Mini Normal 2294: Monkey Business (Endgame)

[Kokichi Oma]

Hi. I'm here. Totally not scum this game. Nope.

[Kokichi Oma]

Hi. I'm here. Totally not scum this game. Nope.

Why do I feel like your gonna steal my normal gimmick this game of doing stuff like this? Then again, you literally picked a known liar as your name. So eh.

I don't think I've played with you, so I wouldn't know what your normal gimmick is. And if I'm a known liar, shouldn't that mean I'm scum then?

[Kokichi Oma]

How about we get serious then?



That's enough RVS for now. Who has had the worst opening so far and why?

[Kokichi Oma]

I'd rather someone put pressure on someone early rather than be joking around for as long as possible.

[Kokichi Oma]

No time for joking. One would say there is no time for any Monkey Business.

[Kokichi Oma]

Enchant I am giving you a buffer of 20 pages to do something really towny before I vote you.

[Kokichi Oma]

That's enough RVS for now. Who has had the worst opening so far and why?

Yours because V3 is a horrible game.

I have 3 easy townreads and 1 not-so-easy townread.
Well, townread enough for this early anyway.

What one usually does when they say they have townreads is tell who those townreads are.

[Kokichi Oma]

I think we should kill elsa jay and magical girl so i will remain as only magical user here

It seems better to make a temporary alliance then instead? We can kill each other after the mortals disappear.

I am also a magical user. Let me in!

[Kokichi Oma]

There are a lot of people outing townreads already, I'm not quite there yet I think

[Kokichi Oma]

scummy entrance

I think you misread, as I stated I am NOT scum this game. Hope this helps!

[Kokichi Oma]

I'm still willing to give enchant 9 more pages before I think he's scum. The game I played with him he only did one thing that was towny, but it was so obviously towny that it made him obvious town.

[Kokichi Oma]

Is your memory really that short?

[Kokichi Oma]

I was planning to push on you, but then you did that thing, and you were obvious town. Even as scum you're trying to see who is towny or not. So that's not valid.

[Kokichi Oma]

I was planning to push on you, but then you did that thing, and you were obvious town. Even as scum you're trying to see who is towny or not. So that's not valid.

What thing? The readlist?

What?

[Kokichi Oma]

No one is scumreading me yet. Why aren't I getting scumreads? I've hardly done anything to solve the game. Shouldn't someone be picking on me already?

[Kokichi Oma]

Don't worry I'm sure if you keep doing nothing people will decide to kick you out at some point!

[Kokichi Oma]

VOTE: Ausuka

Easy

[Kokichi Oma]

Oma-Sama plz. Grace the mortals with your knowledge of the scum team. You clearly stole the information while the Mod wasn't looking. At least one of them for now, please.

Simple. I put into the air that I wasn't doing anything. So the first person to put my name into a list when talking to someone else, is scum trying to include me in a group. Scumreading directly with that post is different since it's more direct, but doing so without is suspect.

[Kokichi Oma]

No one is scumreading me yet. Why aren't I getting scumreads? I've hardly done anything to solve the game. Shouldn't someone be picking on me already?

UNVOTE: Nono
VOTE: Kokichi

is this a joke post? because we should be past joke and a rando votes by now

Based on the little I know Kawaii, I think that post was legit. My question is why would you automatically assume it was a joke vote?

[Kokichi Oma]

kokichi: playing too much from the sidelines when kokichi loooooves the attention might be a scum thing

scummy post, as he's seen me as town and scum do attention grabbing things. For him to auto assume being on the sidelines is scum is weird.

[Kokichi Oma]

it does have that "I'm so smart, no one would believe Scum would post this" vibe to it, i will give you that

I feel like you could have come to this conclusion yourself instead of auto assuming it was a joke vote. It wasn't that hard.

[Kokichi Oma]

I feel it's like, "I'm scum, please notice me senpai," but close to the same idea, if not scum, town who wants to be noticed as potential scum? In confusion with the play

Kawaii town

[Kokichi Oma]

the elsa jay wagon is horrible imo. even if she is scum, seems like a wasteful flip when there's this pool of scummy slots to pick from.

I agree with the first part, at least I don't see why she's scum at the moment.

[Kokichi Oma]

The wagon is at E3 and we have a week left why are people acting like we are imminently going to murder elsa

True, but it's fair for people to question why that person is getting the most votes so far. Why is that weird?

[Kokichi Oma]

Also there probably is indeed scum in the lurkers but I don't understand why we care right now. Like we will probably end up dogpiling kokichi or something at the day end but right now maybe we should try and play with the people we actually have?

Yep, scum. My theory is correct.

[Kokichi Oma]

I guess kokichi is slightly worse because he makes some posts and they are useless as opposed to not posting at all but like the smug thing is just some alt gimmick which I don't care about

When Ausuka flips scum, reminder that my tactics are the best.

[Kokichi Oma]

I'm tossing that TR I had on ausuka

I feel like the focus on kokichi is bad amongst the lurkers since dio and enchant are scummier

Yikes, you might be town for catching onto this too.



Maybe you were genuinely confused by my play since you haven't see it before, but I still have my eye on you.

[Kokichi Oma]

I can't believe you're PICKING my words like this why don't you look at me posting things and advancing the game which makes me automatically town

Overreaction to someone saying they are tossing a townread this early.

[Kokichi Oma]

Who cares if someone sees you as town? You're trying to catch scum remember?

