Hollow Knight Mafia [game over]

[Firebringer]

they aren't even that similar
get an eye exam

[redFF]

or i need to learn to read

[furtiveglance]

eye exam must be a really hard eye test

[Black]

Why? It's pretty early in the game I don't see what you think is wrong with it. Keep in mind it's pretty early in the game so I imagine it's pretty easy to want to be cooperative with other people for their wagons just to help progress the game.

The original flip-flop from FB to the person FB thought was scummy caught me off guard. MT explained herself in 309 and I didn't feel my read was strong enough to keep pursuing at the time.

It's fine if it's like your first game on the site but you're going to have to do better than this tho ig you did say you don't even substantial reads. "They're not constantly posting analysis/content, they're voting randomly, or they target is not providing (substantial) explanations" is fine now since I imagine we don't have much to go off of but it's not gong to cut it later.

I really think the biggest reason why I'm struggling to find you as town currently is I think due to the quality and explanation of your own reads. Again I don't particularly think you've done anything wolf indicative just nothing that super screams town indicative. It's also not really easy this early on so like idunno just keep playin ur game I'm sure I'll figure it out

I understand this perspective. I never said my reads were any good. I've openly questioned my own reads even. None of them have been strong enough to do anything with. I mostly want to keep discussion going and analyze things as they go since I don't have much history to work with

[Black]

Taly feels really town

i feel the best about TRing Ali, Gimli & Taly

i think klick vpb & redff are all fine places to vote.

id tr firebringer but i dont want him to get mad at me.

the entirety of Ari's scumhunting everyone

VOTE: sircakes

OMGUS? I kind of agree with the Cake. Your ISO is full of fluff posts and wagon votes with no substance. Your defense was you've wanted to play less serious Mafia, but will that help the town?

I like red's analysis of the game so far. This is the first I've seen "serious red" and it's enough so to move on for now

VOTE: Aristeia

[petapan]

I understand this perspective. I never said my reads were any good. I've openly questioned my own reads even. None of them have been strong enough to do anything with. I mostly want to keep discussion going and analyze things as they go since I don't have much history to work with

don't worry about your reads being 'good' if you're town, it's more about making your overall thought process visible to others so they can understand where you're coming from, i think that's what alisae was getting it

[Aristeia]

Taly feels really town

i feel the best about TRing Ali, Gimli & Taly

i think klick vpb & redff are all fine places to vote.

id tr firebringer but i dont want him to get mad at me.

the entirety of Ari's scumhunting everyone

VOTE: sircakes

OMGUS? I kind of agree with the Cake. Your ISO is full of fluff posts and wagon votes with no substance. Your defense was you've wanted to play less serious Mafia, but will that help the town?

I like red's analysis of the game so far. This is the first I've seen "serious red" and it's enough so to move on for now

VOTE: Aristeia

are you voting me because you think I am not helpful or voting me because you think I am mafia?

[Mistyx]

hi i brain empty'd out catching up but i probably won't post much today sorry

[Mistyx]

also two people in my blind spot - Lycan and Mistyxx
who are you?

who are you?

[Mistyx]

saving my place at top of page 24

think lycan is town for reasons I’ll think are bad if i explain

[furtiveglance]

What if CSF, Klick and petapan are all scum

[Black]

Taly feels really town

i feel the best about TRing Ali, Gimli & Taly

i think klick vpb & redff are all fine places to vote.

id tr firebringer but i dont want him to get mad at me.

the entirety of Ari's scumhunting everyone

VOTE: sircakes

OMGUS? I kind of agree with the Cake. Your ISO is full of fluff posts and wagon votes with no substance. Your defense was you've wanted to play less serious Mafia, but will that help the town?

I like red's analysis of the game so far. This is the first I've seen "serious red" and it's enough so to move on for now

VOTE: Aristeia

are you voting me because you think I am not helpful or voting me because you think I am mafia?

I think you're scummy

[Aristeia]

because?

[furtiveglance]

I think Aristeia is town, and Cakez' characterisation is unfair as it excludes the early push on FireKinger

[petapan]

What if CSF, Klick and petapan are all scum

then you've already lost

is this a serious thought you had in your head or an idle musing

[petapan]

I don't like VPB votes.
But i don't feel like pushing against it and arguing VPB is town
Cause I don't have any town arguments for VPB.

