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Post Post #725 (ISO) » Mon Feb 06, 2023 4:18 am

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In post 724, Enchant wrote:
In post 722, Kokichi Oma wrote:
In post 720, Enchant wrote: Or used for other purpose.
Can you explain? Cause I don't think it's bad as of right now
I have reason. I am not going to really fight for it though.
Okay, who do you think is most likely scum today?
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Post Post #726 (ISO) » Mon Feb 06, 2023 4:20 am

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Kitty.
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Post Post #727 (ISO) » Mon Feb 06, 2023 4:24 am

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Interesting! You think they fake claimed and they're actually just mafia with the kill?

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Post Post #728 (ISO) » Mon Feb 06, 2023 4:28 am

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In post 727, Kokichi Oma wrote: Interesting! You think they fake claimed and they're actually just mafia with the kill?

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There's nothing preventing mafia from being reverse killer and thus having two kills.
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Post Post #729 (ISO) » Mon Feb 06, 2023 4:31 am

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I never thought about that, since all the roles are completely random
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Post Post #730 (ISO) » Mon Feb 06, 2023 4:31 am

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  • Rain
    - Each player who uses a targeted action tonight will be announced tomorrow.
  • Hail
    - All targeted actions passively fail tonight, and any limited abilities prevented this way will be refunded a shot if used.
  • Fog
    - All targeted actions will be randomized tonight.
  • Snow
    - Each player who is targeted by an action tonight will be announced tomorrow.

I think we should use Rain now.
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Post Post #731 (ISO) » Mon Feb 06, 2023 4:34 am

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Wait actually. We have Kitty chained i guess.

So maybe Hail again is not bad as well.
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Post Post #732 (ISO) » Mon Feb 06, 2023 5:35 am

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In post 690, Fuyuhiko Kuzuryu wrote: Are you shitting me? I think a better question is why did those two think it was a good idea to drop such low-quality bait into the thread?
My question is why they didn't go even lower-quality and say they had a guilty on Herta?
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Post Post #733 (ISO) » Mon Feb 06, 2023 6:02 am

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We don't have Dragoon as the Any faction.

I genuinely don't think we have Doom Seekers as the Groupscum faction, judging from flavour (this faction has flavour-related effects).

We'll probably find out if we have Daylight Cult today; they get a day faction kill on even days (they can use it at night, and while it can't be blocked by things that happen simultaneously, it can be blocked by existing effects, so hail would block it. If they want a kill they need to do it during the day).

Because it was mentioned that we might have multiple groupscum hunting each other, it is worth noting that most Compleationists don't know they are scum (only one starts the game as knowing they are scum, but they know who their team is and needs to "recruit" them to wake them up). I'm not convinced we're in this setup but don't want to rule it out; we might be in a situation with 1 informed scum and a solo 3P (benign or otherwise).

I thought it was possible TL was unrecruited Conspirator, but TL would have flipped without alignment if that were the case. Conspirators was my #1 pick before, but I am less convinced now.
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Post Post #734 (ISO) » Mon Feb 06, 2023 8:22 am

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In post 698, Fuyuhiko Kuzuryu wrote: They could be aligned? I don’t think it was *that* coordinated though.
Maybe not aligned but in a hood together, but yes, I think this is a possibility too. Though I'm not sure why they move *so much* in lockstep, I guess that probably actually doesn't prove much except that they were online at a similar time. Even if you're both planning a reaction test you don't exactly need to coordinate it down to the minute.

But yeah overall I think that "??wtf is this obvious bait??" is the right way to think about it.
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Post Post #735 (ISO) » Mon Feb 06, 2023 9:36 am

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In post 733, Marashu wrote: We don't have Dragoon as the Any faction.

I genuinely don't think we have Doom Seekers as the Groupscum faction, judging from flavour (this faction has flavour-related effects).

We'll probably find out if we have Daylight Cult today; they get a day faction kill on even days (they can use it at night, and while it can't be blocked by things that happen simultaneously, it can be blocked by existing effects, so hail would block it. If they want a kill they need to do it during the day).

Because it was mentioned that we might have multiple groupscum hunting each other, it is worth noting that most Compleationists don't know they are scum (only one starts the game as knowing they are scum, but they know who their team is and needs to "recruit" them to wake them up). I'm not convinced we're in this setup but don't want to rule it out; we might be in a situation with 1 informed scum and a solo 3P (benign or otherwise).

I thought it was possible TL was unrecruited Conspirator, but TL would have flipped without alignment if that were the case. Conspirators was my #1 pick before, but I am less convinced now.
I have 0 clue what some of these are. I'm assuming no day kills or we would have had one yesterday?
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Post Post #736 (ISO) » Mon Feb 06, 2023 10:13 am

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In post 735, Kokichi Oma wrote:
In post 733, Marashu wrote: We don't have Dragoon as the Any faction.

I genuinely don't think we have Doom Seekers as the Groupscum faction, judging from flavour (this faction has flavour-related effects).

We'll probably find out if we have Daylight Cult today; they get a day faction kill on even days (they can use it at night, and while it can't be blocked by things that happen simultaneously, it can be blocked by existing effects, so hail would block it. If they want a kill they need to do it during the day).

Because it was mentioned that we might have multiple groupscum hunting each other, it is worth noting that most Compleationists don't know they are scum (only one starts the game as knowing they are scum, but they know who their team is and needs to "recruit" them to wake them up). I'm not convinced we're in this setup but don't want to rule it out; we might be in a situation with 1 informed scum and a solo 3P (benign or otherwise).

I thought it was possible TL was unrecruited Conspirator, but TL would have flipped without alignment if that were the case. Conspirators was my #1 pick before, but I am less convinced now.
I have 0 clue what some of these are. I'm assuming no day kills or we would have had one yesterday?
Dragoon - 3rd party who needs to be in final 3, and steals win from other factions
Doom Seeker - group scum who get stronger by targeting other players.
Daylight Cult - can only attack on even numbered day/nights (so no daykill D1), and can recruit on day 3 and every 4 days after that.
Compleationists - kind of confusing, but only one is "awake" and the rest are sleeper agents. The awake one can recruit the sleepers at night by targeting them, and if ever it's only sleepers alive, one sleeper will wake up at random.
Conspirators - passive godfathers. They have 1 (at this game size) who isn't in the scum PT (who loses if not recruited and their partners die). Their partners have a list of players who could be the scum who is not in the group PT, but for every potential member, there's someone else on the list who is not aligned to them. They can pull someone from the list into their PT, but the risk is that if they pull the person who is not on their team, that person then has full access to the scum PT and could rat them out. People are told if they are on "the list".
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Post Post #737 (ISO) » Mon Feb 06, 2023 10:47 am

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Aisa, did you ever get a chance to look at anyone else? Where are you at right now?
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