Mini Normal 2294: Monkey Business (Endgame)

[Comus]

Lim All Liars

Liars? What liars?

[Comus]

I am Investigator from Town of Salem.

Post will now

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I am actually Veteran baiting but shh

I'll tell no one promise

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Uh no Save the Dragons will not die today Ausuka.

[Comus]

How about we end the day and koki shoots whoever he wants

I guess it probably won't matter but Mafia doctors are pretty common in vig games

Very interesting. So you fully believe this kokichi claim?

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VOTE: std

okay I'm behind it

Behind it? That's where your vote was! Gimli scum. I'm locking it.

[Comus]

I take back what I said about Kawaii. He could maybe be scum. But don't want him today

Save the Dragons had been pretty blatant that he flips vanilla town here. Honestly I don't have energy for this right now. Kawaii seems scummy but whatever. I'mma bounce.

[Comus]

I take back what I said about Kawaii. He could maybe be scum. But don't want him today

Sad, anyone could maybe be scum but I wish I stayed town to you in tone, I'm in survival mode vs. STD, feel if I don't push him I will be the elimination

Yup this probably comes from scum. Survival mode would be explaining the why instead of the how. This feels like too much information, indicating Save the Dargons as villager.

[Comus]

VOTE: std

okay I'm behind it

Remember that Gimli has been 'behind' (read: ahead of) every single push that might go through today. Before replacements, targets all inactives plus enchant and ausuka, but admits pushing ausuka will be too hard. Kokichi has votes? Gimli jumps on that. Klick suddenly susses Enchant and Ausuka? Gimli is sudenly okay with voting out Enchant again. Comus votes Dionysus? Yup, Gimli is happy with that.

Klick wants to kill Save the Dragons? Gimli is 'behind it' while already voting there and having been on Salsabil ever since they left(easy prey. All Gimli's pushes have been easy prey, momentum wise)

But KawaiiKame?

Oh noo...... Gimli might vote there, he says, but ooooh nooo.... never will.

[Comus]

Bro, leave me the fuck alone before I stop being friendly about it

Make some sense with your votes. You don't have to be friendly. Just helpful. Voting Elsa and Kawaii without sharing why isn't.

simply put: Elsa I consider to be generally anti-town in games and therefore a solid vote when there's nothing else around. I absolutely don't believe the cop claim.

kawaii I skimmed ISO for and nothing made me think town while I was reading, so I don't mind limming there if there isn't appetite for Elsa today

Yeah that's a fakeclaim. Elsa admitted as much in tone while claiming. I believed then, that Elsa is a vanilla town. Not sure now. Kawaii hasn't tried to solve, once.

I'm sure I'm right about that. Well.

[Comus]

Look theough Kawaii's ISO.

One topic: Elsa. I've never seen something like it.

[Comus]

Look theough Kawaii's ISO.

One topic: Elsa. I've never seen something like it.

This is disingenuous af and I feel you know it, me talking about Elsa extensively does not invalidate me asking how Elsa's cop claim is fakeclaiming by tone alone? Elsa is not my one topic either, why do you strawman me?

Instead of answering my question you dodge it by saying I talk about Elsa a lot...

Pretty much yeah

[Comus]

Look theough Kawaii's ISO.

One topic: Elsa. I've never seen something like it.

Why you so convinced Elsa's cop claim is a fake claim? Tone? Show evidence of this tone, Elsa is uncc'd cop Idek why she's being pushed as a potential elimination option

Vanilla town at best.

[Comus]

Look theough Kawaii's ISO.

One topic: Elsa. I've never seen something like it.

This is disingenuous af and I feel you know it, me talking about Elsa extensively does not invalidate me asking how Elsa's cop claim is fakeclaiming by tone alone? Elsa is not my one topic either, why do you strawman me?

Instead of answering my question you dodge it by saying I talk about Elsa a lot...

Pretty much yeah

Why you so convinced Elsa's cop claim is a fake claim? Tone? Show evidence of this tone, Elsa is uncc'd cop Idek why she's being pushed as a potential elimination option

Evidence of tone, after much struggle:

[Comus]

Look theough Kawaii's ISO.

One topic: Elsa. I've never seen something like it.

Why you so convinced Elsa's cop claim is a fake claim? Tone? Show evidence of this tone, Elsa is uncc'd cop Idek why she's being pushed as a potential elimination option

Vanilla town at best.

Then at best you need to stop pushing Vanilla Town...

You should be defending yourself or casing Save the Dragons.

Instead, you only hop into the thread when two things happen:

"Someone mentions Elsa"

"Someone votes/wants to vote Kawaii"

Anything else? You don't care. Doesn't solve. Doesn't hunt. Doesn't anything. Only: Kawaii and Elsa. I mean wolves are rarely obvious but wow you really are an obvious wolf. No idea what your plan even is here. Defend village Elsa to get village cred? Blatantly defend wolf Elsa every time someone pushes them.

Too scummy to be scum? No. Just scum, sometimes life is like that.

[Comus]

All of the above 'Not Elsa Content' is just content for the sake of content by the way. I've given Kawaii space this game to do what they want. What they did is: Ask questions that they hope seems town, never really cares or follows up though; Defend Elsa, like, always, and suddenly appear if there's a vote on them.

Classic lurk wolf, just a very strange wolf strat overall but hey whatever floats your blimp I guess.

[Comus]

I made a quote wall showing that I do solve/hunt

Meh.

Why do you downplay my play?

Dubious intent, strange focus.

what exactly is there to engage with besides the Elsa push?

Your uber-focus on Elsa all game has been weird. Like wolf weird and not good weird. Either you know Elsa is good and you use this defense to... well no idea, weird play for wolf but still wolfy af in the way you approach things, or Elsa is just a wolf and you've been scrambling to make them look good all game.

You only appear when you are danger. And yeah asking questions then just leaving it at that, over all these pages, that ain't solving but theater. Those questions you asked achieve nothing. Filler.

[Comus]

You hard tunneling me, I hope you stop soon, I realized I've failed in engaging in this game, I want to solve and I know you've given me time to, sadly my time was taken away, I feel I'm not the only one who's been giving up this game

Solve then. Do what Klick suggests: Ignore me, and solve. Explain your reads. But whatever.

[Comus]

Save the Dragons flips green and you know it.

[Comus]

VOTE: Save the Dragons



I will now show why Gimli is a wolf.

[Comus]

You make me yawn

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Here's a bit of gossip....There's a wolf in Magical Girl, Menalque and Ausuka. Can

you

spot the wolf? It's got such pretty fur.

[Comus]

All wolves have fur. Slinking in the night the pelted ones near, making not a rustle as they bound over snow. Go rabbit, go, run, run, run into the sun.

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Laugh and the world laughs with you, cry and you cry alone.

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Laugh and the world laughs with you. Cry and you cry alone.

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Kokichi Oma, Magical Girl, Ausuka, Menalque.

We've found the den.

Rejoice.

[Comus]

Kokichi Oma, Magical Girl, Ausuka, Menalque.

We've found the den.

Rejoice.

[Comus]

At least two wolves in the above. Even though I'm no better than a beast, this I know.

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Rejoice.

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Two wolves, no less. Now hop little rabbits.

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You should be grinning.

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Ausuka, Kokichi Oma, Magical Girl, Menalque...

Who're the rabbits? Who're the wolves? Who hunts by moonlight and who are being set up as fools? The world is turning and so the sun dies another death, the silver eye of void staring down 'pon all. Who will fall? Will a final howl be howled? Death stalks, cowled. We must skitter, slither, slide, go deep into our holes and hide.

[Comus]

Klick is locked in as villager.

[Comus]

Voting in Ausuka, Magical Girl, Kokichi Oma and Menalque tomorrow will expose two wolves.

[Comus]

Ausuka, Magical Girl, Menalque, Kokichi Oma.

Two wolves in there.

[Comus]

I was waiting for that post, frog. Amusing.

[Comus]

Ausuka, Kokichi Oma can be likely wolves together. I'm staying with my four, but Ausuka as a wolf makes that post expecting that I'd see them at some point. The mistake they are making, as wolf, is that I saw them earlier than they realized. And if they started expecting it earlier than I suspected, their general push to discredit me while still trying to pocket me speaks for itself.