[Kokichi Oma]

I guess kokichi is slightly worse because he makes some posts and they are useless as opposed to not posting at all but like the smug thing is just some alt gimmick which I don't care about

also there's no way this is a real scumhunting post

I'm tossing that TR I had on ausuka

I feel like the focus on kokichi is bad amongst the lurkers since dio and enchant are scummier

Lmfao

VOTE: Gimli

I'm sorry there is no fucking way this is a real read

Weird post reaction imo. Kinda using what he said against you back at him for a reason to vote at him. Why would you get so upset at him when he was throwing away his townread of you, if you thought it was a possibility he's scum?

[Kokichi Oma]

Or maybe it's the posting no actual content that is the roleplaying? Am I meant to think that's not scum indicative but some newbie who posted like one time and then dipped is definitely scum, and I should be voting for them and if I don't I'm scum

terrible defense, especially when I have more posts than you by about 3000. Shouldn't you be considered the newbie then? I think this is a fake defense made up on the spot and not actual read.

[Kokichi Oma]

gera wrote 'in the name of ending d1 as quickly as possible' and 'follow the wisdom of the crowd'

the reaction from kame and elsa are absolutely warranted and I don't know if you're acting dense or I'm misinterpreting your post here.

i don't see why i am getting shade for voting the longest wagon. why is my vote worse than all those who have preceded me?

Better question than before. But still meh. Still have this as null.

[Kokichi Oma]

Last two pages are garbage.

I think there is a lot to see from the last 2 pages if you look into them. Weird you're just trying to call them off as garbage.

[Kokichi Oma]

It's okay, I like that post you just posted. You're safe.

...For now.

[Kokichi Oma]

Last two pages are garbage.

I think there is a lot to see from the last 2 pages if you look into them. Weird you're just trying to call them off as garbage.

Maybe a feast for you, who is apparently attempting some sort of slayers gambit. Garbage for me because those back and forths are otherwise from view differences.

What do you think of Ausuka

[Kokichi Oma]

Oma-Sama plz. Grace the mortals with your knowledge of the scum team. You clearly stole the information while the Mod wasn't looking. At least one of them for now, please.

Simple. I put into the air that I wasn't doing anything. So the first person to put my name into a list when talking to someone else, is scum trying to include me in a group. Scumreading directly with that post is different since it's more direct, but doing so without is suspect.

I don't think it needed putting in the air

If you're feeling froggy, leap

[Kokichi Oma]

Last two pages are garbage.

I think there is a lot to see from the last 2 pages if you look into them. Weird you're just trying to call them off as garbage.

Maybe a feast for you, who is apparently attempting some sort of slayers gambit. Garbage for me because those back and forths are otherwise from view differences.

What do you think of Ausuka

Read my wall post :^)

Yikes, if nothing in the last few pages made you change your mind even a bit. If Ausuka flips scum, I will be looking at you more closely

[Kokichi Oma]

That being said having read up it's pretty obvious that you are deciding my posts are scum before you read them regardless of alignment so shrug

Weak defense. Make better posts and I won't scumread them. Gimli is scumreading them too before I even posted.

[Kokichi Oma]

As I said, last 3 pages were garbage :^)

So you're saying Ausuka's defense saying that they thought I was just a newbie is not made up? When you think someone is a newbie you look at their posts or date they joined. But I have more posts than them

[Kokichi Oma]

So currently the five people I'd vote are: Nono, Enchant, Gera, Gimli, and ... I guess Dionysus.

Not putting my name in there. Are you afraid I'd just vote you since I seem unpredictable?

[Kokichi Oma]

I'd be willing to settle on Enchant. But, I think Ausuka is scum too so

[Kokichi Oma]

If for some reason we had a vig, I think shooting Enchant would be a decent shot though.

[Kokichi Oma]

killing ausuka d1 will be too much drama

I see this as an absolute win

[Kokichi Oma]

where's the frog person i permatownread and who is the single person they'd like me to not vote today

unfortunately frog person leaped over to the scummy side. might want to reconsider

[Kokichi Oma]

Why do I feel like this game will not go well for us and scum will win

[Kokichi Oma]

Kokichi you actually solving yet or are you stalling until day 2?

I've already gave 2 scumreads. Enchant and Ausuka. Not sure why you're trying to discredit me as doing nothing

[Kokichi Oma]

Kokichi seems to have given up.

Weird post. What is this in reference to?

[Kokichi Oma]

Why do I feel like this game will not go well for us and scum will win

I hope you town and not attempt to disengage a scum elimination but this feels town, Idk if scum likes to get in town's head like this but it feels like a town fear

I would do this as scum or town. Never trust me.

[Kokichi Oma]

Elsa says I'm not solving, then failed to respond to my scumreads. Hmmm

[Kokichi Oma]

Kokichi seems to have given up.

Weird post. What is this in reference to?

Why do I feel like this game will not go well for us and scum will win

I'm weird? I am weird. But you not getting the reference after saying something so defeatist is, well, strange. Quite strange.

Why respond to the post saying I'm not outing any reads, when I did out reads. Why not just reply to me directly?

[Kokichi Oma]

Kokichi: Aaaaah SCUM WILL WIN

Comus: Kokichi has given up

Kokichi: Uh why say weird thing?

Comus: Lol

Kokichi: Aaaaaah aaaah aaaaah (something about outing reads)

Quote my posts when you make sense. Otherwise don't

You're funny. You remind me of somebody that I used to know

[Kokichi Oma]

I'm not reading! I thought that was a Kokichi vote

You can't get rid of me that easily. I feel like me and you will have a good friendship this game. Hopefully starting as early as tomorrow.



