Mini Normal 2289 - Postgame

[Alianna]

1.13

Votecount 1.13

Cephrir (E-2): PenguinPower, Frogsterking, Alchemist21, Not_Mafia, furtiveglance
Dionysus (2): Brickwalll, Cat Scratch Fever
T3 (2): Dionysus, Eiralox
Enchant (2): Save The Dragons, Cephrir
Brickwalll (1): Enchant

Not Voting (1): T3

With 13 players alive, it takes 7 votes to secure an execution.

The day deadline is in (expired on 2023-02-14 13:44:18).

[Not_Mafia]

UNVOTE:

[Eiralox]

Wise.

[Frogsterking]

Wise.

...you aren't being pinged by NM's activity in the thread?

What do you expect scum!NM to be doing over the last couple pages in a scum!Cephrir, scum!NM world?

I'm feeling comfortable that I'm 3/3 right now. Of course I can be wrong but it's been looking promising.

[Eiralox]

There are 6 days 13 hours left of Mini Normal 2289. I'll get pinged when I get pinged thank you very much. Preferably when Dionysus smells a rat.

[Cat Scratch Fever]

What do you expect scum!NM to be doing over the last couple pages in a scum!Cephrir, scum!NM world?

You think the vote / unvote is indicative of SvS?

[Enchant]

Wise.

You know that NM doing it just to hammer?

[Frogsterking]

What do you expect scum!NM to be doing over the last couple pages in a scum!Cephrir, scum!NM world?

You think the vote / unvote is indicative of SvS?

Luca Blight tell...NM not only has a scum read, he

votes

it and provides a

reason

for voting it. That's...not typical NM Town behavior AFAIK. Not to mention NM displaying slightly more WiM toward helping his team when rolling scum than he does as Town (according to Koba), a vibe of helpless futility as NM impotently shuffles his vote onto and off of Cephrir, NM seeming strangely serious and non-jokey here, yeah my belief is that 2 scum are Cephrir and NM.

Do you think Cephrir and NM are aligned?

I typed up a response to your question about Dionysus but I copy pasted over it on accident. Do you want me to rewrite it?

Wise.

You know that NM doing it just to hammer?

You don't agree with my theory on NM?

[Enchant]

Wise.

...you aren't being pinged by NM's activity in the thread?

What do you expect scum!NM to be doing over the last couple pages in a scum!Cephrir, scum!NM world?

I'm feeling comfortable that I'm 3/3 right now. Of course I can be wrong but it's been looking promising.

Probably NM does same thing.

[Frogsterking]

Wise.

...you aren't being pinged by NM's activity in the thread?

What do you expect scum!NM to be doing over the last couple pages in a scum!Cephrir, scum!NM world?

I'm feeling comfortable that I'm 3/3 right now. Of course I can be wrong but it's been looking promising.

Probably NM does same thing.

You mean same thing that he just did in the thread?

[Enchant]

Yes.

[Cat Scratch Fever]

NM not only has a scum read, he votes it and provides a reason for voting it. That's...not typical NM Town behavior AFAIK.

Proactive voting is town indicative for him, providing a reason is scum indicative. Where does that get me...

[Cat Scratch Fever]

Dionysus: haven't seen you around lately bud what timezone are you in?

I've been thinking about this. Dionysus, why didn't you react to this post?

[Cat Scratch Fever]

Do you think Cephrir and NM are aligned?

No, I think the most likely explanation for what happened is NM voted Ceph but didn't realize the wagon was so close to hammer territory and then unvoted. If they're S/S, why does he vote only to unvote?

[Alchemist21]

I feel enchant actually plays when theyre town and trolls when they're scum

Why does that sound familiar? I think I have a completed game with someone may have said it then. Let me see if I can find it.

It used to be true, but I don't really think that's true anymore.

I can’t find the game right now anyway so I may be confusing then with Elements or someone else. Still at work and might look again when I’m at home.

Came home and looked again. I don’t have any past games with Enchant.

[Cat Scratch Fever]

I typed up a response to your question about Dionysus but I copy pasted over it on accident. Do you want me to rewrite it?

Yeah probably. I took another look at his past Newbie (closer this time ) and don't see many similarities to the other game.

[Alchemist21]

Does NM usually get prodded as one alignment more than the other?

[Enchant]

He always gets prodded

[Cephrir]

I truly don't understand how my posts generated zero enchant votes nor even a response from enchant

Am I invisible

[Alchemist21]

He always gets prodded

Figures.

[Frogsterking]

Do you think Cephrir and NM are aligned?

No, I think the most likely explanation for what happened is NM voted Ceph but didn't realize the wagon was so close to hammer territory and then unvoted. If they're S/S, why does he vote only to unvote?

Because he wants to do something and isn't sure what so he very weakly distances from Cephrir.

How do you think I'm doing this game as far as reads and/or toxicity go?

I typed up a response to your question about Dionysus but I copy pasted over it on accident. Do you want me to rewrite it?

Yeah probably. I took another look at his past Newbie (closer this time ) and don't see many similarities to the other game.

Okay if you insist

I don't think you're going to like my process though...

I opened Dionysus 2019 game he linked and skimmed his ISO until my eyes suddenly locked on a single post. I saw words describing his read on Frederick and they formed a picture of Dionysus for me. The post had words like "I pointed suspicion at Campbell", "very confident", "u-turn", "erratic" and I instantly felt like I knew Dionysus. I felt like Dionysus was Town pushing Town!Frededick in that game AND I felt intuitively that Dionysus is Town again in this game. I impulsively closed the 2019 game, tabbed back into this one, and asked him if either of my theories are correct. Dionysus replied "yes to both" and right then I decided to Town lock him. If Dionysus is scum then it was the easiest win of his life.

I haven't reassessed and don't really plan to for long time, but I did ponder about how it would be funny if that same situation played out with scum!Dionysus and they somehow found a way to answer that suspiciously resulting in a scum read instead

NM not only has a scum read, he votes it and provides a reason for voting it. That's...not typical NM Town behavior AFAIK.

Proactive voting is town indicative for him, providing a reason is scum indicative. Where does that get me...

Scum?

[Cephrir]

Someone tell me what part is not convincing

[Cephrir]

Someone who isn't frogsterking obviously

[Alchemist21]

I truly don't understand how my posts generated zero enchant votes nor even a response from enchant

Am I invisible

I was going to ask why you voted Enchant even though you had games disproving the theory, but after looking at the right-to-wrong ratio figured you were basing it on it being more-likely-than-not rather than a 100% always happens thing.

In that one game where he was Town and you said it took a while for Enchant to start obvTowning, about how long exactly did that take?

[Cat Scratch Fever]

you're right I don't like your process lol

Because he wants to do something and isn't sure what so he very weakly distances from Cephrir.

How do you think I'm doing this game as far as reads and/or toxicity go?

NM isn't bad at the game, weakly distancing is possible but not sure it's probable. Readswise, neither slot has been particularly towny though, I'll give you that

Toxicity wise, fine I think?