Mini Normal 2294: Monkey Business (Endgame)

[KawaiiKame]

If only scum can lie, then town would always lose.

VOTE: Elsa Jay

[KawaiiKame]

Ah crap, good gal MG is actually cool.

VOTE: Dionysus

I think this is either a Greek god or something related? I got a B- in school once because of that. So I shall get rid of it now.

Greek god of wine

[KawaiiKame]

I see Elsa being exclusively sober

[KawaiiKame]

What even is this D1?

[KawaiiKame]

Ah so this game is one of those games where it becomes active when I'm at work and dead when I'm back from work.
It's going to be a fun one.

Let's up the activity, I need to get back in with my reads, this day is absolute chaos

[KawaiiKame]

Ah so this game is one of those games where it becomes active when I'm at work and dead when I'm back from work.
It's going to be a fun one.

Let's up the activity, I need to get back in with my reads, this day is absolute chaos

[KawaiiKame]

I think Kawaii is mafia

I think I am mafia, but the real me is town

[KawaiiKame]

town enchant would troll but be less forceful about it, while this enchant is making too many jokes and trolling things that feel a bit exaggerated, I'm picking up a weird vibe about it.

May you please expand upon this explanation? Enchant changing meta does not implicate Enchant, at best only indicates scum, Idek Enchant's meta so its irrelevant to me until I know it

[KawaiiKame]

Ahahahaha this is one of these games!

0ne of these games?

[KawaiiKame]

What even is this D1?

Do you have any reads?

Comus vs. Elsa is absolutely baffling to me, Comus is hyper-aggressive while Elsa is hyper-defensive, admittedly I feel Elsa with being randomly attacked in RVS, though that battle got this game out of RVS, feels town vs. town

Gimli pursuing Enchant on meta is something I do not like, minimum the change of the meta Idek indicates scum, not implicates

Enchant is...random, Idek what to make of the playstyle, playing and having fun is enjoyable tho

I like that you asked me to give reads, Idk why someone forgot you

I like Magical Girl, Ik just saying that is a skeleton read but that's my initial impression

I need to read this game in depth, this is what I have now

Almost forgot Dio, I'm with him in this game taking time to thinking about

Nono voted me, I think? Feel I'm missing why

[KawaiiKame]

I mean, any reasoning beyond being antagonistic, which like, I think that is something scum do pretty often

I felt the upset tone to be legitimate and unlikely to come from scum posturing

but its early i could be wrong

They are experienced player, so faking strong emotion shouldn’t be that tough +

Nono

's 162 is to the point on this matter.

0h no... Nono voted Elsa in 162... no good, thank you with linking the post, I saw it b4 but didn't give the time to analyze it, you feel town to me

[KawaiiKame]

I mean, any reasoning beyond being antagonistic, which like, I think that is something scum do pretty often

I felt the upset tone to be legitimate and unlikely to come from scum posturing

but its early i could be wrong

They are experienced player, so faking strong emotion shouldn’t be that tough +

Nono

's 162 is to the point on this matter.

VOTE: Nono

[KawaiiKame]

Spoiler: casing enchant

i am drunk

saying 'i am drunk' as a standalone sentence is scummy

i am drunk

who are your partners?

pls don't bus me

self aware scum

I think we should kill elsa jay and magical girl so i will remain as only magical user here

wants to kill townies

why create alt just to reveal it at first pages

something he'd never comment as town

please no one post so 20 page never happens

self aware scum af

You can't do anything to me i already prepared fakeclaim

scum joke

I am cop

scum joke

Wait do we have werewolfs here

scum joke

I trying to find excuse to vote Gimli so it doesh't look like OMGUS

scum joke

Fine you got me i fakeclaimed

In reality i am actually mason

scum joke

I think Kawaii is mafia

bad read

I don't understand. Enchant has mostly joked and while that's frustrating I don't fully see how you can determine what they are for joking? I'd be happy if they take things seriously and start solving but so far it is early, nepenthe hasn't posted and a lot of others haven't said a lot. Why can't Kawaii be a wolf? And can you please tell me why you think Elsa is a villager? I do not think you explained that, only shared. Elsa has said a lot but you and Magical Girl insist they are good, just on how they are feeling. Really don't understand?

I'm with you in all of this, nothing Enchant said is scum indicative/a "scum joke", that doesn't mean anything, these jokes = nai
I can be a wolf, I'm not in my pov but the possibility exists to anyone else who is not a wolf, I want to know why Gimli finds Elsa town too, admittedly I need to say why I do too, Elsa feels town based on reaction, I see the way Elsa was pursued by you to be this defensive, Gimli and Magical Girl saying Elsa is good does give me pause though

[KawaiiKame]

I posted this late, I went down to eat, Gimli admitted this was bad, presumingly when Comus said it was, why back down?

[KawaiiKame]

Everyone, is the way Gimli and Elsa are acting normal?