So in my list of four, Ausuka and Kokichi are likely the paired ones, they had early theatre, then Ausuka tried to save Kokichi with the Gimli push, didn't help much, then Kokichi did clown vigilante claim.

But I am sticking with four for now, I am not that certain that Ausuka is a wolf but many things point toward it.

Menalque, Ausuka, Magical Girl

(??)

, Kokichi Oma.

This is the golden path to victory. Once two of them are dead and revealed, you'll see. The rest will be wolves, or one wolf depending.

Post Edit: Bodyguard?

[Comus]

MG/Elsa/Comus

Rejoice.

Kokichi Oma/Ausuka is a very solid bet. They have excellent equity.

Rejoice.

[Comus]

I'm still on Ausuka/Magical Girl/Kokichi Oma/Menalque having two wolves.

Now I'm starting to believe my mid-day suspicions when i started watching the two of them were correct though, and I'm pushing Ausuka/Kokichi as a more definite two.

The way Kokichi plays around the Save the Dragons flip is pretty damning. I also believed Kokichi let slip that there is in fact one wolf on Fenrir.

I do wonder who...... Hmmmmm. What a mystery! (Not really. Can only be one of two)

Yeah we're done here, I believe. Such a bore. Give me a more lurid circus next time.

[Comus]

Ausuka is town

Be very careful. You are my one and only village lock right now(also Save The Dragons, who I voted because he really seemed to want it), and having been in here with Ausuka all the time, I warn you to study Ausuka/Kokichi.

[Comus]

Forgive me Fenrir! (I did think you could have been a bit of scum honestly but your play did scream vanilla and I did tell Gimli that you are and of course Gimli likes all these little pushes so... we'll see)

[Comus]

I’m gonna be completely honest with y’all.
One of the reason why I hammered immediately was because I thought Comus was still tunneling Gimli so I took it before he removes it and waste it on Gimli again.

Bad. If Gimli is scum this will eternally amuse me.

[Comus]

And if you're scum that's one of the weakest excuses for a hammer I've ever seen.

[Comus]

Luckily I'm a Ausuka Oma belieber. So. Whatever. Sorry Fenrir.

[Comus]

I counterclaim bodyguard!

I will protect myself.

Good call.

[Comus]

I had multiple reasons actually.

Deadline was nigh and I wanted a lim within my three list of names, STD was giving off strong goon/vt vibe so at worst we’d be losing a VT, STD flip would give me my much needed info on how close/far I am in the spectrum in this game, etc

Yeah but you already said the thing so I might just laugh at it in the future.

[Comus]

Well, Ausuka Oma is solid. Menalque can haz good vibes. We'll see.

[Comus]

The worst look Gimli has is how acted towards Salsabil/Fenrir. You can say Gimli town as many times you like but that has to be kept in mind.

Kkichi Oma looks worse for the unvothe though.

[Comus]

Both Gimli and Ausuka going after obv villager Klick here is also a bad look. Ausuka looks worse on that front though. And many others.

[Comus]

Klick lock village. Elsa can be wolf? Not sure. Kokichi Oma and Ausuka excellent rocks to lift for scorpions.

[Comus]

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Subtle positioning. Especially where Kokichi is concerned. I'll explain in full if I'm alive once dawn comes.

[Comus]

Bad to the bone

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VOTE: Ausuka

[Comus]

Gimli, are you willing to ignore Ausuka for a while? Elsa results are important, we need that. Kokichi Oma, Ausuka and Enchant is an excellent call, it has logic behind it. Don't let Ausuka discredit you by saying you're trying to pocket me. That's a very transparent wolf play from her.

Ausuka wants thing to get messy again right now. To move beyond what's obvious and create more null data through noise. Everyone can check in but on the whole this thing is over, the wolves have overplayed their hand.

[Comus]

Wait do you still think Elsa's a cop lol

I won't be interacting with you this phase.

[Comus]

Enchant and Ausuka are gaslighting Elsa.

[Comus]

We can vote out Ausuka within twelve hours and get our wolf. Wait for Elsa's result but honestly why wait. Now, if you'll excuse me, it's time for my tea party. Sayonara.

[Comus]

my lord are you scum?

Scum of the earth, yes. Not a wolf though. I'm dipping for this phase, Ausuka is the best and only vote and you all can figure that out for yourselves, or not. It'll be fun to see what happens but the truth is a hurricane at this point. Meat, then watching fungus, then tea. Sayonara.

[Comus]

We can vote out Ausuka within twelve hours and get our wolf. Wait for Elsa's result but honestly why wait. Now, if you'll excuse me, it's time for my tea party. Sayonara.

my lord are you scum?

Ausuka is attempting to bore into your mind like a sharp-jawed beetle by the way.

[Comus]

ah okay I know who that is

yeah he is town

And it's working. Hurricane? Don't see a hurricane. I'm imbibing this beetle juice. Funny funny. Then the storm comes. Sayonara.

[Comus]

I mean tbh when they're giving elsa crap for the claim I buy that they're doing it from a townie standpoint and I'm just a potatohead who can't tell the difference between a fakeclaim and a real claim

I did warn you, just like I warned you about Fenrir. Either you're blind or a wolf, don't care.

[Comus]

We still can blast geraintm

No. There are only four possible people who can be scum. geraintm is a distant fifth.

Ausuka>Enchant/Kokichi Oma then Gimli? then geraintm??

That's the hurricane of truth. Now, farewell.

[Comus]

If you're a villager I'm just laughing at you at this point.

Ausuka>Enchant/Kokichi Oma.

If you're a villager, you'll start to doubt this because you're allowing Ausuka into your mind, and because you see what you think you have to see instead of what's simply there. Ausuka elim is the only elim for toda, Ausuka is the only vote I'm making today. Ausuka is a wolf, through and through, absolutely, without a doubt. I have commitments elsewhere, so this is what I'm saying, this is the vote we need today, and that's that.

If you're a wolf... you're one with Ausuka.

Enough said, have a happy journey rabbit.

[Comus]

are you a cop?

No.

comus I want to understand what thunder stroke you that you went from full mindmelding with ausuka to her being your 100% solve. that didn't happen overnight, it was d1. show me what posts she made that gave you such a hard impression.

No.

I'm voting Ausuka, only Ausuka, Ausuka is a wolf. I'll be posting again in two plus days.

[Comus]

Ausuka>Enchant/Kokichi Oma.

Everyone else is locktown.

[Comus]

Ausuka is Omgussing me while trying to pocket Gimli.
Enchant is a goon and killed Magical Girl.
Kokichi Oma is with them.


This is the team. All three want to kill our cop. You are all on your own from here on out(Especially you Gimli)

[Comus]

VOTE: kokichi

is anyone still townreading him?

You're still on your own but good vote

This game is solved. Ausuka can call me Frogterkingesque all she likes that won't kill the truth.

[Comus]

why especially me? you spent the entire d1 trying to kill me now you want me to just listen to whatever you say confidently?

Especially you

[Comus]

Ausuka is Omgussing me while trying to pocket Gimli.
Enchant is a goon and killed Magical Girl.
Kokichi Oma is with them.


This is the team. All three want to kill our cop. You are all on your own from here on out(Especially you Gimli)

This is a terrible reads list. No way you genuinely believe this

This game is solved.

[Comus]

So yeah. Last post in like two-three days, should have logged off a while ago, but this is very important.

Ausuka, Kokichi Oma, Enchant. I'm dead serious about this solve. Enchant is a goon, Enchant killed Magical Girl. I do not know what Ausuka and Kokichi are beyond their alignment.

Here are your wolves. I'm back when I'm back, I have little time for this, but know that this is the big money solve.

Adieu.

[Comus]

comus are you a tracker?

I'm not anything. Enchant did kill Magical Girl though. My vote stays on Ausuka. Kokichi is aligned. That's all, signing off.

[Comus]

... if you wanted to claim Tracker you should've been simpler with your words Comus. Unless that's the point and your wording it like that to make me think your claiming tracker on Enchant. Bleh.