Exciting right?

[Kokichi Oma]

Don't you know mafia 101. You buddy up to the so called 'towniest' person so then they eventually see you as town and you'll never get voted out. Works all the time. Comus what do you think of Ausuka?

[Kokichi Oma]

It seems Gimli is at E-1 now right?

[Kokichi Oma]

Nevermind E-2 I thought there were 11 people

[Kokichi Oma]

Gimli if you get to E-1 I will quick hammer you. What say you?

[Kokichi Oma]

you're townreading me, why would you do that?

I said you might be town. But, besides that. I love hammering. Or who knows, maybe I have a hidden agenda

[Kokichi Oma]

He's just a Not_Mafia copycat, ignore it. But still try and not be at E-1.

Another post of discredit, yet not responding to my posts with reads at you. You're a suspect.

[Kokichi Oma]

VOTE: Elsa Jay

Time for us to let it goooooo. Let it goooooo

[Kokichi Oma]

Scum love to discredit

[Kokichi Oma]

I was always a Komaeda fan more then an Oma fan anyways.

Then you wouldn't mind becoming a stepping stone in the hunt for despair?

[Kokichi Oma]

He's just a Not_Mafia copycat, ignore it. But still try and not be at E-1.

I've done what I could, I'm not gonna convince some players that I'm town and after I flip they'll go 'well he was playing weird' and will never reeval or read or care about me anymore

but I don't want this non comittal 'can I cap you' bullshit from kokichi. I'm not chopped liver.

Why are you acting surprised? This is like keeping a pet crocodile and then being shocked when it tries to bite you

Wonderful time for you to leap back in the thread froggy. I had a feeling this post would catch your interest, I wonder why.

[Kokichi Oma]

You just aren't good enough to kill me.

I feel like this will be ironic very soon.

[Kokichi Oma]

Considering the top 3 people being voted aren't flakers, why the need to announce that?

[Kokichi Oma]

Annnnd there's scum or lazy town vote parking already. Wonderful.

This is your punishment for discrediting me. A day 1 elim

[Kokichi Oma]

you know what happens when we sell ourselves cheap in mafia game

we get wagoned
we get eliminated
people betray us
people meme wagon us
people meme hammer us

its not a great thing

your vote is valuable you should like, sell it, instead of giving it to people for NAI reasons

What do you think about voting Elsa?

[Kokichi Oma]

Well that's just a silly vote

[Kokichi Oma]

I think we just vote Elsa or Ausuka

[Kokichi Oma]

Ausuka is probably not getting voted out today which is sad, but Elsa has a good chance so I think go there

[Kokichi Oma]

Ausuka is probably not getting voted out today which is sad, but Elsa has a good chance so I think go there

its sad that we still have 2 players away from keyboard, no way we can go to night just in case either has a role which we need them to use tonight

Sure we can. We just do it

[Kokichi Oma]

Ok, we could do it but it would be 100% irresponsible. Day 1 don't matter, but night 1 does and we can't afford to miss any night actions

Why do you assume they are town and can't be scum?
Interesting..

[Kokichi Oma]

Maybe we should just vote you

I guarantee you'd be voted out before I ever will be. But feel free to try, frogger

[Kokichi Oma]

Yeah, Elsa is scum. Just vote that.

[Kokichi Oma]

Were they even E-2 when they claimed?

[Kokichi Oma]

We don't need a cop even if they are one with Ausuka scumclaiming all day 1. But, I think their claim was scummy. Trying to buy time and fish for PRs

[Kokichi Oma]

Were they even E-2 when they claimed?

E-3 but gerain was most likely going to hop on with more traction

Yeah that's a terrible claim then. Vote Elsa

[Kokichi Oma]

ausuka probs town

Yikes

[Kokichi Oma]

imagine sending a broken ass MQ thats 90% filler talk and then act all insulted when someone calls you up on it

I can somewhat see this line of reasoning but like, even if it wasn't intended this way MG's post kinda does read like it's shitting on her style rather than calling her scum

Meanwhile kokichi's whole thing was 'doing nothing and then acting like it's a smoking gun when someone calls you up on it' (and while it's not exactly the same iirc kokichi did something pretty similar to elsa)

I don't see why you think salsa is scum and kokichi isn't

Because I didnt do this, I explained what I did. And I did not do this to Elsa.

[Kokichi Oma]

saying you are doing nothing in the thread does not change the fact you are doing nothing

How can I be doing nothing when I caught you as scum

[Kokichi Oma]

I was directly answering Elsa's questions and they chose to ignore and then discredit. Thus why it is different.

[Kokichi Oma]

You threatened to hammer someone you didn't scumread at e-1 and then act like being called a not_mafia copycat is unreasonable?

Yes, I am not a perfect person. I can be wrong with my scumreads

[Kokichi Oma]

So currently the five people I'd vote are: Nono, Enchant, Gera, Gimli, and ... I guess Dionysus.

Not putting my name in there. Are you afraid I'd just vote you since I seem unpredictable?

I'd be willing to settle on Enchant. But, I think Ausuka is scum too so

Kokichi you actually solving yet or are you stalling until day 2?

I've already gave 2 scumreads. Enchant and Ausuka. Not sure why you're trying to discredit me as doing nothing

Elsa says I'm not solving, then failed to respond to my scumreads. Hmmm

By the way, this was all before the post you're trying to say was the reason. Not sure if you missed it or just trying to spin a narrative.