Wdym by "normal" what even is normal play in this game? I've seen a variance of styles and I only just began playing in this site, what is normal to you may not be normal to someone else, I have not seen anyone post like Enchant is doing in this game but maybe that's the way Enchant plays, Gimli's case against Enchant was so bad Enchant's randomness looks good in comparison, but that's exactly what Gimli based his case on, Enchant might be onto something with saying Gimli is evil, but that might be 0MGUS

With Elsa? I feel town would be that defensive against being pursued the way you pursued her, would all town? Maybe not, could she be scum? Possible, but I feel Elsa is town, reaction feels genuine

[KawaiiKame]

I posted this late, I went down to eat, Gimli admitted this was bad, presumingly when Comus said it was, why back down?

What about Salsabil's response do you think made Gimli suddenly want to vote you? Salsabil had Comus, Ausuka and Nono as village.
Enchant, Gimli, Elsa and Magical Girl as scum.

Also what do you think about Magical Girl's village read on Elsa? Is it the same as Gimli's?

I'm behind, I need to see what Salsa said, same with MG's town read on Elsa being potentially the same as Gimli's

[KawaiiKame]

If people get pushed by a bad angle their reaction to it will be genuine regardless of their alignment.

True, it's non alignment indicative

[KawaiiKame]

Everyone, is the way Gimli and Elsa are acting normal?

Wdym by "normal" what even is normal play in this game?

All while she's voting me for no real reason whatsoever.
Seems to have no curiosity about others' alignments. Doesn't try to sort, at all.

Lemme go back and read... I feel she does have reason to vote you, having 0 curiosity on anyone else shows an unwillingness to solve/egocentrism, I want to see if I see this as true

[KawaiiKame]

Everyone, is the way Gimli and Elsa are acting normal?

Wdym by "normal" what even is normal play in this game?

All while she's voting me for no real reason whatsoever.
Seems to have no curiosity about others' alignments. Doesn't try to sort, at all.

Lemme go back and read... I feel she does have reason to vote you, having 0 curiosity on anyone else shows an unwillingness to solve/egocentrism, I want to see if I see this as true

EDB0P

[KawaiiKame]

Fail

[KawaiiKame]

If people get pushed by a bad angle their reaction to it will be genuine regardless of their alignment.

So everything Elsa is doing is good? What Gimli is doing is good? I never hard pushed Elsa on a 'bad angle' as you describe it. Elsa assumed or manufactured that that was what I was doing, then arguing in circles. I said it's a possibility, Elsa launches a pre-emptive strike despite me not calling them a wolf at all at that time, votes me but publicly admits they won't sort me. Now they come in with one-liners and don't attempt to solve anyone. Just says Ausuka is good.

I felt Magical Girl was saying this in response to me, what I saw it was a bad angle push, an overly-aggressive one at least, I want to see the pre-emptive strike, this shows belief in you being a wolf despite not saying it if this is what happened, alternatively it can be pure self-preservation, Idk tho

[KawaiiKame]

Gimli, why is Kawaii your vote here? I'm trying to see an angle but the posts don't align there at all.

I want to know the same, I feel you attempting to solve the game now

[KawaiiKame]

Edit: Kawaii, did you read Comus' perspective about the MG alt slip having any weight, or did it look like he was setting up for something later with that?

Alt...slip? In confusion, what kind of mind games is being played in this?

[KawaiiKame]

I mean, any reasoning beyond being antagonistic, which like, I think that is something scum do pretty often

I felt the upset tone to be legitimate and unlikely to come from scum posturing

but its early i could be wrong

They are experienced player, so faking strong emotion shouldn’t be that tough +

Nono

's 162 is to the point on this matter.

VOTE: Nono

Can you please explain this vote or any other scumreads you have

Put a pin in this, insanity is happening, I will need to get back to you

[KawaiiKame]

Gimli, why is Kawaii your vote here? I'm trying to see an angle but the posts don't align there at all.

I want to know the same, I feel you attempting to solve the game now

I don't see solves, I see someone desperate to start a wagon

Solving to Elsa since she was accused by Comus of not solving

[KawaiiKame]

I dunno. At this point I gave up on that point since nobody elsa really cared enough about it, but it set me off, so just wanted one last check to see if it was something.

In other news, rereading the low posters ISOs and realized Kokichi was basically playing narrator without giving an opinion on anything, so if he could give say something on any of the voted people that would be nice. Wine God dipped but I'll interact with him if he gets back. Nono hopped on me in one post but the rest is useless stuff.

Edit: I'm solving other people in piece dude kindly actually interact with other people and stop riding one for now Comus.

How do you feel about me?

[KawaiiKame]

As the activity starts spiking, it is time for me to go to work.

Please double the page count by the time I come back, tyty

Peak comedy

[KawaiiKame]

Honestly Kawaii you give me mediating PR townie who's trying to see who to investigate. I'd probably shoot you if I was scum here but that's just me. Voting you seems stupid.