VOTE: Enchant

This game is weird already. Why not?

Elsa, it's Ausuka, Enchant and Kokichi. I'm not giving evidence, I'm not expecting people to trust me, I'm just spreading the truth at this point.

[Comus]

Comus is so funny unironically

And so right

(((Adieu)))

[Comus]

Says goodbye three times.

Six+ with this post.

Acts like Mod slipped and sent him the scum team by accident.

No.

Refuses to elaborate further and leaves.

Yes, I'm right, and from today onward, busy at work.

God Comus if your bullcrapping us just say so or tell Implosion to reset the game or something. I already played a game once where mod let a player replace in but it was an alt of a spectator who hounded me and my team without explicitly saying so. They got banned for cheating later.

TL;DR wow drink a chill pill. Ausuka/Kokichi/Enchant is the wolf team. No idea what abyss your mind wanders but it needs to see the truth.

Adieu.

-FIN-

[Comus]

If we're done talking then you wouldn't have responded. Are you sad I didn't include you in the magical alliance so you murdered MG in retaliation? Very petty if true.

I'm done with this game, for a few days, in general. I know it's solved, I don't care what others think because two wolves have been open-wolfing since mid Day 1. Enchant was the deepwolf, got them with the joke vig claim. So no Elsa, I'll talk to you, it's Ausuka I'm not talking with today, she's good with twisting intent and weaving narrative. I like Ausuka, I just know when it's better to ignore a wolf.

I'm not liking your reactions here but I will be talking with you. You're probably just confused. There's no modslip, people need to chill and look at what's in front of them.

Bye bye

[Comus]

I'll just your Enchant thing and ignore the Ausuka thing for now. Kokichi is always a good compromise.

I'm vanilla, I don't have an 'Enchant thing'. It just klicks that Enchant is a goon and killed Magical. Gimli made me see the light, Ausuka's resistance was the golden nail. Ausuka is a wolf, that's canon. Kokichi aligned there, lore.

Now I really gotta faaaaaaaaaaaaaaadeeee.

[Comus]

VOTE: Elsa Jay

[Comus]

ok i changed my mind

VOTE: Comus

[Comus]

Spoiler:

-FIN-

[Comus]

ok i changed my mind

VOTE: Comus

I follow the frog. (i doubt we will get enough to vote out Elsa today anyway)

VOTE: Comus

Weak.

[Comus]

Elsa Jay + KawaiiKame + Ausuka(?)

The monkeys were pretty clear.

And Kokichi you better vote one of them soon. 'Oh Elsa isn't going through let me vote Comus with Ausuka because.... let me vote Comus with Ausuka.' Not even amusing, just sad.

Elsa doesn't claim modifier, isn't a cop. KawaiiKame isn't a hider. I have Ausuka as their wolf friend for now, makes sense, but the greater certainty lies on Elsa and Kawaii. I'd be willing to give Ausuka a chance, a very small one though, to shpw ke she isn't third wolf. Going off Day Two, dubious. Ausuka needs Elsa and Kawaii's claims believed. That looks crimson.

[Comus]

KawaiiKame

No. Kawaii is fakeclaiming hider with Elsa. Ausuka is quite likely complicit, but I'll try to be open-minded about her. I warn you not to clear Kawaii, for Fenrir's sake.

[Comus]

I mean, I would do Elsa but aorn I’d lean more towards enchant

That's what the wolves will find palatable. If Ausuka is a wolf, she wants to keep Enchant alive and pocketed, ripe for a future mis-elim. Kawaii isn't engaged so probably will offer no justification for why Enchant, and wait for villagers to pile on. Elsa is happy if anyone but scum dies today. I'm not factoring in other thirds than Ausuka for now.

The fact that Enchant pushes Elsa being fake almost clears them for me, in fact I'll say it does. Ausuka pays lip service but it's clear she's protecting Elsa. Likewise Kokichi is hedgey and eagerly votes me when thinking a liar won't go through. Gimli is likewise hedgey.

Only Enchant is keeping it real.

I suggest either Elsa or Kawaii, don't let fakeclaims make the wolves lol and laze to victory while languidly mocking our continued in-fighting. Rather let's strike hard and fast.

[Comus]

i need to go back and solve this game
This game is confusing af Idk who to believe

You're just stalling so your vote doesn't give you away.

[Comus]

Elsa/Kawaii/Ausuka most likely for now.

I'll throw in outliers with Elsa/Kawaii/(?) but the way I see it the way Ausuka has played around the other two's claims looks pretty damning. The only reason I'll hedge on Ausuka is amount of content, which she can easily manufacture as a wolf, and her claim, which I haven't convinced myself is a scum claim yet. Elsa and Kawaii are faking it though. Don't let them make it.

And I won't be defending myself against votes, cases or pushes. Anyone believing I'm a wolf deserve to reap the fruits of their folly.

[Comus]

I mean, I would do Elsa but aorn I’d lean more towards enchant

That's what the wolves will find palatable. If Ausuka is a wolf, she wants to keep Enchant alive and pocketed, ripe for a future mis-elim. Kawaii isn't engaged so probably will offer no justification for why Enchant, and wait for villagers to pile on. Elsa is happy if anyone but scum dies today. I'm not factoring in other thirds than Ausuka for now.

The fact that Enchant pushes Elsa being fake almost clears them for me, in fact I'll say it does. Ausuka pays lip service but it's clear she's protecting Elsa. Likewise Kokichi is hedgey and eagerly votes me when thinking a liar won't go through. Gimli is likewise hedgey.

Only Enchant is keeping it real.

I suggest either Elsa or Kawaii, don't let fakeclaims make the wolves lol and laze to victory while languidly mocking our continued in-fighting. Rather let's strike hard and fast.

Wrong. Enchant isnt keeping it real how could I have forgotten their unvote. Weak. Just me and Skygazer then. Keeping it real.
But the way Enchant went for Elsa being a liar still looksbetter than all the other clowns. Ausuka likely faked the Elsa push for distancing. Kokichi is fickle and needs to start pushing, anyone. If Kokichi is a villager they're just operating on emotions at this point. Gimli's confusion can be geniune. Cute, but doesn't get Elsa or Kawaii through.

I'm stepping away from this day. There are two fakeclaims and Ausuka is scummy as funk.

I hope you all have the capacity to vote on fakeclaims. Usually, that's how villages lose: believing bullshit.

[Comus]

I know he's not big on communication but i really struggle to believe comus goes from refusing to talk to me and proclaiming the game is solved and we all must rejoiced to like totally changing the scumteam this easily

i also don't think it's a coincidence this happens after the first real heat he's gotten all game

Amusing narrative. Now vote Elsa or Kawaii.

[Comus]

But you won't Ausuka.

[Comus]

If you think your little vote, and then Kokichi's leech strike, is heat, well, you don't think that.

You want to save Elsa Jay, don't you?

Cute. As I said, I'm not defending myself today. The fakeclaims are blatant, clear, anyone afraid to vote out lying scum will dig their pwn graves.

[Comus]

Yeah you're right I won't

Yeah. Neither will you vote for Kawaii. Klick was the chosen wolf target? Enchant too precious for future mis-elims. Klick was silent so that was your chosen push. Now that I'm on Elsa you're hoping you can corral enough sheep to push me off the cliff.

Try harder.

[Comus]

Wolf! Ausuka hoped there would be traction behind Gimli, probably. No one bit. Ausuka believes she can pocket Skygazer and menalque. Klick and Comus fair game, Ausuka thinks she senses weakness.

You got Kokichi to leech onto my wagon, Ausuka. I eagerly wait to see what tactics you'll use to recruit others. And how you'll convince them that Elsa and Kawaii aren't bullshitting everyone with their claims.

All you can do at this point is convince me you're not aligned with the fakeclaimers. I'll hold that probability open.

[Comus]

What happened to my scumteam with enchant and kokichi

Where did it go

I miss my scumbuddies

Yeah I don't care. Elsa and Kawaii are faking it. You refuse to vote them? To consider looking at them? I'm done here.