[Kokichi Oma]

You threatened to hammer someone you didn't scumread at e-1 and then act like being called a not_mafia copycat is unreasonable?

Yes, I am not a perfect person. I can be wrong with my scumreads

VOTE: Kokichi

P-Please d-don't vote me..! I'm n-not scum!!

[Kokichi Oma]

It makes no sense but isn't the kind of thing which is like impossible for town to believe so not worth distracting from the more important point

I don't get what you're saying here. They basically asked what my reads are, and then I responded with them. Then just ignored it. They could have replied, instead they replied to other stuff, which makes it look like they were just trying to paint me as doing nothing

[Kokichi Oma]

No Oma, your doing the thing I do when I'm bored and act scummy to get people to interact with you. That's townie.

By the way, they posted this BEFORE saying that I was doing nothing. Soooo

[Kokichi Oma]

Do you want a cookie for doing a basic townie thing? And that's only 2 people. Do more.

Wrong. 3 now including you

[Kokichi Oma]

Of the people that are actually talking regularly, I've given a read about them. Except Magical Girl

[Kokichi Oma]

So painting me as doing nothing when you can see that in my iso, then seems like a fake read to me.

[Kokichi Oma]

Yeah, voting the cop claim sure does help your case there buddy. You get a broccoli cookie for your efforts.

[Kokichi Oma]

do i have any town reads? um

kinda like ausuka, magical girl, gera

33% isn't bad

[Kokichi Oma]

Are we waiting for more replacements

[Kokichi Oma]

Yeah I was totally town there.

*ISOs to see what I was doing*

Clearly town yeah.

[Kokichi Oma]

next time I roll scum I'm doing the kokichi strategy

The true key is doing it as town and scum so you're always read as town.

[Kokichi Oma]

I think kawaii should not go today. I think he's probably town actually

[Kokichi Oma]

Your claiming that to kill me fuck off. Nobody actually CC's day 1.

Is this why you thought it would be safe to fake claim day 1

[Kokichi Oma]

I pretty much dislike kawaii's posts now

koki why are you clearing him? walk me through that read pls

He looks just like a new player trying to solve is the best way I can put it

[Kokichi Oma]

Your claiming that to kill me fuck off. Nobody actually CC's day 1.

They definitely do

I mean enchant isn't but that is a bad mindset to have imo

Outting yourself day 1 to CC is crappy because even if you CC scum you just get yourself killed and town loses a PR who gets no results dying night 1. No townie should ever CC day 1 if they're investigative so they can actually use their role and not die.

Someone should put this in a dictionary next to irony

[Kokichi Oma]

Elsa you actually solving yet or are you stalling until day 2?

[Kokichi Oma]

At work talk later Comus Nep

This is the main thread not your scum pt btw.

[Kokichi Oma]

What the Farnsworth??????


just Kill Gimli.

OR Kill Magical Girl, cos, Magical Girl is Magical Girl. Or Kill Elsa. Elsa is obvious Vanilla Town.

I know the people on this site like to kill vanilla town.

Like.

It's a real fun thing thing.

Mafiascum people people kill vanilla town cos................... ((((((((((((((({{{{{{{{{{{EGO}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

So. I'm vanilla town.Elsa is vanilla town. Gimli acts like he's vanilla town.

Two options:

Kill Elsa, a real vanilla town.

Kill Gimli, either a goon or a well........... vanilla town?

Kill Comus, a vanilla confused town.

OR.................

jUST.......

VOTE: No Elimination

EITHER We mkill Gimli, Me, or No One.


Seeing you all/////

We vote no Elimination today!!!!!!!

But if we kill Gimli or me ...... good. Kill Gimli=Maybe get a wolf. Kill Comus = Comus is gone, done, tired, no need to influence and catch wolves. So. Very Important WINE choice. Norns. Odin. Fates. Sepedi, Zulu, Mulungu.

Just vote someone out.

I'm bored.

>votes to no Elim
>says just vote someone out

[Kokichi Oma]

My plan of looking over things got rekt due to busy work thingy. So you'll just get my quick recollection of my mind.
Still a hard no on limming Elsa today.
Kawaii is townposting so still no on that side as well.

If it really happens to swing that way near the end of the day I am willing to jump on Gimli wagon, but that would be not because I scumread him (I think he's like 98% town) but to grant him the sweet release from this game. I think he deserves it.
I'd vote Nono and dionysus slot just to save mod a trouble. Salsabil/STD if it really comes to it.
My lim pool is absolutely garbage atm now that I look at it. I'm probably townreading people for too easy things. But I think at this point I need to see a flip, if only to figure out how easy of a pass I'm giving to people atm. If I consider only the information the flip would provide, Enchant or Elsa flip would be the best. But as I said, I'm not limming Elsa. Enchant's play has gotten better so far for me to not think of him as a vig bait anymore, but so far people who claimed confidence on reading Enchant hasn't been giving me clear answers so far.

Not voting pr claim but willing to vote replacement slots that could be a pr. Interesting

[Kokichi Oma]

Says the one who’s voting a claimed PR :^)

Yes. I'm willing to vote whoever. You're not. That's the difference

[Kokichi Oma]

What’s actually interesting is that you decided to focus on that rather than my intention to wagon Gimli while calling him 98% town

If you can quote me saying gimli's 98% town. I'll sheep your votes all game. If not, you vote the PR claim. Deal?

[Kokichi Oma]

Oh you mean YOU said that. Well that's just silly

[Kokichi Oma]

No Elim is terrible idea

[Kokichi Oma]

Oh we still have over 3 days, why are people acting like we have 1 day left.