Please be implicit if you feel this way, don't be explicit

[KawaiiKame]

Feeling

[KawaiiKame]

I was planning to push on you, but then you did that thing, and you were obvious town. Even as scum you're trying to see who is towny or not. So that's not valid.

What thing? The readlist?

[KawaiiKame]

i forgot what i did lol

I am bad at casing but Gimli just handed out townreads early for bad reasons and now refuse to change opinions.

... Or he is evil. I think he is evil actually.

[KawaiiKame]

I was planning to push on you, but then you did that thing, and you were obvious town. Even as scum you're trying to see who is towny or not. So that's not valid.

What thing? The readlist?

What?

Saying Gimli is evil, feel I meant Elsa's read list, my mind is lost..
Ik someone made a significant read list, legit confused at me

[KawaiiKame]

I don't see your point

I'm saying Koki most likely thought you town since you posted Gimli is evil, but that's only my view, Koki should speak on this

[KawaiiKame]

hi guys, catching up on (twelve???) pages but if one person can give me a good reason to townread them while i review, i'll trust you 4L.

Ayyyy welcome, Idk if you should townread me

[KawaiiKame]

hi guys, catching up on (twelve???) pages but if one person can give me a good reason to townread them while i review, i'll trust you 4L.

I'm a frog

I hope to be a frog one day

[KawaiiKame]

No one is scumreading me yet. Why aren't I getting scumreads? I've hardly done anything to solve the game. Shouldn't someone be picking on me already?

UNVOTE: Nono
VOTE: Kokichi

[KawaiiKame]

The Great Wall of Magical Girl

[KawaiiKame]

M0NKE

[KawaiiKame]

So what's this dude is going for is basically he's "theorycrafted" in page 2

What did Comus theorycraft in Page 2?

[KawaiiKame]

No one is scumreading me yet. Why aren't I getting scumreads? I've hardly done anything to solve the game. Shouldn't someone be picking on me already?

UNVOTE: Nono
VOTE: Kokichi

is this a joke post? because we should be past joke and a rando votes by now

I semi feel this is Kokichi indicating being scum, Idek tho

[KawaiiKame]

No one is scumreading me yet. Why aren't I getting scumreads? I've hardly done anything to solve the game. Shouldn't someone be picking on me already?

UNVOTE: Nono
VOTE: Kokichi

is this a joke post? because we should be past joke and a rando votes by now

I semi feel this is Kokichi indicating being scum, Idek tho

it does have that "I'm so smart, no one would believe Scum would post this" vibe to it, i will give you that

I feel it's like, "I'm scum, please notice me senpai," but close to the same idea, if not scum, town who wants to be noticed as potential scum? In confusion with the play

[KawaiiKame]

so, in the aim of getting day 1 over with as quick as possible VOTE: Elsa Jay
i will continue for the rest of today to follow the wisdom of the crowd

Absolutely bad vote, 0 wisdom in the crowd, unvote now
Why follow the mob? The tyranny of the majority? What utility does eliminating Elsa give us? None, 0, in my pov

[KawaiiKame]

@gera: trying to get involved with the game but having actual physical symptoms like headache and then disappearing. he failed to get involved with it, and I think it's starting to look seriously alignment indicative.

the elsa jay wagon is horrible imo. even if she is scum, seems like a wasteful flip when there's this pool of scummy slots to pick from.

^ Why is this even happening?

[KawaiiKame]

Vote Count 1.0.2



Gimli (3) geraintm, Enchant, Salsabil Faria,
Elsa Jay (3) Ausuka, Nono, Comus

Enchant (2) Magical Girl, Gimli,

Kokichi Oma (1) KawaiiKame
Ausuka (1) Kokichi Oma,
Comus (1) Elsa Jay,

Not Voting (2) Dionysus, nepenthe,

With 13 players it takes 7 to eliminate.
Deadline: (expired on 2023-03-15 21:26:00)

so, in the aim of getting day 1 over with as quick as possible VOTE: Elsa Jay
i will continue for the rest of today to follow the wisdom of the crowd

?!?!?!?

Okay not only is ending day 1 so soon such a stupid idea when it's the one day we get extra time for, didn't you have other people to actually scumhunt for? Gera why.

^ 7 days, a whole ass week, we need to utilize the time effectively not end the day immediately with eliminating Elsa...

[KawaiiKame]

The wagon is at E3 and we have a week left why are people acting like we are imminently going to murder elsa

Intent to kill, Elsa's been pursued all game and I perceived Elsa's elimination being close, I didn't know it was E3 felt like the day was going to end soon

[KawaiiKame]

Also there probably is indeed scum in the lurkers but I don't understand why we care right now. Like we will probably end up dogpiling kokichi or something at the day end but right now maybe we should try and play with the people we actually have?