[Comus]

Attempt at Gimli. Consider Gazer and menalque maleable, pocketable and possible allies. Rehash sweet Gimli's day one analysis of you trying, and thinking, you had me brainwashed, me giving that impression.

I'm done.

Get the two fakers.

Beware of Ausuka.

Adieu.

[Comus]

ok i changed my mind

VOTE: Comus

Spoiler:

-FIN-

ok i changed my mind

VOTE: Comus

I follow the frog. (i doubt we will get enough to vote out Elsa today anyway)

VOTE: Comus

I know he's not big on communication but i really struggle to believe comus goes from refusing to talk to me and proclaiming the game is solved and we all must rejoiced to like totally changing the scumteam this easily

i also don't think it's a coincidence this happens after the first real heat he's gotten all game

Progression of my solve(had it long long before voting Elsa) and the.... heat? (Two naked votes by Ausuka and Kokichi. Ausuka switches off Klick when I vote Elsa, Kokichi thinks Elsa ain't gonna happen so sheeps the frog cos.... said frog is village)

Vote out either Elsa or Kawaii today. I don't see any value in me saying anything else or anything more.

Bye for a while.

[Comus]

catching up, had a funeral yesterday.
i can't deal with Comus, their post style is just too confusing and all over the place and (importantly) just backed up with nothing that i cannot deal with them at all.
whatever they are trying to achieve is just never going to work on me.

Whatever. There are two fakeclaims, either you all get them or you don't. I won't shed any tears if you choose to be blind.

Sayonara.

[Comus]

Sorry about my tone, I'm too cold sometimes.

Beyond that, get Elsa and Kawaii.

[Comus]

Village locks:

Klick
menalque

Probably villagers:

Enchant
Skygazer

Could trust:

geraintm

???(willing to trust)

Gimli
Kokichi Oma

Seems wolf:

Ausuka

Wolves:

KawaiiKame

Elsa Jay

The way I spoke to geraintm just now was horrible. I'll explain why Elsa and Kawaii are wolves, in 'normal' terms. Right now it's best that I shut up, for a long while. I am sincere in believing that Elsa and Kawaii are fakeclaiming, there is reasoning and logic behind it, I'll plot it out within a day or so with a healthier mind.

Again, apologies gera, and I hope everyone enjoys their lives.

[Comus]

catching up, had a funeral yesterday.
i can't deal with Comus, their post style is just too confusing and all over the place and (importantly) just backed up with nothing that i cannot deal with them at all.
whatever they are trying to achieve is just never going to work on me.

Whatever. There are two fakeclaims, either you all get them or you don't. I won't shed any tears if you choose to be blind.

Sayonara.

See, this where we differ. i generally beleive claims until they are proven impossible, you seem to be coming from the opposite direction. it is really hard to approach the game and not clash with you when we are looking at it so differently.
your tone was fine btw.

I feel guilty I guess. Thanks.

I'll be more lucid about my belief at a later date, as promised. For now one main factor is Elsa claming modified cop but never stating this modifier, both Klick and Ausuka have outright claimed Compulsive and Loud. We have the Gimli result, but still no modifier. The rest about why Kawaii/Elsa is scum will take a lot of backreading and quoting to explain, I know I've been jumpy with solves since end day one but this one I'll case, it's solid.

Later.

[Comus]

lol

[Comus]

Klick locktown. Ausuka claim believable for now. Elsa and Kawaii fake claiming.

Wolves are Elsa and Kawaii.

Ausuka good wolf candidate. Kokichi can be shoved in as third, why not. Everyone else decent chance to be villagers, menalque and Klick are.

'Scumreads everyone'

[Comus]

We're still waiting for that modifier Elsa. I'll let you cook.

As I said to gera, I'll case this, what fun that's gonna be.

[Comus]

and I've gone full potatoes in this game and I'm sorry, I don't think I'll get involved with it or re-read or do anything good about it. I don't really know why... but I might be burnt out from playing mafia, I think that's the reason.

I feel you, look after yourself

[Comus]

Easy game.

[Comus]

Kawaii should work on their theatre. Easy. Game. Cases coming in 36 hours, as time allows. Wolves should try and kill me before then.

[Comus]

Trust me it won't be the wolves that do it.

Good luck with that.

Ausuka: Votes Comus when Comus votes Elsa
Kokichi: Oh uh... follow the frog. Later: Uh yeah Comus has everyone, everyone, as scum.
Elsa: I'm not claiming my modifier nyaaaaaaah now die.

36 hours.

[Comus]

There could be only one bullshiter about PRs


Let's fight for death

You are the Highlander, you still have geraintm believing you're a bodyguard after you claimed vig and later vt. You are the one.

[Comus]

It's better to burn out than fade away

[Comus]

Kawaii should work on their theatre. Easy. Game. Cases coming in 36 hours, as time allows. Wolves should try and kill me before then.

I think this is the 7th time youve said this

[Comus]

It's better to burn out than fade away

Wrong empji

[Comus]

I'm still waiting for the case that I'm scum with enchant and kokichi, personally

Tempting.

[Comus]

Also the idea that I could be lying about being visionary seems pretty ??? because, like, my role proves itself through giving the results to other people

You can just say I'm a mafia visionary or something it's not that hard

Never said your claim is fake hoppity hop.

[Comus]

Comus is using ChatGPT to come up with his reads.

I am a hardcore Butlerian Jihadist, so no.

[Comus]

knowing who comus is I might be one of the few that actually enjoy playing with him, especially because he has this tendency of creating big pure solves using stuff that's evident in the thread and, while he presents it as The Truth, he is nuanced enough to flip it upside down when presented with new evidence etc etc. getting tunneled by him was absolutely horrible though.

I get too obsessive Have a good one Gimli

[Comus]

UNVOTE: Elsa Jay

I can't trust this new jailkeeper claim, or anything Elsa says anymore. Really might be just to avoid attaching a modifier to original cop claim and endgame.

I'm distancing myself, again, need to reasses. Maybe take up Ausuka's offer and case Enchant/Ausuka/Kokichi lele.

My reads are still mostly where they were in my list, right now I think I need others' perspective and past data, especially concerning votes. They don't lie. Hopefully clarity comes. Be good.

[Comus]

VOTE: Kokichi Oma

Whatever. I'm back when I'm back.

[Comus]

Earlier Kokichi/Ausuka pairing might have been golden, I'll explore. Day one associatives important here. The way they jumped onto me the moment I called kawaii/elsa might be telling. Means they waited for me to shift off them before striking, so they look good 'defending town' while also striking at the enemy they want gone.

kawaii/elsa mostly tone based and how they talk to one another but I'll remain sus. What I said day one stands: Kawaii doesn't do much, hyper focus on Elsa, not sure why. I'll let it stew, worth noting.

Kokichi best bet for wolf right now. Ausuka looks bad. Kokichi townread a lot, they aren't hunting scum. Gimli might have had been on point about them.

If Elsa is actually town my earlier sus of Ausuka and Kokichi for going after Elsa, and now Enchant going after Kawaii and Elsa before me, can mean a lot.

Nothing beyond this for a long while.

[Comus]

Amazingly enough I would also accept you dying even over Kokichi rn.

Horrible statement.

[Comus]

Eh, I don't want Enchant

I want you
VOTE: Kokichi

Can I be your friend?

[Comus]

Eh, I don't want Enchant

I want you
VOTE: Kokichi

Can I be your friend?

Yes

[Comus]

I wouldn't be surprised with whatever flip including vt at this point

I typed up a response but actually I should probably not be saying these takes out loud

Yeah you still haven't given any reason for voting me, with Elsa and Kokichi. Thank you and goodbye.

[Comus]

I wouldn't be surprised with whatever flip including vt at this point

I typed up a response but actually I should probably not be saying these takes out loud

Yeah you still haven't given any reason for voting me, with Elsa and Kokichi. Thank you and goodbye.

Literally just iso yourself at the start of the day and think really hard

Not going to work Ausuka. You vote me the moment I vote Elsa. You had a lot of space to do it before that. You were camping on Klick end day 1, start day 2, again without reasons. Day 2, you went after Elsa for fakeclaim. Elsa voted Kokichi. Kokichi then sheeps you, goads Elsa onto me.