[Kokichi Oma]

At work talk later Comus Nep

As some of you joked about this being for a scum PT let me phrase this better.

'im at work and now I'm in trouble for phone posting too much so now I have to turn off my phone. I'll talk to you when I get back. I wanted to discuss with Comus and Nep with the state of the game when I return to help get a read on them again'.

I fell asleep when I got home because apparently I forgot Daylight savings was a thing again and knew I needed to sleep well fory next shift. Bleh.

Anyway Nep also dipped it seems so now I dunno what to do with so many dead slots.

No Lim almost seems stupid enough to work, but that just means scum probably shoots one of the active people we got left. So before that we should get rid of one of the lurker slots I think?

VOTE: Nono

Okay. But if you flip scum we are voting those 2 of course

[Kokichi Oma]

I don’t feel particularly rushed but it’s really hard to coordinate anything in 1 day left in deadline so I prefer coordinating start earlier.

Yeah but for the past 2 days it's been like that. Its weird

[Kokichi Oma]

well that case was a total waste of time rip

It's okay, I read it. All that matters is that you're wrong, but I appreciate the effort

[Kokichi Oma]

I mean, as I said in my case post I think it is mostly that he is playing in a chaotic and counterintuitive way that people think scum wouldn't do, but shrug there probably should be more to it

If I'm being honest, if I was scum I'd be more interested in this game.

[Kokichi Oma]

Frogger my scumread on you has dropped slightly. You are no longer the #1 scumread. You've been demoted to #3 scumread. Congratulations

[Kokichi Oma]

What's your case on unvote? They do look very suspicious I admit.

[Kokichi Oma]

I need to admit that i am not really Cop

I am totally shocked by this revelation. There is no way you'd lie

[Kokichi Oma]

Maybe one day

[Kokichi Oma]

Well that was a waste of time, he was clearly townie

[Kokichi Oma]

Pls explain why you think he is clearly townie

His way of speaking is town, i already posted about this. Catch up froggy

[Kokichi Oma]

4 pages in and I think Ausuka is just scum?

Wow I like this person already

[Kokichi Oma]

Menalque replaces Dionysus

Oh my god this game is lit

Want to vote Ausuka?

[Kokichi Oma]

Elsa is obvmafia but "CoP cLaIm"

Yeah probably but no one will vote her today sadly, so time to move on. Vote Ausuka or I'm likely voting you instead if that's not an option either

[Kokichi Oma]

Elsa is obvmafia but "CoP cLaIm"

Yeah probably but no one will vote her today sadly, so time to move on. Vote Ausuka or I'm likely voting you instead if that's not an option either

Do you try to intimidate me or what

No, I'm just saying Elsa you and Ausuka are my scumreads. one seems off table so I have 2 options to vote.

[Kokichi Oma]

Oh well we can't expect kokichi to keep track of his own read progression when he's too busy coming up with the next sick gambit that will make everyone townread him because ???

I'm guessing reading is hard for you

[Kokichi Oma]

VOTE: Kokichi Oma

lol like i care

I just will claim PR on E-2 and everyone be like "OH NO LET'S NOT KILL ENCHANT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
This is lame but working.

Unfortunate for you, I will vote PR claims as you know VOTE: Enchant

[Kokichi Oma]

Kokichi is too dominant and confident for me to be mad at them or even see them as a wolf but if the two votes before them are from very likely wolves their vote is still bad. Even though they're chill in my eyes.

Why would voting my scumread ever be mad

[Kokichi Oma]

bad*

[Kokichi Oma]

I wish, then people would actually vote her

[Kokichi Oma]

I've literally had the same 3 scumreads all day 1. How do you not know what I'm doing

[Kokichi Oma]

I've literally had the same 3 scumreads all day 1.

Because you are mafia who already dedicated some players as mafia. Changing mind is not in your interests.

I don't think you 3 are mafia together, in fact I think it's highly unlikely you and elsa are a team. But I don't do associatives or anything like that. I just go on who I think is scummiest individually.

[Kokichi Oma]

Apparently being certain on your reads is scummy and flipping on reads is towny. Check any town game i've had completed and you'll see I've mostly tunneled on the same people I think are scummy day 1

[Kokichi Oma]

neither is AI though?

it was sarcasm

[Kokichi Oma]

i mean, to be fair it was a while back, but the last time i played with scum kokichi i read him correctly and pretty sure it was for seeming unreasonable and having fabricated pushes similar to here.

Wait, who are you?

[Kokichi Oma]

Can you link the game at least?

[Kokichi Oma]

I don't feel like that game was similar at all to this one, i literally unvoted my biggest scumread and said they were towny. But you could be bias because of that game.That being said, why was your initial reaction of me being a newb lurker then and possibly town, if you knew I wasn't a new player? or did I read that wrong?

[Kokichi Oma]

I don't think she retracted it

[Kokichi Oma]

lets gooooooooooo another elsa voter

VOTE: elsa

[Kokichi Oma]

It pains me to say, I am taking Ausuka off the table for my vote today. I apologize Klick

[Kokichi Oma]

lets gooooooooooo another elsa voter

VOTE: elsa

Why Elsa over Enchant? And by the gods I hope you have a more thought out answer than 'Oh Elsa is my scumread.'

