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[Firebringer]

if i had the power to move 4 votes onto someone.
i would have to be scum to get that done!

if four people just mindlessly sheeped me i would think im a scum puppet here too.

Penguin knows he is safe from me. HE CAN SEE MY LACK SWAY WITH THE THREAD.

[PenguinPower]

i am a mastermind. you have fallen into my trap

time for phase 7 to begin.

[Firebringer]

I hope phase 7 involves converting me to the scum team

[PenguinPower]

I hope phase 7 involves converting me to the scum team

[redFF]

i think the klick case was solid enough and it has interesting associatives with gryff, but we're back to shitposting i see

[redFF]

[PenguinPower]

i think the klick case was solid enough and it has interesting associatives with gryff, but we're back to shitposting i see

where were you when I was actually pushing for klick for those reasons...ya know...for the majority of this game?

[redFF]

i think the klick case was solid enough and it has interesting associatives with gryff, but we're back to shitposting i see

where were you when I was actually pushing for klick for those reasons...ya know...for the majority of this game?

doing something else i guess, there's no reason we can't work together on this now

[Kowahbunga]

I'm in a pickle here. I feel like town are very disjointed currently. And this day is losing steam and I don't know how much else will be learned from it until a lim.

So my initial thought is to leave my desired lim as no one seems interested in Shirou. I see no point in pushing a new wagon, so that leaves me with the current bunch:

Klick (3): redFF, Herta, geraintm
PenguinPower (2) Firebringer, GamerGryff
geraintm (2): Klick, PenguinPower

Are the three wagons with 2 or more votes. Of everyone, Red is the only person who currently gets a solid town read from me. It makes sense to join who he is voting for. Problem with that is, I like Klick as a town lean. Our convo earlier felt nice, so I don't feel comfortable joining that wagon.

What about Penguin? I don't have a read on them or Fire as of this moment, but I've got a slight scum lean on Gryff. So that causes me to pause before voting here.

Geraintm's wagon has a town lean of mine in Klick, and a null in Penguin. So this feels like the party I want to join.

VOTE: geraintm

[Herta]

So my initial thought is to leave my desired lim as no one seems interested in Shirou.

That's not correct. Fire says to wait a day on Shirou.

[Kowahbunga]

So my initial thought is to leave my desired lim as no one seems interested in Shirou.

That's not correct. Fire says to wait a day on Shirou.

Shirou is town yall.
I would explain but i think ill save my explanation for day 3.

I don't understand how what I said isn't correct?

[Herta]

So my initial thought is to leave my desired lim as no one seems interested in Shirou.

That's not correct. Fire says to wait a day on Shirou.

Shirou is town yall.
I would explain but i think ill save my explanation for day 3.

I don't understand how what I said isn't correct?

You said no one is interested in Shirou. That's a misstatement.

[Kowahbunga]

I'm missing something here, because I'm saying no one is interested in voting Shirou. I was the only one voting Shirou, and you say that's not correct, that fire wants to wait a day on Shirou, but the only thing I see about Fire mentioning Shirou is stating "Shiroe is town" so tell me who is interested in a Shirou lim.

[Firebringer]

Yeah Shirou is town.
I will talk about it more tomorrow.
I think lot of people claimed scumread of shirou like 3-4 pages ago.

[geraintm]

hat townies when someone says they are 99% sure someone else is town doesn't respect that

"RESPECT IT"

WAMFGIWAIGAWGIM

I DON'T NEED TO RESPECT IT DUDE U GOTTA EXPLAIN THAT SUPER STRONG TOWN READ

nope.
If Shirou is off the table because Firebringer says they are town and will explain in a few days, then you have to do the same with me.
I cannot understand at all how townies can look at a person going "I am clearing a player with 99% certainty" and want to vote them out. you instead should go "well, that person must be pretty sure about themselves, i wonder what they are going to say tomorrow"

you certainly don't try and push that slot to compromise it, especialy when that player was so confident in their position they begged to be pushed because they knew it would just expose the pushers even more.

nahh

on second thought he made the effort to do that super funny video but isn't really pushing us back here

VOTE: herta~

i'm more unsure of herta being the scum but for now i'll sit here for a bit more

are people just not paying me any attention? how can you vote here? if you think i am scum you vote me first over herta.