'ISO yourself' is not a reason

The moment I switch off Elsa.. who you now state isn't a jailkeeper.

You're afraid to case me and provide actual reasons, to lock yourself in. we both know you don't think I'm scum.

Good luck. You've cornered yourself.

[Comus]

So you're saying me tunneling Froggy day 1 was scum theatre?

You amuse me. I'll get to the Ausuka/Kokichi Oma possibilities regarding Day 1 in my own time, you most definitely didn't tunnel Ausuka all day. when your wagon gains traction, Ausuka's response becomes interesting. And that's when I really started to perk up.

I don't care all that much right now though.

I have three clown votes on me and I'll love to see how you, ausuka and Elsa jutify your votes other than "Durrrrrrr Comus thinks we might be scum durrrrr look at all these people comus think might be scum" or "durrrr comus ISO yourself."

Such lazy lazy rabbits.

bye bye

[Comus]

Thank you Ausuka. "Comus called me scum." "Comus then called Elsa scum."

You have no reasoning beyond this.

[Comus]

Oh not to mention you still didn't give really any significant reason for your reads except Elsa is fake claiming cop

Bullshit. Try harder.

Which is something most of us knew on day 1 and when I pointed it out you accused me of fucking GASLIGHTING of all things like what

Yeah I'm done here. I can vote you, I can vote Kokichi. Both of you are vultures looking for the best branch. Not town at all.

[Comus]

Ausuka is looking for easy pushes, Klick was one of these. Once I switched to Elsa, she convinced herself it was safe to push me. Kokichi piled on. Ausuka will never, ever progress on her read on me.

She'll stay stuck on "But Comus you called me scum" because she knows that's the low effort push with greater profit. It triggers defensive responses in others. It puts me on the backfoot because 'But Comus you already pushed me so I can vote you.'

Meanwhile, timing is a thing. See how Ausuka is only now crafting this narrative. Before, there was no impetus for her to provide reasoning, as no one expected or demanded it. Same with Ausuka on Klick.

This is fundamental wolf play. Go for wagons, but don't expose yourself too much. Shade others, but do it subtly and silently enough not to draw notice. This isn't scumhunting. This isn't someone caring about town winning. It's pure wolf positioning.

I'll case Day One Ausuka and Kokichi when I have time for this again. Probably in two days' time.

May the universe be good to all.

[Comus]

Again for me, so I have better understanding of game state

KawaiiKame - Could be scum or could be town idk. I'm not getting the solving vibe I got from him trying in DN maf
geraintm - town
Menalque - idr any of their posts
Gimli - probably town but playing bad
Elsa Jay - probably scum
Comus - playing bad and probably scum for it
Skygazer - said 2 funny posts that I can remember, don't know what else they've done
Enchant - probably town
Ausuka - town
Klick - I think I liked their catchup posts but null

we can vote this out. at least geraintm tries with his read despite not being fully caught up. this is just a lazy as fuck scum readslist if I ever saw one. votes Comus when comus is on Elsa/Kawaii. Has.... who as scum? Elsa and Kawaii.

Ausuka, Kokichi. Excellent votes.

I'll stay on Kokichi.

Peace.

[Comus]

I am actually irrationally angry at this considering Comus is probably doing this on purpose

I'm going to go and do other things see you guys

I believe you're scum for the way you've been acting Day One and Day Two. So yes, I am purposeful. Have a good time.

Peace.

[Comus]

You literally had me ausuka and elsa as scum team when I was voting Elsa

wrong. Ausuka/Enchant/Kokichi Oma

and when Ausuka was voting Elsa. So you're basically calling your play scummy

wrong. Ausuka/Enchant/Kokichi Oma


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Anyway, your readslist is the nail in the coffin. It's jarring, could have done better. Not even reading menalque?

Kokichi, you're a wolf.

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Peace ya'll.

[Comus]

you're scummy af sometimes

+1

DO NOT like that above post.

[Comus]

UNVOTE: Kokichi Oma

[Comus]

VOTE: Kokichi Oma

[Comus]

Ausuka, when you come back I’d like you to tell me how often people playing like comus have ended up flipping town vs ended up flipping scum in ur experience

I do not really think I've seen anything like his d2 play

In a vague sense 'town can play badly' is accurate, obviously, and I thought comus was town for the reasons you're insinuating for most of the game.

I can't really reconcile his arrogance with the willingness to totally change pace. Acting like he has the game solved on d2, accusing me of gaslighting which is an abuse word, and mocking people for not having the same solve he does - and hours later, he just posts a meme and votes Elsa Jay for fakeclaiming - after accusing me of gaslighting because I said elsa was fakeclaiming!!!! There is a limit to what I can tolerate

to clarify; I have seen town be arrogant, but when they are, they tend to be very persistent in their beliefs and do not change their minds unless somehow forced to.

I thought originally this was miscommunication and he just wasn't as confident as he sounds, but his stuff on d2 was just like, crossing the line twice over on what can be explained by bad communication

I was right, Ausuka is not going to progress on my read. Hopes to grind the same theme into a workable narrative. "Comus voted me" "Comus then voted Elsa"

Nothing more. Wolf perspective. Cornered, as I said. Klick is already confirmed by Ausuka's non push on them. Now Aus and Kokichi are afraid of confirming others(Oma's readlist) and Ausuka is latching onto the single thing she thinks she can sink me with: "Oh Comus voted me"' "Oh comus changed mind"

Read: "Comus is hunting scum. I don't like the places where Comus hunts. Just..... get Comus!"

Kokichi: "Uh yeah Comus calls everyone scum"

Elsa: "Yeah yeah Comus calls everyone scum Great Leader Ausuka is being undermined!"

Kokichi: "Yeah Yeah our poor Great Leader."

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All my time here I've never seen three such pointles, caseless, toothless votes.

The desperation is rank.

[Comus]

and hours later, he just posts a meme and votes Elsa Jay for fakeclaiming

Days later.

Ausuka and Kokichi are just compulsively lying at this point hoping they can, by some miracle, push me through.

I caught Kokichi in one of these outright narrative lies on just the previous page, now here's Ausuka doing the same, changing days to hours while using victim tactics.

I really expected more, like, everyone calls both of you good wolves

[Comus]

ooh, while you're here, i'd like you to explain in depth why you thought me saying elsa jay was fakeclaiming was gaslighting

please show me the town POV here, almighty comus

Nah.

[Comus]

Kokichi: "Yeah Yeah our poor Great Leader."

Apologies Kokichi I misread, you never parroted this. It was Ausuka agreeing with Elsa.

[Comus]

Of course you can't lol

I don't think you're comprehending your position here yet. Latching onto a mono-narrative, activating the victim card and hoping you can string my rants along by asking leading questions is not going to work out for you.

If you want my mis-execution, the best tactic would be to go back to Day 1 and parrot folk like menalque by saying I was TMI'ng on Fenrir, or was hoping to mis-elim Gimli, or you know,say something like I was gunning for Elsa from the start. But these don't really fit your strategy here, do they? No, you want a nice mono-narrative, a nice 'gotcha now you gonna die' and from your wolf perspective my Day One play makes that too hard.

The exact moment I vote Elsa, you vote me, twist your read. Only later, you explain this narrative. Comus calls Ausuka/Kokichi? Everything's chill, 'Rejoice.' Ausuka/Enchant/Kokichi? Calm, waiting.

Elsa/Kawaii/Ausuka?

Here comes the push. Surprise surprise, Kokichi is also on it. Was I wrong on Elsa? Don't know. Was I wrong on Kawaii? Probably. Enchant? Possibly.

Nevertheless..... "comus voted me" "comus voted elsa"

Come back to me once you learn to fake concern for town as scum. Don't see why I should be coaching the wolfteam.

[Comus]

Ausuka, get real.

[Comus]

ooh, while you're here, i'd like you to explain in depth why you thought me saying elsa jay was fakeclaiming was gaslighting

please show me the town POV here, almighty comus

I'll humor you this once, semantically, ignoring the fact that this question exists only so you can have an excuse to dig into your mono-trench and try to lure others into it.