What a conundrum i am in.

Gamestate counts.

For instance, I can't see why Klick is being given a free ride and VP hounded when Klick's posts are a lot worse to me

why are klick's posts "worse" to you? i don't think what they've posted is remotely comparable, but then your whole reason for townreading vpb is because his case on the gimmick alt is shit

[furtiveglance]

What if CSF, Klick and petapan are all scum

then you've already lost

is this a serious thought you had in your head or an idle musing

Serious

Do you think you're towny rn?

[furtiveglance]

I don't like VPB votes.
But i don't feel like pushing against it and arguing VPB is town
Cause I don't have any town arguments for VPB.

What a conundrum i am in.

Gamestate counts.

For instance, I can't see why Klick is being given a free ride and VP hounded when Klick's posts are a lot worse to me

why are klick's posts "worse" to you? i don't think what they've posted is remotely comparable, but then your whole reason for townreading vpb is because his case on the gimmick alt is shit

Yeah

Town are more likely to make a *bad* case

Scum are more likely to skate and give no strong reads

[Mistyx]

i have good vibes from klick but i think i also just naturally get good vibes from klick

idk i don't think i have anything useful to say today so im just gonna leave until my brain starts working again

[Cat Scratch Fever]

need your thought processes behind how u reached these conclusions. It’d be helpful if you could paint the picture so it’s super clear for me

this post feels alisae attempting to look town by not providing their own content, but instead pushing furtive to deliver content, in a way that feels perfomative

This is a weird read. Do you expect Alisae to be providing content in that post in particular? They're asking furtive for reads to better understand him (396).

And it'd only be performative if Alisae hasn't been explaining their reads, but I feel like they have been

Alisae explain thought process behind thought process being helpful?^

Transparency is helpful when it comes to reading people are at least trying to see eye to eye with them. I don't really see any reason why you can't push yourself to try to elaborate on why you have the reads that you do in thread. I've been trying to push myself to do that at least. Even if it's like obv you should still try to elaborate on why you see that in that light and maybe try pointing to posts that make you feel that way. As a wolf something I like to do a lot is not explain obv reads, as a wolf it's really easy to put the obv read (especially obvtownies) in the obv spot w/o much reasoning behind it.

Best way to show towniness is to post literally every single thought you have into the gamethread even if it's a bad one.

again, giving advice, pushing for more information, and attempting to look like they want everyone to post in a pro-town way, it just feels overly performative to me

They were asked to explain their thought process. It doesn't really feel like you're considering motive here

[Mistyx]

oh yeah my hot take is that furtive's handling of taly might be scummy but im nowhere near confident on that just all the "if you dont see taly is obvtown you're openwolfing" felt overblown

[petapan]

i don't believe this is at all genuine from baltar, he's focusing on something simplistic to push on that doesn't have any actual connection to whether the person is scum

You're literally trying to make the argument against me that I'm making to Asri...reads that disconnected from substance and true belief.

You fucking with me here?

"you too" is not a convincing defense, nor is what i'm saying remotely similar to you

your argument is that asri refusing to explain their reads makes them scum who is faking opinions

i don't think this is a remotely correct tell and in the case of a clear gimmick alt is likely intentionally stylistic. i don't find it super endearing but someone refusing to explain their reads in the early game certainly isn't a scumtell and you've played enough to know that

this doesn't particularly make asri town, however your case looks like one scum would make


your two pushes so far are downright horrendous in their reasoning, borderline nonsensical, and look significantly more like scum stretching to make irrelevant things look scummy because you can't make a real case

[petapan]

What if CSF, Klick and petapan are all scum

then you've already lost

is this a serious thought you had in your head or an idle musing

Serious

Do you think you're towny rn?

i'm not out of scum range but i'm rarely going to be, however i'm sure whatever reason you have for scumreading me is dumb as fuck

[furtiveglance]

Well, maybe that post is pro-town^

CSF is a hard one to read

[Cat Scratch Fever]

What if CSF, Klick and petapan are all scum

I'd probably feel really bad for petapan lol