Mini 2292: Anything uPick - Game Over!

[Wavelength]

If we can never be in a 3:2:! world, killing Pink Ball is the only correct play here.

Because of the Elo mechanics from LLD and Stephen both working to day, the only possible worlds are 4:2 and 4:1:1

If Ali's solve it right, then we killed scum.
If Pink Ball is town, then we are back to 4:2 tomorrow, with confirmed town Kokichi.

If Pink Ball is 3rd party, then we are at 4:2 tomorrow, with 1 confirmed scum in Kokichi/Penguin Power and 1 confirmed scum in the rest of the Player list.

This is the only kill, that never puts us into a worse position even if we are wrong.

[Wavelength]

VOTE: pink ball

This is the way.

[Pink Ball]

Wave, being on 4:2 tomorrow vs being on 4:2 today is never a better option and you insisting on getting me killed today started as a "huh interesting" and it's turning into "this is the scum that would push for the obvious scum agenda" quickly.

Kokichi conftown vs whoever the scumteam decides to kill tonight? Tomorrow you'll have to solve between LLD and SAS just like today? You're just giving the scumteam the alternative of having one more nightkill to control the game.

[Wavelength]

Ali, I wanted to kill pink ball yesterday, and you talked me out of it.

This is the kill for today.

I was not sure before the confirmation that we are not in 3:2:1, but now I am.

[Pink Ball]

Whatever you're a broken record, if this is scum!you congratulations for derailing the mechanically right call into a obvious scum agenda driven elimination.

[Pink Ball]

You want to eliminate the player who can assure that SAS vs LLD is solved without caring who flips

[Wavelength]

Wave, being on 4:2 tomorrow vs being on 4:2 today is never a better option and you insisting on getting me killed today started as a "huh interesting" and it's turning into "this is the scum that would push for the obvious scum agenda" quickly.

Kokichi conftown vs whoever the scumteam decides to kill tonight? Tomorrow you'll have to solve between LLD and SAS just like today? You're just giving the scumteam the alternative of having one more nightkill to control the game.

Having a mechanically confirmed town in melo is not a better option then not having a mechanically confirmed town in Melo? Because we don't currently have one of those.

Like what are you talking about? lol

But also, this lets us resolve your slot, which even if you are town, you have to realize that you are in the PoE. Being in 4:2, with you resolved vs being in 4:2 without you resolved IS better.

And if you are not town, then being in the next day phase without you is also better for the town.

We are in a better position after killing you for all three possible alignments for you.


And the alternative option, is to potentially BET THE GAME on LLD being scum.

[Pink Ball]

I'll even go further with what I thought at the begining of the day: I think your flavorcop is not just a flavorcop, but it's what actually stops actions and you're the one who's messing with the whole redirector thing, you stopped Save the Dragons on N1 and that's why they were the next nightkill, because of the power they had and you knew. Marashu stopped Ali, that checks out, that's it

[Wavelength]

You want to eliminate the player who can assure that SAS vs LLD is solved without caring who flips

Yeah, because if we are wrong inside of SAS vs LLD, and you are scum like ALi thinks, we lose on the spot.

[Wavelength]

I'll even go further with what I thought at the begining of the day: I think your flavorcop is not just a flavorcop, but it's what actually stops actions and you're the one who's messing with the whole redirector thing, you stopped Save the Dragons on N1 and that's why they were the next nightkill, because of the power they had and you knew. Marashu stopped Ali, that checks out, that's it

You are just floundering because you need people to not listen to me.

[Pink Ball]

Wave, being on 4:2 tomorrow vs being on 4:2 today is never a better option and you insisting on getting me killed today started as a "huh interesting" and it's turning into "this is the scum that would push for the obvious scum agenda" quickly.

Kokichi conftown vs whoever the scumteam decides to kill tonight? Tomorrow you'll have to solve between LLD and SAS just like today? You're just giving the scumteam the alternative of having one more nightkill to control the game.

Having a mechanically confirmed town in melo is not a better option then not having a mechanically confirmed town in Melo? Because we don't currently have one of those.

Like what are you talking about? lol

But also, this lets us resolve your slot, which even if you are town, you have to realize that you are in the PoE. Being in 4:2, with you resolved vs being in 4:2 without you resolved IS better.

And if you are not town, then being in the next day phase without you is also better for the town.

We are in a better position after killing you for all three possible alignments for you.


And the alternative option, is to potentially BET THE GAME on LLD being scum.