My understanding of gaslighting was it being synonymous with 'undermining.' I recall duckduckgoing the term... shortly after, not sure if it was before or after your and enchant's response, I'm pretty sure before? My mind says immediately after I posted, whatever.

Gaslighting is brainwashing, or whatever. This I learned at least.

I wasn't born English so I have little emotional attachment to it, and the puritanical zeidgeist of 'abuse words' in general amuses me, as you termed this.
At that point in time my intention was to state 'undermining' not 'mk-ultraing.'

This isn't an explanation for my behavior, I'm not going that distance with you because you're openwolfing and I'm not going to add fuel to your fire. Not anything at all really, mostly an out-of-game aside. I'd like to see if you twist it into your narrative though.

[Comus]

UNVOTE: Elsa Jay

I can't trust this new jailkeeper claim, or anything Elsa says anymore.

So, You don't trust them.
but you unvote them?
did the AI tell you to dothat?

You are a null entity in this game. Your menalque tunnel is horrible. Everything else you say flirts with utter blandness and overall your non-engagement day two shines through like a caldera in the night. Talk to me once you start hunting actual scum.

Regardless of alignmnet I'll hammer you for boring me, that's how I feel about your input.

[Comus]

Comus - VT
KawaiiKame - hider
ausuka - loud visionary
Elsa Jay -

Cop

Jailkeeper??? and maybe clear on Gimli ???
Enchant - had claimed

bodyguard

but i am making the assumption now that isn't true

Elsa - was visited by unknown player - confirmed to be Asuku by Elsa

VOTE: Menalque
sorry, i know this isn't where anyone else is but i just can't see how this doesn't have a higher than anyone else chance of being scum

Menalque locktown.

You don't even know about Klick's claim, I didn't tell you at first but fuck they still ain't there. Compulsive visitor..and twice you have failed to note down Gimli, who claimed VT before you started these lists. And enchant hard claimed VT. After a vig claim related to magical girl death.

Geaintm... I don't know. Scum or town, don't care. They're glossing over this game.

I ain't trusting anyone who doesn't have their head in the game. Not on Menalque, who's doing leaugues more than gera. Menalque is in fact scumhunting. As menalque focused on Enchant, trying to communicate, geraintm tunneled menalque. Now geraintm comes with the vote. Says as good a chance as any. Doesn't have a grip on game state. Well let's see where it goes.

[Comus]

yo, comus, I missed the bit where this happened but can you like, stop telling ausuka she's gaslighting? it's clearly bothering her and it's not cool

I already explained this to Ausuka, though not that I care all that much beyond semantics. Gaslighting, I thought, means undermining. Didn't know it means brainwashing, and I'm surprised it's offensive at all. Overall I'll use it, within it's new meaning, because.

Because I'm not a complete ass, I'll never reference Ausuka with it again, people have boundaries regardless of alignment.

[Comus]

Menal locktowned for being tunneled on townie?

Makes sense.

Are you scum with Kokichi?

[Comus]

Menal locktowned for being tunneled on townie?

Makes sense.

Are you scum with Kokichi?

I play for myself from this point.

I like lone wolves, you got style.

[Comus]

I like flattery, continue on, stump.

I like being called a stump.

[Comus]

I like flattery, continue on, stump.

I like being called a stump.

And i like calling you stump.

I admire that.

[Comus]

Ausuka has no other scumreads.

[Comus]

Who? Klick? Elsa? No one.

[Comus]

ausuka and comus is TvT

I'm actually wishing you're right, i'm tired.

[Comus]

Who? Klick? Elsa? No one.

I don't think you're comprehending your position here yet. Latching onto a mono-narrative, activating the victim card and hoping you can string my rants along by asking leading questions is not going to work out for you.

If you want my mis-execution, the best tactic would be to go back to Day 1 and parrot folk like gimli by saying I was TMI'ng on Enchant, or was hoping to mis-elim Gimli, or you know,say something like I was gunning for Elsa from the start. But these don't really fit your strategy here, do they? No, you want a nice mono-narrative, a nice 'gotcha now you gonna die' and from your wolf perspective my Day One play makes that too hard.

No one, gotcha.

[Comus]

Vanilla cop.

[Comus]

Gets vanilla/not vanilla results.

[Comus]

Neopolitian actually specifically only checks if your a vanilla townie, not just vanilla in general. A VC would get a positive on a regular goon for example. I think I read on the wiki a plain SK also comes up as vanilla?

No that's a bunyip, plus the healing aspect? SK comes up vanilla to neapol. But goons also?

[Comus]

Neopolitian actually specifically only checks if your a vanilla townie, not just vanilla in general. A VC would get a positive on a regular goon for example. I think I read on the wiki a plain SK also comes up as vanilla?

Actually you're right my bad. Ran a neapolitian once maybe I forgot

[Comus]

I have ausuka as hard town now, incidentally

This worries me but for the sake of peace I'll hear you out in the future. Ausuka hasn't pushed anyone today, except the retrograde explanation of her 'read' on me after I had to push her for any reason(Kokichi and Elsa are worse here maybe, I'll admit.)

Because I'm okay with you and maybe skygazer as of now and you both have Ausuka as village I'll try to keep an open mind I guess but have to warn you in turn that... I don't know. Something major feels off. Ugh we'll see.

[Comus]

Neopolitian actually specifically only checks if your a vanilla townie, not just vanilla in general. A VC would get a positive on a regular goon for example. I think I read on the wiki a plain SK also comes up as vanilla?

Actually you're right my bad. Ran a neapolitian once maybe I forgot

Ah the reason I forgot was that is was a mafia neapolitan, so functioned as van cop basically.

[Comus]

Menalques post made to Kokochi Oma is solid solving.

[Comus]

Menalque in fact is solving more than most people lele

[Comus]

Comus - VT
KawaiiKame - hider
ausuka - loud visionary
Elsa Jay -

Cop

Jailkeeper??? and maybe clear on Gimli ???
Enchant - had claimed

bodyguard

but i am making the assumption now that isn't true

Elsa - was visited by unknown player - confirmed to be Asuku by Elsa

VOTE: Menalque
sorry, i know this isn't where anyone else is but i just can't see how this doesn't have a higher than anyone else chance of being scum

Menalque locktown.

You don't even know about Klick's claim, I didn't tell you at first but fuck they still ain't there. Compulsive visitor..and twice you have failed to note down Gimli, who claimed VT before you started these lists. And enchant hard claimed VT. After a vig claim related to magical girl death.

Geaintm... I don't know. Scum or town, don't care. They're glossing over this game.

I ain't trusting anyone who doesn't have their head in the game. Not on Menalque, who's doing leaugues more than gera. Menalque is in fact scumhunting. As menalque focused on Enchant, trying to communicate, geraintm tunneled menalque. Now geraintm comes with the vote. Says as good a chance as any. Doesn't have a grip on game state. Well let's see where it goes.

what claim by Klick?
the game is 2250 posts long, i was sure i would miss something (exp day 1 i was skimming a lot) and i did ask people to point out any i missed.
you are using that against me as scummy??
because i asked for help in getting a good list and you chose to not?

i dread the next time we play in a game together.

Yeah Day 1. Klick claimed directly upon subbing in. Like, easy to find in ISO. I said I don't care if you're town or scum. Just that with so many gaps in your perception I'm not tuusting any of your reads or pushes, this menalque one absolutely no way in hades.

And Im probably breaking from mafia for a loooooong time after this so don't worry ya'll won't have to deal with me.

[Comus]

@ comus - i can't find the gimli claim, sorry

Start day 2-ish. Then again when Enchant claims vt. Two times as memory serves.

[Comus]

And above : /

[Comus]

Klick - Town Compulsive Visitor.
Comus - VT
KawaiiKame - hider
ausuka - loud visionary
Elsa Jay -

Cop

Jailkeeper??? and maybe clear on Gimli ???
enchant claims vt (after also claiming bodyguard)
gimli claims vt
Elsa - was visited by unknown player - both Asuku and Kawaii said they visited on Night 1

(this isn't me trying to force people to claim btw, it is just somewhere for me to stick all them down because i forget or miss them)

Enchant claimed they vig killed Magical Girl at immediate start of Day 2, idk might be important later. Doesn't have to be on list I guess but following that I had enchant as goon in my solve, enchant later claimed vt.