The thing that stood out to me the most was the claim of buddying on D1. I thought about it from my point of view, being buddies with people on D1 seems like a survival tactic. It was just that tiny thing that made me think "oh, ya know, that seems like the opposite thing town would do on D1"

The only reason I haven't voted you is because I haven't done my own research to see if that's even true. I don't recall seeing you deny it.

who si this aimed at?

I'm in a pickle here. I feel like town are very disjointed currently. And this day is losing steam and I don't know how much else will be learned from it until a lim.

So my initial thought is to leave my desired lim as no one seems interested in Shirou. I see no point in pushing a new wagon, so that leaves me with the current bunch:

Klick (3): redFF, Herta, geraintm
PenguinPower (2) Firebringer, GamerGryff
geraintm (2): Klick, PenguinPower

Are the three wagons with 2 or more votes. Of everyone, Red is the only person who currently gets a solid town read from me. It makes sense to join who he is voting for. Problem with that is, I like Klick as a town lean. Our convo earlier felt nice, so I don't feel comfortable joining that wagon.

What about Penguin? I don't have a read on them or Fire as of this moment, but I've got a slight scum lean on Gryff. So that causes me to pause before voting here.

Geraintm's wagon has a town lean of mine in Klick, and a null in Penguin. So this feels like the party I want to join.

VOTE: geraintm

so you don't think i am scum, you lean Gryff as scum, but you are voting me because you like the people who are currently voting me?

[Klick]

To make it explicit,

geraintm is claiming some sort of almost-clear PR result on Herta

I agree with geraintm that geraintm should go before Herta

[Lazy Shirou]

geraintm, i'll say a single thing:

scum are multitasking in this setup according to enchant opening post.

the setup so far to me seems to involve PRs being loud, and i doubt that scum doesn't have a loud role on it

the multitasking part sounds to me like as if it's exactly made so that scum can nightkill and use their loud PR at the same time

if for any reason your "town read" on Herta is somewhat related to the above, i want you to drop it right now, but otherwise, fine, although i'm pretty interested on how you'll explain that bc i think depending on your answer it sounds like a scumclaim from your ISO in D1

[Lazy Shirou]

UNVOTE:

for now

[Lazy Shirou]

i've a lot of stuff to say about this setup as far as i understand it right now

i'm just not sure it's the right day for it but also don't know if i'm alive tomorrow although i should be given i'm suspected and not really doing much

[Lazy Shirou]

this may be one of the most fun normal setups i've played depending on the roles in massclaim

i like the seemingly theme of it

[geraintm]

@klick - you have zero interest in trying to eliminate Firebringer?

if you do get to flip me and then i turn green, what is your response, what is your plan then exactly?

as far as i can see, your progression on me goes from

#282 where you suggest Vig should shoot me (your post 17)

to #946 where i think you say i am scum because no reason (that was your post 94 - you had gone about 65 posts without mentioning me)

#1000 you respond to my post aimed at penguin
#1003 - you think i am scum

#1111 - you have me as scum in a small pool

but i still never see why you think i am scum

i have since done nothing but say the reads on me are bollocks and my opinion on another player. you still havent given me a reason why i am scum besides gut feeling
post #1129

and on the basis of a gut feeling you are going to eliminate my slot - when you acknowledge the claim i am making about herta?

i want you to go back and properly explain your progression on me.
i dont want you to come up with an explanation based on the current game state, i want you to go back and explain the guy feeling and so on which caused you to place me in the small scum pile you made

because i cannot see how a townie gets to where you are now.

[Lazy Shirou]

also Fire, i think i can be wrong on PP bc i've only seen one or two scum games of his some time ago (a few more town games) but i just feel like PP is actually kinda engaged in solving the game in a way i don't feel much when he's scum

but it's kinda weak i guess maybe i could put him in nulltown, i just better about him compared to klick and wanted to highlight that

i don't think i'm interested on voting PP at all today and i would say prob even tomorrow, i think a lot other slots can be scum here more often than it just being PP

hm, i can be wrong tho, i'm not a PP expert

[Lazy Shirou]

if PP had unvoted when there was a bigger klick wagon i would even say PP is confidently town but i think he unvoted before people wagoned klick so uh, i think it's +town but sometimes i wonder if i know how to read PP at all

[Lazy Shirou]

ofc i'm not town reading him unvoting anymore now that i said it

[Lazy Shirou]

i just feel really puzzled why the two slots i feel best about [pp/andante] and to a lesser degree Klick are being pushed by so many people though...am i wrong, u guys are wrong, or is it mostly scum?

idk