Like to me there is barely anything to distinguish between a lot of these people who don't post

Pedit: Gera has been going on about how much he hates day 1 the entire game, questioning him on it is fine but the Elsa wagon is not like about to reach its destination or whatever

With how much hate Elsa is getting it's possible, maybe it's unlikely, I feel you with reading lurkers = neutrals

[KawaiiKame]

I can't believe you're PICKING my words like this why don't you look at me posting things and advancing the game which makes me automatically town

What game advancing posts make you automatically town? I see you as town, but automatic?

[KawaiiKame]

I'm tossing that TR I had on ausuka

I feel like the focus on kokichi is bad amongst the lurkers since dio and enchant are scummier

Why dio/enchant?

[KawaiiKame]

I can't see the thing with me thinking kokichi might be scum being scummy as a real read? Like I think it's just plainly full of shit

I feel kokichi might be scum being scummy too, it's why I voted kokichi

[KawaiiKame]

I'm tossing that TR I had on ausuka

I feel like the focus on kokichi is bad amongst the lurkers since dio and enchant are scummier

Why dio/enchant?

I think I explained both of my reads fairly well already, but re: koki, while he could totally be mafia just underplaying it, but I also feel like koki would try to look townie instead of posting obtusely, so focusing on him doesn't feel right

Your reads on Enchant don't make sense to me, Enchant "trolling too hard/scum trolling" means nothing to me, Idek why dio is in this I need to go back and read why, I feel this is something kokichi might do so I'm voting to give attention, I have no idea how kokichi plays as scum, this is an attention/fos vote

[KawaiiKame]

me when 52

[KawaiiKame]

What even is this D1?

also this is mafia but i need to be bullied into explaining myself any further

I'm not a bully, I'm a villain, I will do something evil to you if you fail to explain

[KawaiiKame]

quickly, why were you on here so fast to see that and ask me about it when your last post was like 12 hours ago

You notified me

[KawaiiKame]

quickly, why were you on here so fast to see that and ask me about it when your last post was like 12 hours ago

You notified me

Via quoting me, that's how you my attention

[KawaiiKame]

pretty much everything you've contributed thus far has read as noncommittal attempts to look like you're contributing but without solidly outing a read or providing any information/thoughts that could progress the game, some selections:

^ 7 days, a whole ass week, we need to utilize the time effectively not end the day immediately with eliminating Elsa...

the elsa jay wagon is horrible imo. even if she is scum, seems like a wasteful flip when there's this pool of scummy slots to pick from.

^ Why is this even happening?

Absolutely bad vote, 0 wisdom in the crowd, unvote now
Why follow the mob? The tyranny of the majority? What utility does eliminating Elsa give us? None, 0, in my pov

May you please expand upon this explanation? Enchant changing meta does not implicate Enchant, at best only indicates scum, Idek Enchant's meta so its irrelevant to me until I know it

you had one post where i kinda saw the vision (234) and it felt like you were making a good point but besides that, after reading you i just get this feeling that you're playing safe and not in a neutral/towny way, it comes off like you're afraid to say anything definitive that could later come back up and be used against you depending on who gets lynched today.

I'm happy you see it has vision, hopefully I continue to have vision in this game, you on me with me being/non-commital, that's my playstyle, I do not engage until I feel inspired to be, I'm usually indecisive until I get the feel of the time, sometimes I'm pressured into it, sometimes it randomly happens, me being distracted/devoted to outside things causes my contribution/reading of the game to go down to advance the solve, I like you though, you get how my posts feel intuitively

[KawaiiKame]

pretty much everything you've contributed thus far has read as noncommittal attempts to look like you're contributing but without solidly outing a read or providing any information/thoughts that could progress the game, some selections:

^ 7 days, a whole ass week, we need to utilize the time effectively not end the day immediately with eliminating Elsa...

the elsa jay wagon is horrible imo. even if she is scum, seems like a wasteful flip when there's this pool of scummy slots to pick from.

^ Why is this even happening?

Absolutely bad vote, 0 wisdom in the crowd, unvote now
Why follow the mob? The tyranny of the majority? What utility does eliminating Elsa give us? None, 0, in my pov

May you please expand upon this explanation? Enchant changing meta does not implicate Enchant, at best only indicates scum, Idek Enchant's meta so its irrelevant to me until I know it

you had one post where i kinda saw the vision (234) and it felt like you were making a good point but besides that, after reading you i just get this feeling that you're playing safe and not in a neutral/towny way, it comes off like you're afraid to say anything definitive that could later come back up and be used against you depending on who gets lynched today.

I'm happy you see it has vision, hopefully I continue to have vision in this game, you on me with me being/non-commital, that's my playstyle, I do not engage until I feel inspired to be, I'm usually indecisive until I get the feel of the time, sometimes I'm pressured into it, sometimes it randomly happens, me being distracted/devoted to outside things causes my contribution/reading of the game to go down to advance the solve, I like you though, you get how my posts feel intuitively

[KawaiiKame]

My only gripe is that I am forever cursed, and now allowed an easy game.