Enchant I scumread for not doing anything extremely towny. Elsa I scumread because she reads as panicked scum. I first voted her as a sort of meme to post let it goooooo. But after she seems to actually be scum

[Kokichi Oma]

okay, tell me why you're so strong on Elsa being town then? I'm not wedded to the vote but I'm not wedded to anyone yet

No. You push Elsa, I resist. Anyone else does, I resist. Very simple.

At work talk later Comus Nep

would be funny if this is actually a scum slip

[Kokichi Oma]

yeah, I'm down to kill Elsa than, kokichi, how many votes do we have?

If Enchant is willing to vote her again, then 4? I think? I am not sure

[Kokichi Oma]

Comus I am praying for you that it wasn't a scumslip and you're forced to defend Elsa. I would be upset if that was the case.

[Kokichi Oma]

Menalque is my spirit animal. If you end up being scum I'll be sad

[Kokichi Oma]

If you can towncase Elsa sufficiently I will unvote

[Kokichi Oma]

I am not interested anymore.

[Kokichi Oma]

Don't worry, I'll only scumread you if one of those flip scum

[Kokichi Oma]

You just remind me of someone is all. I find you funny to mess with.

[Kokichi Oma]

Why

[Kokichi Oma]

Enchant and Elsa are 2 different people

[Kokichi Oma]

VOTE: Kokichi Oma

Very easy day one wolf find. Here's a horrible perspective flip

At work talk later Comus Nep

This is the main thread not your scum pt btw.

Spoiler:

okay, tell me why you're so strong on Elsa being town then? I'm not wedded to the vote but I'm not wedded to anyone yet

No. You push Elsa, I resist. Anyone else does, I resist. Very simple.

At work talk later Comus Nep

would be funny if this is actually a scum slip

Comus I am praying for you that it wasn't a scumslip and you're forced to defend Elsa. I would be upset if that was the case.

Don't worry, I'll only scumread you if one of those flip scum

Not a villager.

This is a wolf.

Get the wolf!

A villager will be attentive to how their reads function within a general framework, how other people mesh together. A wolf setting themselves up for the future, not much so. A good wolf, almost always, yes, but even a good wolf can be found exactly because they already know almost everything.

Kokichi as a villager would have said "If Elsa flips, I'm looking at you and nepenthe for wolves, Comus." Along those lines.

A wolf doesn't care, either one is good. But a wolf can forget that only Elsa made this 'scumslip.' Forget what it means, from a villager perspective. A wolf is just throwing out shade for now and future times, after all, and is all about positioning. Sometimes people get lazy though. Kokichi got lazy. Kokichi saying that if nepenthe flips wolf they'll look at me is exactly that type of lazy slip that only scum would make. Sometimes being overconfident means you become complacent. This is one of those times.

We can end the day.

Um okay. Have fun with that

[Kokichi Oma]

I find the townreads on kawaii kinda baffling

It's kind of just the tone not content

[Kokichi Oma]

wanna flip std with me?

Kokichi wolfslipped, and I'm like Ausuka, almost never believe in wolfslips. So it's fun to get one on day one.

So no, I'm not in the mood for a



Unless Save the Dragons wants to be flipped

This can't be serious lol

[Kokichi Oma]

UNVOTE: Kokichi Oma

Kokichi Oma I eagerly await your defense.

Why would I need to make a defense? If Elsa flips scum you and that other person she named are likely maf

[Kokichi Oma]

you know what okay

VOTE: kokichi oma

This is a terrible vote. All others so far I can understand their reasoning in voting me, but this was the weakest

[Kokichi Oma]

VOTE: Kokichi

Kawaii votes bad. Don't see why theres votes there. Kokichi dying sounds better then Enchant dying. So if someone has to die it'll be him. Back to lurking I go.

I wonder why you're lurking now....

[Kokichi Oma]

As a person on MafSepia that shiz is hard to read. Why is Comus typing in color again?

this flips wolf

there is no way around it

Let it gooooooo

[Kokichi Oma]

After a few minutes of burning my eyes trying to read Comus' color text. I still don't get what he thinks was a slip

[Kokichi Oma]

Enchant, Elsa's vote make sense. I don't understand Gimli's. And looks opportunistic to something he said wasn't a scumslip

[Kokichi Oma]

Okay, I want to write my thoughts on Gimli here now because I know my vote just looks like an omgus vote. And I mean, that's not *entirely* wrong but the post about me pushing town made something click for me about his treatment of me the entire game.

The thing that made gimli instantly plummet back to the very bottom of my readslist was this;

i think flipping ausuka today is a horrible thing. I'd never really push her, I'd get her later when d1 creates the right associatives.

Is this just the enchant thing or

@comus, I think it's not a particularly unreasonable thing to say in all honesty and I do not believe in slips for the most part

I think you've been pushing townies and defending scum. its enchant but its elsa, its me, maybe its kokichi? idk, we can flip kokichi and figure it out. that's why im saying the associatives will help me with your alignment cause idk what to make of your d1. there are certainly reasons to tr you as well as there are reasons to sr you.

The elephant in the room is that, yeah, this post is pushing me, of course I'm not going to like it. But this post is truly bizarre. It's like he's talking out of both sides of his mouth. He's saying he's not sure what to make of my d1, that there are reasons to tr me and reasons to sr me, but at the same time he's willing to make the statement "I think you've been pushing townies and defending scum" which is really unambiguous. And again, he's voting for Kokichi, and another person I mentioned I was willing to vote and didn't like was STD. That's half of my pool and that's half of his pool. There is no reason for him to take that angle and it made me want to vote for him.