Kokichi is not mechanically confirmed, he's very much obvtown the same way Ali is very much obvtown, and the scumteam can just kill Ali and we're back to square one.

My slot makes NO SENSE AS SCUM WHATSOEVER and you want to get rid of me, I SHOULDN'T BE on anybody's PoE. I accept being called a 3p but calling me scum??????? So you tried to push that the 3p should be eliminated today, but now that Ali gave a scumread on me it's the perfect segway for you keep pushing me today. You have not reevaluated ANYTHING today, you're obsessed with killing me because if I'm town, you just go to the next day killing Ali and still having to resolve LLD vs SAS, and if I'm 3p, even better 'cause you're afraid of having to deal with me and you just win the game

[Wavelength]

I'll even go further with what I thought at the begining of the day: I think your flavorcop is not just a flavorcop, but it's what actually stops actions and you're the one who's messing with the whole redirector thing, you stopped Save the Dragons on N1 and that's why they were the next nightkill, because of the power they had and you knew. Marashu stopped Ali, that checks out, that's it

This presented world view means that scum has 1 role blocker, and another flavorcop+roleblocker combo, which is a silly stance for you to take here.

But I get it, it is hard to spin a narrative that a townie is scum.

[Pink Ball]

I'll even go further with what I thought at the begining of the day: I think your flavorcop is not just a flavorcop, but it's what actually stops actions and you're the one who's messing with the whole redirector thing, you stopped Save the Dragons on N1 and that's why they were the next nightkill, because of the power they had and you knew. Marashu stopped Ali, that checks out, that's it

You are just floundering because you need people to not listen to me.

No, I need people to realize that you're the last scum.
Ali is town
One of LLD/SAS is town

I'm between Flea and you, and right now Flea hasn't pushed the rethoric you're pushing. You showed your true colors finally.

[Wavelength]

Kokichi is not mechanically confirmed

If you are town, then you must have been the one to stop the night kill by saving Kokichi.

You are the one who was arguing this just a few days ago.

[Wavelength]

Like, your stance on all things are "what ever means I don't die"

[Pink Ball]

You want to eliminate the player who can assure that SAS vs LLD is solved without caring who flips

Yeah, because if we are wrong inside of SAS vs LLD, and you are scum like ALi thinks, we lose on the spot.

NO WE DON'T??? I target either SAS or LLD and it's problem solved

[Pink Ball]

Kokichi is not mechanically confirmed

If you are town, then you must have been the one to stop the night kill by saving Kokichi.

You are the one who was arguing this just a few days ago.

I believe that, yes, but it's not mechanically confirmed 'cause we don't know what really happened. It would be a strong townread just as Ali is a strong townread because of how they dealed with Marashu on D2

[Wavelength]

You want to eliminate the player who can assure that SAS vs LLD is solved without caring who flips

Yeah, because if we are wrong inside of SAS vs LLD,

and you are scum

like ALi thinks, we lose on the spot.

NO WE DON'T??? I target either SAS or LLD and it's problem solved

From my pov, killing LLD is betting the game on the team not being you+Stephen

[Wavelength]

Anyways, I have put my stake in the ground. Its up to Ali/Flea what we do here at this point.

[Pink Ball]

From my pov, killing LLD is betting the game on the team not being you+Stephen

Ooooooooooookay so why I don't just hammer LLD and win

[Pink Ball]

It's either LLD and me and I'm trying to ???
Or it's either SAS and me and I'm trying to ???
Right?

[Pink Ball]

I thought it would be harder to 1v1 you tomorrow but you had to be ambitious and try to derail the wagon today didn't you

[Wavelength]

From my pov, killing LLD is betting the game on the team not being you+Stephen

Ooooooooooookay so why I don't just hammer LLD and win

This is actually a good point. It is not you + Stephen.

So if you are scum, it would have to be you + LLD.

But I am also still of the opinion that there is a solid chance that you are 3rd party.

And this is all still true:

If Ali's solve it right, then we killed scum.
If Pink Ball is town, then we are back to 4:2 tomorrow, with confirmed town Kokichi.

If Pink Ball is 3rd party, then we are at 4:2 tomorrow, with 1 confirmed scum in Kokichi/Penguin Power and 1 confirmed scum in the rest of the Player list.

This is the only kill, that never puts us into a worse position even if we are wrong.

[Pink Ball]

If I'm a third party scum needs to get rid of me and town doesn't

[Pink Ball]

Whatever, you've said your piece, I can only hope that anyone falls for it