What makes this game not easy exactly? Is any game exactly easy?

[KawaiiKame]

I'm one of the most infamous one-line-poster in this site.

That one wallpost was done as a meme.

0ne-linear to wallposter, the transformation

[KawaiiKame]

For those who's claiming to be confident about reading Enchant.
What's his "scum meta?"

^

[KawaiiKame]

As person confident in reading Enchant i fucking have no clue

Even Enchant is in confusion, you know we really lost when this is happening

[KawaiiKame]

Why do I feel like this game will not go well for us and scum will win

We're pursuing the wrong places, like I do not feel Gimli is scum
Elsa might be informed/perceptive town

[KawaiiKame]

Why do I feel like this game will not go well for us and scum will win

I hope you town and not attempt to disengage a scum elimination but this feels town, Idk if scum likes to get in town's head like this but it feels like a town fear

[KawaiiKame]

too self centered. and then when you see the savvy posting earlier, as I always said it could totally be a wolf TMIing those slots. b

I'm down with eliminating Elsa
VOTE: Elsa

[KawaiiKame]

too self centered. and then when you see the savvy posting earlier, as I always said it could totally be a wolf TMIing those slots. b

I'm down with eliminating Elsa
VOTE: Elsa

Chance is too high you mafia Elsa, if you town I'm sorry, I hate to lose someone who's this perceptive );

[KawaiiKame]

When we getting vc?

[KawaiiKame]

if you wanna kill scum vote enchant

Why you this certain? Enchant is all nai to me...

[KawaiiKame]

Why do I feel like this game will not go well for us and scum will win

I hope you town and not attempt to disengage a scum elimination but this feels town, Idk if scum likes to get in town's head like this but it feels like a town fear

I would do this as scum or town. Never trust me.

I know you enough not too

[KawaiiKame]

Why do I feel like this game will not go well for us and scum will win

I hope you town and not attempt to disengage a scum elimination but this feels town, Idk if scum likes to get in town's head like this but it feels like a town fear

I would do this as scum or town. Never trust me.

I know you enough not to

EDW0P

[KawaiiKame]

I would also like to point out that two people who has claimed high confidence on reading Enchant are both reading them as scum.

And what are the chance of

both

people being scum trying to mislim Enchant when Enchant can probably manage that by themselves?

Low, p low, mafia doesn't have an incentive to sink a potentially sinking ship

[KawaiiKame]

@Comus

too self centered. and then when you see the savvy posting earlier, as I always said it could totally be a wolf TMIing those slots. b

I'm down with eliminating Elsa
VOTE: Elsa

I'm not reading! I thought that was a Kokichi vote

Elsa = Kokichi

[KawaiiKame]

Or save a Mislim by going against the grain of me or Gimli tbh.

Mafia saving a mislim? Who do you think is the mafia doing this in this potential reality?

[KawaiiKame]

This vote is purely for Elsa not reading I guess

What did Elsa not read?

[KawaiiKame]

I'm saying if MG was scum it would be easy to give up and let me or Gimli die without much effort instead of enforcing we should get Enchant instead. Seems like a townie mindset there that should be heard more, since apparently she can also see it's a scum meta tell.

Yes...I feel MG is town too with this reasoning of independent thinking

[KawaiiKame]

idk why you care about his read on you when you scumread him

Even scum has value in what they say, your scumread can be wrong too so I see value in everyone despite how I read them

[KawaiiKame]

Truly a fake magical ally of justice.

Edit: that wasn't directed at Gimli? Hmm. Also I posted that list before MG posted hers, so those weren't influenced. I added you as a joke. You just don't like my jokes so it was for other people.

Personally think it's sharp because I genuinely think at least 2 of the scum are in my read list. I'll know more when we have flips.

Post it please, I'm tempted to play your game

[KawaiiKame]

I think her reaction especifically to your early tunnel was good.

To be clear, and I see Kawaii also repeating this as much as possible, there was no early tunnel.

Feels like you pursuing Elsa, Idk if I said you tunneling Elsa

[KawaiiKame]

UNVOTE: Elsa Jay

[KawaiiKame]

I am not pushing elsa for claiming cop, i pushing because claim was terrible.

Why is elsa's cop claim terrible?

[KawaiiKame]

You must be joking, but mostly PRs don't want to out self.

Mostly, doesn't mean Elsa isn't cop, Elsa was being pursued/pushed so I feel this claim, Hell I was voting her, I believe the claim happened in E-2? It was a significant enough to claim in my eyes

[KawaiiKame]

I am not pushing elsa for claiming cop, i pushing because claim was terrible.