This isn't just an one-time thing, though, it's part of a larger pattern which I didn't really notice until this point. He says "there are certainly reasons to tr you" and he has said something similar before - that his read is neutral, there are reasons to townread or scumread me. But he never really elaborates beyond this vague sentiment that maybe there are some reasons to townread me. Obviously, there's the moment around 406 where he makes the push on me for scumleaning Kokichi, and he keeps doing that for a little while. In 552 he gives the 'some of her posts are towny' line without any sort of elaboration and in contrast makes sure to explain his reasoning for being suspicious. He tries to persuade nepenthe out of townreading me in 721, he says he doesn't know why I'm scumreading Kokichi in 1028. When Klick replaces in and calls me scum, you would think this might be a good time to talk about the reasons he has that I could be town, to talk his read out with Klick - no, his response in 1109 is just "i started to townread enchant and ausuka but maybe that was wrong." In 1120 I'm 'enabling' enchant, he again elaborates on all the things I'm doing to meet a Scum Agenda in 1182, he puts me in his solve in 1268. And obviously, we have 1309. Most of these points are frankly not even noteworthy in isolation, and I don't expect most people to read all of these points, but I wanted to demonstrate that I'm not pulling this out of my ass - there is a strong theme here. Gimli claims to have me as neutral, and sometimes mentions thinking I have towny posts, but never once elaborates on this, never argues the case for me being town, while trying to push reasons to scumread me time and time again.

I'm aware this sounds strange but please listen. Gimli wants me dead, during the day. He does not want to use a nightkill on me, and he does not want me to stay alive. But he doesn't want to get his hands dirty by leading the charge personally. Why?

killing ausuka d1 will be too much drama

enchant will just yawn and let us have it

I think he is a good flip and I'm trying to play more strategically around comus' scumread, so I've been trying to find someone he'd agree with. I wanted to eliminate std but he won't move and quite frankly we can flip kokichi and find out.

First of all - so that this case isn't entirely about me, I just want to emphasise that Gimli's vote on Kokichi is worthy of scumreading on its own. His post justifying his vote on Kokichi is *really* invested in blaming it on Comus. Like, as I said, Comus has zero thread pull. Menalque replaces in and starts beef with Comus like twenty seconds later. I don't think town gimli actually cares about comus to this extent. It just comes off as making excuses.

Secondly, this demonstrates that Gimli does care about his image and how it's affected by pushing people. While voting Kokichi, he's really careful to distance himself from the wagon - he doesn't want to be seen as the main person behind it if it goes through. This probably means Kokichi is town, although I guess it's also possible he's just trying to treat Kokichi as closely as possible to a town wagon. This is why I think it makes sense to say - he's trying to encourage people to push me and that's his angle here. He wants to do everything he can to get an elimination without being the person in primary focus on day 2, and that's why he posts like he's scumreading me while claiming to not.

By the way, I think this is worth emphasising;

I think ausuka's push on elsa is townie, and I think elsa might be a townie who plays a more self aware and reactive game.

I don't like enchant so far, feels stiff.

I am

very

skeptical that Gimli genuinely goes from thinking my push on elsa was towny at the start of the day, and now towards the end of the day it's not only not townie anymore, but is actually so scummy that it's STILL worth pushing on page 54.

This was such a good post. This may be the first time that my #1 scumread became my #1 town read. Though I admit my scumread was based on a misunderstanding and I understand you reasoning for suspecting me now

[Kokichi Oma]

This is more for myself so I can keep track of everyone.

Players
KawaiiKame - Prob town

Save the Dragons - doing more solving than I remember him doing as town before so I'm null om this right now.

geraintm - prob town

Dionysus - who?

Magical Girl - Just there I guess? Null.

Gimli - Terrible vote but could be in survival mode, something he'd do as town or scum so not sure yet

Elsa Jay - likely scum

Comus - lol

nepenthe - who?

Enchant - might be scum but not scum if Elsa is scum probably.

Ausuka - prob town

Klick - I like their posts but just for entertainment purposes. Null

Menalque - replaced one of the who's? But I'm too lazy to check which, it's not updated on page 1. Same as klick. I like their posts but just for entertainment purposes. Null

[Kokichi Oma]

Also Kokichi readlist looks a lot better than it was before so I’m guessing something spicy happened in last 10 pages or so

I never had a readlist, but I've talked about all those people all game. you're just not reading me

[Kokichi Oma]

Enchant, Elsa's vote make sense. I don't understand Gimli's. And looks opportunistic to something he said wasn't a scumslip

isn't it bad when you get voted by people that aren't even scumreading you?

ask me again if you can hammer me

I will still hammer you

[Kokichi Oma]

Enchant's hard town lol

Why

[Kokichi Oma]

I've only played with him once, but he was pretty towny then. That's really the only reason I have for suspecting him at the moment. Who are your top 3 scumreads?

[Kokichi Oma]

Ah, yes the double vote with me voting myself

[Kokichi Oma]

VOTE: Gimli Elsa won't be voted today unfortunately

[Kokichi Oma]

If for some reason we had a vig, I think shooting Enchant would be a decent shot though.

I'm vig. im not gonna shoot enchant though, i'm going to shoot someone thaw will spice this game up

[Kokichi Oma]

I'm not shooting enchant.

but lets blitz this

VOTE: dragons

[Kokichi Oma]

we have like 10 hours

[Kokichi Oma]

Oh, then i'm not vig.. haha..ahah...

[Kokichi Oma]

Azu update your first page

[Kokichi Oma]

I'm not vig

[Kokichi Oma]

It's a lie

[Kokichi Oma]

KawaiiKame - Prob town

why?