[Comus]

Menalque in fact is solving more than most people lele

This is accurate and I think you're town for this observation and similar ones

I appreciate this. I'm leaning toward Elsa and Kokichi today. I'd like your perspective on them when you're able.

[Comus]

Thanks Klick

[Comus]

Ausuka: Uh yeah Klick those four people are you like actually scumreading them after all your nice posst, and after sort of clearing gazer(never said this btw) and after all teh obviou reading you did to reach your scumreads and tell us more!(Ignores what menalque asked Kokichi about readslist, Kokichi as of yet has no response.)

Also Ausuka: Oh yeah Comus is my top scumread, like, get Comus

Comus: who else?

Ausuka: Comus is my top scumread. I won't be discussing who else can be scum. But everytime anyone townreads Comus I'll be there to say 'No how can you bub Comus baaaad' be sure of that.

Comus: who else?

Ausuka:

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I'm sorry Klick, menalque, skygazer, whoever is village and have ausuka as village(pretty much everyone has at this point) but I still have Ausuka as solid possible wolf.

Elsa/Kokichi/Ausuka ** Kokichi/Ausuka/Enchant possible in my mind. I'm willing to listen to Klick on Enchant/Elsa/kokichi though in my gut I'm not so sure on that one?

I'm willing to vote out either Kokichi or Elsa, im where I was when last spoke to Klick. Not voting Ausuka because in the weird topsy turvy goofy woofy reality where's she's not a wolf her role might actually end up being useful.

By actions alone though(Ausuka says this is how she judges people, I love her radio silence on Elsa and Kokichi) Ausuka is still very much in my can be wolf pile.

[Comus]

I am increasingly convinced you are not reading my posts

[Comus]

Had a big post ready when power cut out. I'll redux. And it was such a banger of a post too. Ah well. Sad.
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Ausuka keeps throwing magic words like 'bad faith' and 'purposeful' in to the ring.

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There is no bad faith here. My purpose is quite simple, rational. Ausuka pushes Comus knowing he's town. Ausuka doesn't push Gimli, at all, knows he 's town. Ausuka subtly tries to undermine Klick's reads (Elsa, Enchant, Kokichi) because Klick is bleeding obvious town at this point.

This is how I am reading things, I believe Ausuka has been solely on town today. From my viewpoint that's bad. There's no bad faith in such a push. Let's say Ausuka is town, and the above certainty of alignment I sense is false. Even then I'll go after these pushes, I'll defend who I believe to be green.

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Ausuka hard ignores topics of Elsa and Kokichi. It's not even funny anymore.

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Latter Day 1, when Kokichi had heat and fakeclaimed vig, Ausuka was instrumental in the deflation of that wagon.

Day 2, one of the most interesting moments is when Ausuka votes Elsa then immediately votes Klick again. My votes on Elsa came soon after that.... I wonder why.

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Ausuka's push on me is easily debunked. I had a long long explanation of this in original post but whatevs. I'll keep it basic.

Comus been sus of Elsa since page 2.
Comus calls patterns between kawaii/elsa day 1.
Comus sus of Ausuka/Kokichi end day one.
Comus sus of Ausuka/Kokichi/Enchant start day 2.
Latter three push on Elsa claim.
Comus thinks 'hey maybe Elsa is town look who pushes her'
Comus steps away, reads. Sense kawaii/Elsa tone. Sees how Ausuka votes elsa, them back to klick. No klick push.
Comus votes Elsa.
Ausuka votes Comus.
Comus calls Ausuka/Elsa/Kawaii
Kokichi votes Comus.
Elsa.votes Comus

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I had to push Ausuka for narative on my vote. Narrative is me changing my reads. Remains current narrative, along with 'bad faith' and 'purposeful'.

Ausuka started day with Gimli vote. No push on Gimli from her has been actual, or felt geniune, in fact she only now talks about Gimli.and acts like she has been on that all day. All there is between now and start of day vote is hollow knight banter.

It took a long while to get Ausuka to give any narrative on my vote at all. And that narrative is utterly flawed, basic, and from my perspective the kind of nebelous thing a wolf would latch onto to push someone they want gone rather than town doing actual scumhunting. The sus, reasoning on Gimli, why gimli scum, simply isn't there. No other pushes

[Comus]

(Continued pressed submit)

*sigh* I miss my og post.

No other pushes on anyone else. Ausuka afraid to commit and townspew, is my current working theory. Kokichi readslist follows much the same dogma.

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I'm rather serious in considering Kokichi/Elsa/Ausuka.

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I mean it does sound a bit insane to me that all three wolves are on me but hey *shrug* life is interesting.

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I believe I have a pretty solid towncore. All of them are rightly sus on Kokichi and Elsa. Ausuka keeps ignoring the bad about those slots. That's enough for me to have her as possible wolf, her actions added, tone, positioning, I'm happy with having her as probable wolf. No amount of 'bad faith' calls will change actual patterns I notice, and behavior that in my experience tends to come from scum.
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I'll stop boring ya'll now.

[Comus]

Come back to me once you're willing to discuss Elsa and Kokichi.

[Comus]

Whatever.

[Comus]

Klick is townlock. Gimli basically a townlock. Kokichi needs to adress what menalque said. Doesn't. Menalque townlock. I'm inclined to trust Gimli on Enchant. I do think sky seems town but eh not a lock. I have no strong impression on geraintm, seems town by intent but doesn't push.

Kawaii is my friend.


Ausuka's push on me is in bad faith.

My sentiments, rationale, are pretty much summed up in the above post. Ausuka will pick and choose what she interacts with. Ausuka can't explain why Kokichi is town, won't. I'm not going to beat a dead horse. I'm happy with a kokichi flip. I'd like some input from Elsa.

Don't see the need to say more, I rationally believe Ausuka can be scum here and no argument anyone has put forward for why she's not has been adequate up to this point.

I might deign to analyze the Kokichi wagon and fakeclaim day one at a later date, might not.

Overall I've said my say.

[Comus]

Kokichi needs to adress what menalque said. Dead horse beaten, mike drop, Comus out.

[Comus]

Browser saved it here's og(uncompleted) post for anyone wanting to waste their time, pretty much said this already.

Spoiler:

Ausuka keeps throwing magic words like 'bad faith' and 'purposeful' out there.

Things are quite simple here.

Ausuka pushes Comus, only Comus. Starts with Gimli vote, then Klick vote(had it Day 1 there as well), then Comus vote. Once she votes Comus, declines to state who else she is willing to vote today.

Only after a long time, lots of pressing, does Ausuka say: Oh okay, I'm looking at Gimli for scum as well. Doesn't really press Gimli, on anything. Merely banters with Klick about Hollow Knight, no real push. Whenever menalque, stargazer or Klikc say they think Comus is town however, Ausuka is quick to weave counter-narrative, using the same thing: "Comus changed mind."

The general feeling I'm getting from these pushes is that Ausuka knows Gimli and Comus are town. Knows Klick is town as well, tries to subtly undermines Klick's reads(Klick has Elsa, Kokichi and Enchant in POE btw)

Ausuka keeps dodging the topic of Kokichi and Elsa behavior. Like hard dodge. It's not even funny anymore.

Ausuka's narrative regarding her vote on me is easily debunked, and considering the narrative came only long after the vote, after I had to press Ausuka for any reasoning, this looks worse. I've been suspicious of Elsa since page 2. Kawaii/Elsa associatives? Day 1.

End day one, was suspicious of Ausuka/Kokichi. Start Day 2, Ausuka/Enchant/Kokichi. All three questioned Elsa claim. I figure wow, Elsa might be town here, my three scumreads are gunning for her. Go on break from thread, read what people are saying, decide ok I think it's Elsa/Kawaii/Ausuka. I vote Elsa, Ausuka immediately votes me. Kokichi piles on. Elsa is convinced. From then on, Comus tunnel. Hyper Comus tunnel. But only on one factor, the one excuse Ausuka thinks she might get away with. Saying Gimli is scum is merely lip service at this point. the undermining of Klick is kept sublte and on the dl right now because Klikc is bleeding obvious town.