Innocent until proven guilty, Elsa is the unccd cop, she's innocent until she's flipped, at least cc'd
Is the claim terrible? Maybe
Is the claim evidence Elsa is guilty? No

[KawaiiKame]

I don't remember this kind of law in our state of mafiascumia

I don't know the law but that's the law I abide by
Is the cop claim (being bad in your view) the only reason that Elsa is guilty?
In my view the cop claim is why Elsa is innocent

[KawaiiKame]

I don't remember this kind of law in our state of mafiascumia

I don't know the law but that's the law I abide by
Is the cop claim (being bad in your view) the only reason that Elsa is guilty?
In my view the cop claim is why Elsa is innocent

The fuck why

Uncc'd cop

[KawaiiKame]

Y’all say “omg Elsa claimed too early it’s scummy” and whatnot but all I really see is “overly self-defensive player does overly self-defensive thing.” It’s not like her claim came out of nowhere. She’ve been softing it.

^
You have the exact same thoughts I have on Elsa, Elsa was over-defensive back when facing Comus, now she claims cop to prevent being mislimmed? Highly in line with her character

I saw 2 possible realities when Elsa was unccd cop:
She is cop who claimed to avoid miselimination
She is scum who claimed cop

Given her defensive nature it's reasonable to believe she is cop who preemptively claimed to defend herself

[KawaiiKame]

I need to admit that i am not really Cop

Thank you, I felt it was a joke cc lmfao

[KawaiiKame]

I need to admit that i am not really Cop

Thank you, I felt it was a joke cc lmfao

Should I be voting on Gimli? Do you like what Save the Dragons said about you?

Idk if you should be voting Gimli, that's up to you but I feel no, I don't see Gimli as scum
All Ik is Save the Dragons believes I'm scum but Idk why, I only know of the vote

[KawaiiKame]

Save the Dragons has a whole shiny analysis on your behaviour. You sort of had to see it.

Yeah I've been away, I only saw a glimpse

[KawaiiKame]

id vote enchant too i think kawaii is more likely

kawaii seems to be inquisitive and instead of talking about elsa's reveal they just kind of unvote and slink into the shadows

This? I didn't know what to say with Elsa's cop reveal, uncc'd cop is pretty evident in what in means, I didn't feel the need to inquire about it, the claim is evident Elsa is town despite me thinking she's potentially informed, which is why I unvoted
I slinked into the shadows of math

[KawaiiKame]

page 7 kawaii doesn't look so good atm

KawaiiKame

Dionysus

Magical Girl

Gimli

Elsa Jay

Comus

nepenthe

Enchant

Kokichi Oma

Ausuka

Nono

VOTE: Kawaii

id vote enchant too i think kawaii is more likely

kawaii seems to be inquisitive and instead of talking about elsa's reveal they just kind of unvote and slink into the shadows

id vote enchant too i think kawaii is more likely

kawaii seems to be inquisitive and instead of talking about elsa's reveal they just kind of unvote and slink into the shadows

Actually why do you say kawaii isn't talking about elsa's reveal

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do you know how time works

Not shiny shiny maybe. But still, something. Is Save the Dragons going after you for any reason do you think? What about people like me who only discussed Elsa's claim after Save the Dragons voted you, Kawaii?

How do you feel about this push?

Yeah I read all of this b4, responded via STD's IS0, I believed STD said something compelling against me, was hoping to see, but I read what I read b4 with me being inquisitive but me not saying anything to Elsa claiming cop outside of me unvoting

[KawaiiKame]

Elsa now that the Cop Claim has been withdrawn?

Elsa dropped the cop claim?

[KawaiiKame]

What do you hope this push achieves? To capture my attention? You have it, I read something about Elsa giving up her cop claim but failed to see that in her IS0, what exactly is happening in this game?

[KawaiiKame]

I really like elsa jay in this game, why does half the thread scumread her? this makes no sense to me, why, what did she do that's giving off scummy vibes?

It doesn't make sense to me either...

[KawaiiKame]

Dunno how many Kawaii is at but I would really like to catch up in full before any vote goes through, much less someone I'm currently townreading

Menalque I see you, I just want to finish catchup first.

Thank you with holding off, I appreciate you

[KawaiiKame]

I want to know exactly what I did to be pushed like this, not voting Elsa? Being away? This is coming out of nowhere in my pov

[KawaiiKame]

Bro, leave me the fuck alone before I stop being friendly about it

Make some sense with your votes. You don't have to be friendly. Just helpful. Voting Elsa and Kawaii without sharing why isn't.

simply put: Elsa I consider to be generally anti-town in games and therefore a solid vote when there's nothing else around. I absolutely don't believe the cop claim.

kawaii I skimmed ISO for and nothing made me think town while I was reading, so I don't mind limming there if there isn't appetite for Elsa today

Elsa claimed cop... The logic is to vote me if we don't vote Elsa? Sad

[KawaiiKame]

STD potentially with pushing my vote

[KawaiiKame]

I can see Kokichi being scum too

[KawaiiKame]

VOTE: Save The Dragons

[KawaiiKame]

I take back what I said about Kawaii. He could maybe be scum. But don't want him today

Sad, anyone could maybe be scum but I wish I stayed town to you in tone, I'm in survival mode vs. STD, feel if I don't push him I will be the elimination

[KawaiiKame]

Yeah that's a fakeclaim. Elsa admitted as much in tone while claiming

Wdym admitted as much in tone? What tone in Elsa indicates that the cop claim is a fakeclaim?

