Hollow Knight Mafia [game over]

[Gimli]

alisae? why?

[VP Baltar]

Black might be good vibes too. Feel like I'm generally agreeing with them, but I wanted to iso there

[VP Baltar]

alisae? why?

There were a couple opportunistic votes in there I didn't like. One was on me, and the other iirc was jumping on lycan when Klick outted the hood. Part of me gets the instinct to look at the hood, but it's also level zero to just auto assume scum has to be there.

[furtiveglance]

Baltar, explain Klick townread.

[VP Baltar]

Baltar, explain Klick townread.

Outing the hood like that out of paranoia is town 99/100 times. Klick stan

[furtiveglance]

I think he just did it to distract people from scumreading him

[VP Baltar]

I think he just did it to distract people from scumreading him

Unfortunately, I fell for that fallacy with Nero in a game when I was in a hood with him. He was just town tho. The whole hood was town iirc, and it was a huge shitshow distraction.

[Black]

I think he just did it to distract people from scumreading him

I don't think so. There wasn't much pressure on Klick at all when he claimed. Two votes from the MT situation but that was pretty much it

[Gimli]

Had to get out of treadmill just to say this re: hoods

They are not to be hidden from the main thread, unless very specific circumstances. Outing it isnt towny but it's protown. The number of wolves and townies in the hood is not to be speculated. Yes they can all be town. Yes they can all be scum and there's nothing bastard about an all scum hood.

[VP Baltar]

Datisi bastard mod. You heard it here first kids.

[Black]

Yes they can all be scum and there's nothing bastard about an all scum hood.

Really? Seems kinda bastard if you ask me. What's the point of an all scum hood?

[Firebringer]

My brothers in christ:
Firebringer

u put me in the wrong category bro

[VP Baltar]

My brothers in christ:
Firebringer

u put me in the wrong category bro

Ur 2 cute 2 b bad

[Gimli]

Yes they can all be scum and there's nothing bastard about an all scum hood.

Really? Seems kinda bastard if you ask me. What's the point of an all scum hood?

The wine in front of me

[Mistyx]

hi i forgot how busy today was gonna be for me

i'm around now

[Mistyx]

Is this basically why you think scum are pushing Lycanfire/Cakez?

i just think theyre the easiest people to push rn

though ig that makes ari probably town if thats true

mm

Can you give independent reads on these players?

will you be upset if the answer is "no"

[Mistyx]

cakez voting me feels like town

really just overall genuine seeming read progression in that entire stretch of posts

[Mistyx]

the way csf continued the interaction w/ me after i already left also makes me think town

id probably vote redff rn but can't put too many words to it? other than the cakez/lycan stuff pinging me and his cakez push just feels kind of like an approach that scum would take here

[furtiveglance]

I think he just did it to distract people from scumreading him

Unfortunately, I fell for that fallacy with Nero in a game when I was in a hood with him. He was just town tho. The whole hood was town iirc, and it was a huge shitshow distraction.

That's a different game. Outting a hood is not town 99% of the time, because what do you lose from outting it as Mafia? Nothing.

I think he just did it to distract people from scumreading him

I don't think so. There wasn't much pressure on Klick at all when he claimed. Two votes from the MT situation but that was pretty much it

It's all relative. Two votes was quite a lot at the time

[furtiveglance]

the way csf continued the interaction w/ me after i already left also makes me think town

id probably vote redff rn but can't put too many words to it? other than the cakez/lycan stuff pinging me and his cakez push just feels kind of like an approach that scum would take here

I also suspect redFF

[Aristeia]

Aristeia - forgive me if you've mentioned it, but do you have any scum reads other than Cakez and can you give me the tl;dr of them?

Baltar -

A lot of the issues I have with his play is that I don't think he's really interacting to sort people - it feels like he's just arguing with people to win arguments?

He's a journalist by trade so one of the things he does fairly well is to "frame" the issue in a way that's favorable to him for example:

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I don't really think these posts are helping him sort people - it's just like he decided he was the referee of the argument and ruled that he was being extremely reasonable and like how could anyone disagree with him?

A lot of the questions he's asked are kind of surface level and I don't see how they really help him understand more about a player's alignment or thought process, it feels like interacting to interact rather than genuine curiosity/sorting.

Lastly his treatment of Klick as his lord and savior feels really weird and ??? to me like I don't really understand his treatment of Klick as his top townread and the rock that he leans on at all because like

1) why is klick his top townread? These are the only posts I found in his iso that really talk about the Klick TR and the only content is "because he outted the PT first", which imo isn't even like a great reason but the thing I don't like is how he first promises a towncase to Furtive telling him to back off then when Furtive asks for that towncase, he just handwaves and repeats the PT outting reason again. It feels like making a promise to get someone to fuck off and not really keeping it because you never really had a towncase or compelling reasons outside of "becuase he outted the hood" in the first place.

Klick is plus town for hood paranoia disclosure. Scum would be unlikely to do that this early in the game.

Can I get some votes here

VOTE: Klick

Nah. I can probably towncase Klick later if that's helpful for you, but like I said, I just think it's very unlikely they out the hood if scum. Willing to stand by that unless there is a compelling reason later not to.

Baltar, explain Klick townread.

Outing the hood like that out of paranoia is town 99/100 times. Klick stan

MistyX:


Reviewing her iso again she has pretty good moments here and there - I think the baltar callout was good but she didn't really go anywhere with it and I don't really understand her belief that I'm "struggling to interact with the game" or w/e.

I think she's fairly polarized in playstyle - she's much better at generating content as town than when she's scum. As the game goes on longer I think she'll contribute pretty organically and fluidly if she's town and be readable just off content and thread presence.

it would be funny if she was talking about herself when she said "wanna go here rn i think decent odds this is scum struggling to make serious content"

[Aristeia]

cakez voting me feels like town

really just overall genuine seeming read progression in that entire stretch of posts

can you help put some details to this read.

which cakes post feel very townie to you and why are they not likely to come from him as mafia?

[VP Baltar]

That's a different game. Outting a hood is not town 99% of the time, because what do you lose from outting it as Mafia? Nothing.

You lose the ability to sway people in a hood and potentially gain useful information.

[petapan]

I think lycan didn't do anything scummy and it's a LHF slot, so I don't like that you're voting there cause it feels like you're testing waters. I know you're probably just being town and trying to go to a place that feels good but since you just voted CSF this gave me pause

also lycan is a player we want to not eliminate on d1 because he is strong

these two ideas don't really go together

[furtiveglance]

That's a different game. Outting a hood is not town 99% of the time, because what do you lose from outting it as Mafia? Nothing.

You lose the ability to sway people in a hood and potentially gain useful information.

No you don't. You still have a secret chat