Tone

[Kokichi Oma]

Idk i think i sheep Kokichi vote at this point.

Probably jumping from scumread to sheep is bad look for me.

I'm not vig, I only said that as a joke. So don't sheep me. Who do you think is scum?

[Kokichi Oma]

UNVOTE:

[Kokichi Oma]

I take back what I said about Kawaii. He could maybe be scum. But don't want him today

[Kokichi Oma]

I think StD is at E-2? Not sure

[Kokichi Oma]

VOTE: std

okay I'm behind it

Remember that Gimli has been 'behind' (read: ahead of) every single push that might go through today. Before replacements, targets all inactives plus enchant and ausuka, but admits pushing ausuka will be too hard. Kokichi has votes? Gimli jumps on that. Klick suddenly susses Enchant and Ausuka? Gimli is sudenly okay with voting out Enchant again. Comus votes Dionysus? Yup, Gimli is happy with that.

Klick wants to kill Save the Dragons? Gimli is 'behind it' while already voting there and having been on Salsabil ever since they left(easy prey. All Gimli's pushes have been easy prey, momentum wise)

But KawaiiKame?

Oh noo...... Gimli might vote there, he says, but ooooh nooo.... never will.

I've seen gimli do this as town too though.

[Kokichi Oma]

KawaiiKame - Prob town

why?

Tone

I cannot express enough how much I hate this answer to questions about prob town people when there is no elaboration

what about his town?

There was an update to my read, i took it back

[Kokichi Oma]

Yeah, StD was likely town which is why I unvoted. This quick wagon was suspicious

[Kokichi Oma]

Saddest part is I wouldn't be surprised if only 1 scum was on this wagon

[Kokichi Oma]

So is this game abandoned?

[Kokichi Oma]

Hello my fellow townies. Shall we vote mafia today or shall we continue to vote another townie?

[Kokichi Oma]

VOTE: Elsa

[Kokichi Oma]

VOTE: kokichi

is anyone still townreading him?

I see you're going the vote townie strategy. Let's see if it pays off

[Kokichi Oma]

Ausuka is Omgussing me while trying to pocket Gimli.
Enchant is a goon and killed Magical Girl.
Kokichi Oma is with them.


This is the team. All three want to kill our cop. You are all on your own from here on out(Especially you Gimli)

This is a terrible reads list. No way you genuinely believe this

[Kokichi Oma]

Comus is so funny unironically

[Kokichi Oma]

Gimli, you say I'm playing badly, but I think you're playing badly. How do we solve this?

[Kokichi Oma]

TL;DR wow drink a chill pill. Ausuka/Kokichi/Enchant is the wolf team. No idea what abyss your mind wanders but it needs to see the truth.

Adieu.

-FIN-

You get bouncy when you get cheated out of wins from cheaters before. Just wanted confirmation it wasn't something stupid going on.

I'll just your Enchant thing and ignore the Ausuka thing for now. Kokichi is always a good compromise.

This is a wolf in sheep's clothing

We have found the scum, now we can continue with the game. There is no need to look any further. Don't be fooled

It was very clever to try to pretend to be cop to be able to live longer, but your time has come. It's time to be removed from the game and no longer be able to participate with the rest of us.

The Wolf must be eliminated. Do not let the wolf continue in this game any longer, do not be fooled. Vote out the wolf pretending to be sheep.

[Kokichi Oma]

What a great analysis, Gimli. Please continue

[Kokichi Oma]

I love rolling scum. I pray every game that I role scum or an important role at the very least.

[Kokichi Oma]

Gera's posting today is hard town lmao

+1

gera has been town since yesterday, you're late

[Kokichi Oma]

Gimli, if you keep going at me, you're going to be taken out

[Kokichi Oma]

Unfortunately I think you're likely town, but if you're going to get in the way of us getting scum, you're better off elim'd

[Kokichi Oma]

So people quickhammer people because they believe i quickhammer anyway?

That's lame.

The circle of life

[Kokichi Oma]

Unfortunately I think you're likely town, but if you're going to get in the way of us getting scum, you're better off elim'd

okay

give me the three names you're suspecting the most rn

Elsa and maybe Comus. I think his reads are all over the place and a lot of his reads have been changing for little reasoning even if he explains them, they don't seem to make rational sense.

[Kokichi Oma]

no need to read, just vote

[Kokichi Oma]

Unfortunately I think you're likely town, but if you're going to get in the way of us getting scum, you're better off elim'd

okay

give me the three names you're suspecting the most rn

Elsa and maybe Comus. I think his reads are all over the place and a lot of his reads have been changing for little reasoning even if he explains them, they don't seem to make rational sense.

Case Elsa now

I already said why I think Elsa is suspect.

[Kokichi Oma]

kokichi trolling too hard and acting too cynical to be a townie, imo. reminds me of his follower game in death note.

I'm not being snarky here I'm genuinely asking

What is scummy about this that wasn't true when I originally pushed him and you acted like no one could believe it

This is why I townread you

[Kokichi Oma]

lets kill elsa and if she is our cop i die tonight and you guys deal with this game

if she flips scum I stop posting anything cause I can't solve this mess

Bro wtf

beetlejuice

[Kokichi Oma]

i'm voting elsa because ACAB

Based

[Kokichi Oma]

ok i changed my mind

VOTE: Comus

I follow the frog. (i doubt we will get enough to vote out Elsa today anyway)

VOTE: Comus