[KawaiiKame]

Yeah that's a fakeclaim

Why you so convinced Elsa's cop claim is a fake claim? Tone? Show evidence of this tone, Elsa is uncc'd cop Idek why she's being pushed as a potential elimination option

[KawaiiKame]

Look theough Kawaii's ISO.

One topic: Elsa. I've never seen something like it.

This is disingenuous af and I feel you know it, me talking about Elsa extensively does not invalidate me asking how Elsa's cop claim is fakeclaiming by tone alone? Elsa is not my one topic either, why do you strawman me?

Instead of answering my question you dodge it by saying I talk about Elsa a lot...

[KawaiiKame]

Look theough Kawaii's ISO.

One topic: Elsa. I've never seen something like it.

So what's this dude is going for is basically he's "theorycrafted" in page 2

What did Comus theorycraft in Page 2?

No one is scumreading me yet. Why aren't I getting scumreads? I've hardly done anything to solve the game. Shouldn't someone be picking on me already?

UNVOTE: Nono
VOTE: Kokichi

is this a joke post? because we should be past joke and a rando votes by now

I semi feel this is Kokichi indicating being scum, Idek tho

it does have that "I'm so smart, no one would believe Scum would post this" vibe to it, i will give you that

I feel it's like, "I'm scum, please notice me senpai," but close to the same idea, if not scum, town who wants to be noticed as potential scum? In confusion with the play

I'm tossing that TR I had on ausuka

I feel like the focus on kokichi is bad amongst the lurkers since dio and enchant are scummier

Why dio/enchant?

I can't see the thing with me thinking kokichi might be scum being scummy as a real read? Like I think it's just plainly full of shit

I feel kokichi might be scum being scummy too, it's why I voted kokichi

quickly, why were you on here so fast to see that and ask me about it when your last post was like 12 hours ago

You notified me

pretty much everything you've contributed thus far has read as noncommittal attempts to look like you're contributing but without solidly outing a read or providing any information/thoughts that could progress the game, some selections:

^ 7 days, a whole ass week, we need to utilize the time effectively not end the day immediately with eliminating Elsa...

the elsa jay wagon is horrible imo. even if she is scum, seems like a wasteful flip when there's this pool of scummy slots to pick from.

^ Why is this even happening?

Absolutely bad vote, 0 wisdom in the crowd, unvote now
Why follow the mob? The tyranny of the majority? What utility does eliminating Elsa give us? None, 0, in my pov

May you please expand upon this explanation? Enchant changing meta does not implicate Enchant, at best only indicates scum, Idek Enchant's meta so its irrelevant to me until I know it

you had one post where i kinda saw the vision (234) and it felt like you were making a good point but besides that, after reading you i just get this feeling that you're playing safe and not in a neutral/towny way, it comes off like you're afraid to say anything definitive that could later come back up and be used against you depending on who gets lynched today.

I'm happy you see it has vision, hopefully I continue to have vision in this game, you on me with me being/non-commital, that's my playstyle, I do not engage until I feel inspired to be, I'm usually indecisive until I get the feel of the time, sometimes I'm pressured into it, sometimes it randomly happens, me being distracted/devoted to outside things causes my contribution/reading of the game to go down to advance the solve, I like you though, you get how my posts feel intuitively

[KawaiiKame]

Look theough Kawaii's ISO.

One topic: Elsa. I've never seen something like it.

Why you so convinced Elsa's cop claim is a fake claim? Tone? Show evidence of this tone, Elsa is uncc'd cop Idek why she's being pushed as a potential elimination option

Vanilla town at best.

Then at best you need to stop pushing Vanilla Town...

[KawaiiKame]

Look theough Kawaii's ISO.

One topic: Elsa. I've never seen something like it.

This is disingenuous af and I feel you know it, me talking about Elsa extensively does not invalidate me asking how Elsa's cop claim is fakeclaiming by tone alone? Elsa is not my one topic either, why do you strawman me?

Instead of answering my question you dodge it by saying I talk about Elsa a lot...

Pretty much yeah

How tf does this help town in any capacity?

[KawaiiKame]

Anything else? You don't care. Doesn't solve. Doesn't hunt. Doesn't anything. Only: Kawaii and Elsa. I mean wolves are rarely obvious but wow you really are an obvious wolf. No idea what your plan even is here. Defend village Elsa to get village cred? Blatantly defend wolf Elsa every time someone pushes them.