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This is not a bad faith push. I'm completely fucking serious. Purposeful, yes, but not in the way Ausuka is trying to insinuate. I believe what I'm saying is very rational and based on a pattern of actions coming from Day 1. End Day 1, Ausuka was a motive factor in deflating suspicion on Kokichi when Kokichi fake claimed vig.

[Comus]

yeah Ausuka I'm pretty much ignoring what you're saying. my posts might be long but i'm reasoning things out. you're just stuck in a loop. i don't deal with that.

I have my towncore, you're not in it.

[Comus]

before I read your posts now i just don't care

[Comus]

VOTE: Kokichi

I'm all on board with limming Kokichi today. I do think it can be as simple as Kokichi/Ausuka/Enchant.

VOTE: Elsa Jay

just because I want to see some reasoning.

I'll hammer kokichi in a heartbeat.

[Comus]

before I read your posts now i just don't care

I mean by a very technical definition of reading my posts maybe

Oh my fucking gods leave me alone. Don't talk to me. If you think I'm scum hunt me. Otherwise, don't interact with me. I'm done, I have my towncore, I'm waiting for Elsa.

Leave me alone.

[Comus]

And by hunt me I mean talk with others, try to convince them. I'm done interacting with you, this is gonna cause me to go angry places and I'm not going angry places.

don't interact with me.

[Comus]

im vig still btw

You retracted this claim claim Day one. I choose not to believe you. And if you flip vig, I won't care. Menalque is on point, your readslist is shit, that's not a town perspective, you don't want to address it. Claim vig once? Yeah I was willing to unvote. Twice? Screw your lies.

@Elsa: Please expand on your Kokichi vote when you are next online.

VOTE: Kokichi Oma

I don't care.

[Comus]

im vig still btw

so what happened to your shot?

I'll give you one guess

kokichi is gonna claim even night. Frankly, with your vote parked on me, whatever. I'm voting you. You had your chance.

[Comus]

I'm also leaving the thread. I wanted to wait for Elsa to weigh in on her vote but Kokichi isn't helping here. If kokichi at least talked with me an menalque I would've been more chill.

Claim vig again? I'm in a bad mood and I'm gonna make thinbgs miserable for everyone. But I'll vote Kokichi. I'm sticking with this gun.

[Comus]

E-2. I'm town. You claimed and retracted Day 1. You don't communicate. You had your chance. Goodbye.

[Comus]

VOTE: Elsa Jay

I don't give a fuck anymore. Enchant/Ausuka/Kokichi is a viable team. Really fucking viable, so many associatives.

Enchant's tone feels good here. Elsa's doesn't.

Kokichi is a liar. Kokichi looks horrible. I sorely want to hammer Kokichi.

Enchant feels town, reasonable. Enchant/Ausuka/Kokichi is an excellent solve.

Elsa is a liar. Enchant is liar but a funny one.

Yeah. I don't give a fuck anymore. The reason I'm voting Elsa is so no one hammers Kokichi yet. Ya'll need time to get ya'lls shit straight. Whatever. Hopefully I feel better about this later. Right now I'm pretty nihilistic about both wagons and feel like voting whoever.

[Comus]

Comus is scum.

Comus>Elsa

You want me to vote kokichi? get real or shut up

[Comus]

Ok i take it back, i thought you hammered Kokichi

Damn deep night

Ok sorry about the ABOVE i thought u were goiung after me cois.... whatever. *sigh*


Good night >.<

[Comus]

Klick still suck though.

Klikc remains my locktown. I....... I'm not friendly rn. Maybe better later. Ugh Klick I'll check I guess but Kokichi is sorta looking bad still ngl.

[Comus]

Nah i misread vote.

I supposed to sleep... Uh like 10 hours ago

Yup me too. Good night/morning

[Comus]

I don't even know whether I'm optimistic anymore.

[Comus]

hmmm idk what the scum team would look like with these reads but I think at least this means skygazer is nearly always scum?

Not sure about this btw, how if Elsa is scum that means sky is scum. She's felt pretty sincere in believing Elsa is scum all day. If I'm still alive we'll see I guess.

Have good monkey dreams Gimli and everyone else

[Comus]

Sadly Elsa might not be trolling here. This sucks. If Elsa VT my town reads might be rank shit and I'll honestly feel I don't want to try anymore.

I'm trusting Enchant claim but whatever. Basically all i trust at this point.

I don't know whether Kokichi is vig. There's only one way to find out.

If I were kokichi vig regardless of elsa flip I'd kill Klick or geraintm. maybe gimli, but only on elsa green flip. wouldn't care. skygazer? for some reason, no. not seeing scum there yet.

Kokichi if you're vig and you shoot me I won't cry.


Mafia is such tiresome bullshit.

[Comus]

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Village:

Enchant. Hard lock, only lock.
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Wolf:

I don't like Klick. Basically it.
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Don't know, don't fucking care:

Everyone else.
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Elsa probable VT, if Elsa isn't town, the above is amended thusly: Klick hard wolf if kokichi vig, or town. If Kokichi red I'll strongly reconsider.

That's all. I'm pretty much over this game. Sorry.

[Comus]

haha thats my line!

this game is hard enough and elsa made it unnecessarily tough I think... I bet this flips vt

It's the truth. I'm a compulsive neurological masochist at this point, only way I see it. Time to stop.

[Comus]

I could target Gimli

Visionary

Spoiler:

Each Night, a Visionary may notify a player of the types of actions that targeted them (other than the Visionary's action) according to Natural Action Resolution/Normal Game. If their action succeeds, the Visionary's target will be given a list of the types of actions that targeted them (except for the Visionary's action)

This can indicate klick is scum and knows enchant will be targeted, might be townspew of both Enchant and Ausuka, moreso Enchant, even Kokichi! As in: Klick needs role to be confirmed, but not on probable mafia NK target, knowing alignments and PT. Might even townspew Gimli, but that's a reach. what the fuck ever.

Visionary on me if possible.

Optimistic. If Kokichi is a vig(or even other town, or scum) they'll just kill you at this point and Ausuka's action will be pointless. It still makes some sense however so whatever, you're my villager, the only one I care for. i hope you survive.

i'll target enchant, just to confirm, since implo could lock the thread at any time

I'm not going to bother speculating anymore. Confirming Klick achieves little in my eyes, by action if kokichi green, regardless of elsa red or green, Klick seems wolf. Ausuka did say it can be a scum role Day 1 and i didn't believe so *shrug*

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I'm done trying to be useful. Leave me to fester in peace.

[Comus]

That's all. I'm pretty much over this game. Sorry.

if you're who I think you are, don't be done with the game. don't do what you did in HMS after HPE flipped. I do think we're gonna end up eventually flipping scum on d3! keep your hopes up

Regardless of who I am my mood isn't good today. That bleeds in. If I survive I'll try but I doubt I'll be as active or invested, that's honest truth. The above analysis on klick i like, way klick acts about kokichi e-1 i bad esp if kokichi vig, enchant is village lock, beyond that my brain doesn't care right now. time might heal wounds so whatever.

Have fun

[Comus]

I am less dangerous than Vig.

o shit yeah you can't heal vig XD Fuck so my point about Klick has less merit.... UNLESS.... Scum knows Kokichi ain't vig, or kokichi is scum!

Am I onto something Enchant? Blergh.

have fun

[Comus]

But I don't believe klick and kokichi are scum together..... so scum can have roleblocker, and keep vig blocked while kill you, or scum has rolecop, and know kokichi not vig. All this for Klick wolf, which I'm believing. Ugh. Too many speculatives.

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Bye.

[Comus]

^ @Enchant

[Comus]

I agree with your leans on enchant and on klick fwiw. I didn't really wanna say but I think klick is getting increasingly suspicious and if elsa flips town POE is gonna hit his slot hard imo

If Kokichi = town, Klick wolf, regardles of Elsa flip, is where I'm at.
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