I made a quote wall showing that I do solve/hunt, what do you even mean? I asked why Dio/Enchant is scummier than Kokichi, I stated I see Kokichi as potential scum, I asked what you theorycrafted in page 2

pedit: Content for the sake of content? Why do you downplay my play? I've legit been busy with school fighting against deadlines, ofc I've been disengaged, but that's when I had time and trying... Idk why you so dismissive of how I played going into this narrative you fail to tunnel out of, I don't want to make excuses why I've failed to play but what exactly is there to engage with besides the Elsa push? The game's been falling off and every time I come back it's something against Elsa, do you see any possibility that I am not a wolf and a have a non-wolf motive to defend Elsa?

[KawaiiKame]

Kawaii don't feel compelled to respond to Comus spend your Mafia time budget solving instead

Did you play Magical Girl's 'pick three people you would be most okay limming today' game?

I haven't, as of now STD, Kokichi, Dio/Menalque

[KawaiiKame]

Anything else? You don't care. Doesn't solve. Doesn't hunt. Doesn't anything. Only: Kawaii and Elsa. I mean wolves are rarely obvious but wow you really are an obvious wolf. No idea what your plan even is here. Defend village Elsa to get village cred? Blatantly defend wolf Elsa every time someone pushes them.

I made a quote wall showing that I do solve/hunt, what do you even mean? I asked why Dio/Enchant is scummier than Kokichi, I stated I see Kokichi as potential scum, I asked what you theorycrafted in page 2

pedit: Content for the sake of content? Why do you downplay my play? I've legit been busy with school fighting against deadlines, ofc I've been disengaged, but that's when I had time and trying... Idk why you so dismissive of how I played going into this narrative you fail to tunnel out of, I don't want to make excuses why I've failed to play but what exactly is there to engage with besides the Elsa push? The game's been falling off and every time I come back it's something against Elsa, do you see any possibility that I am not a wolf and a have a non-wolf motive to defend Elsa?

Math specifically w/ school

[KawaiiKame]

Look theough Kawaii's ISO.

One topic: Elsa. I've never seen something like it.

Why you so convinced Elsa's cop claim is a fake claim? Tone? Show evidence of this tone, Elsa is uncc'd cop Idek why she's being pushed as a potential elimination option

Vanilla town at best.

Then at best you need to stop pushing Vanilla Town...

You should be defending yourself or casing Save the Dragons.

Instead, you only hop into the thread when two things happen:

"Someone mentions Elsa"

"Someone votes/wants to vote Kawaii"

Anything else? You don't care. Doesn't solve. Doesn't hunt. Doesn't anything. Only: Kawaii and Elsa. I mean wolves are rarely obvious but wow you really are an obvious wolf. No idea what your plan even is here. Defend village Elsa to get village cred? Blatantly defend wolf Elsa every time someone pushes them.

Too scummy to be scum? No. Just scum, sometimes life is like that.

You hard tunneling me, I hope you stop soon, I realized I've failed in engaging in this game, I want to solve and I know you've given me time to, sadly my time was taken away, I feel I'm not the only one who's been giving up this game

[KawaiiKame]

Kawaii don't feel compelled to respond to Comus spend your Mafia time budget solving instead

Did you play Magical Girl's 'pick three people you would be most okay limming today' game?

Do you have an eliminating 3 game?

[KawaiiKame]

spend your Mafia time budget solving instead

How do I solve?

[KawaiiKame]

Town:
Klick, actively giving reads/feelings, encouraging me to solve, unccd tcv, reads align with mine
Elsa, unccd cop
Comus: Aggressively solving/pursuing who he thinks is scum, pursuits against me + Elsa is anti-town but town should be forgiven w/ anti-town pursuits since lack of knowledge exists until flips
Gimli: Feeling town since the beginning, mainly in attitude-emotional read, I like his pursuit of an STD flip
Magical Girl: Magical Girl's Big Wall places MG in town to me, continuously solving/inquisitive,

1. Gimli is not noob to get cleared for this. Daytalk while need to be confirmed, is mostly status quo.
2. WHERE THE FUCK CHAIN OF YOUR LOGIC, I DON'T EVEN SEE MENTION OF PT.

1. Are you trying to tell me that Gimli put a very subtle thing like that out of nowhere in hope for someone to pick it up can try to clear him for it? “Subtle” and “hoping that someone picks up” are two opposite thing.
2. “Idk if Elsa interacts with a partner like that” = “idk if Elsa blatantly tells her partner that a Townie looks like PR (because scum PT is locked)”

50/50
Ausuka: Hard to read, giving the benefit of the doubt with activity/the last posts I say she leans town in my eyes
gera: Town? Idk
nepe: I like what nepe says, not much to go off of tho in quantity
Kokichi: My read on Kokichi keeps flipping like a pancake, I fos Kokichi emotionally but looking back this isn't enough to be okay with eliminating
Enchant: Absolute chaos, the true embodiment of 50/50, I see Enchant flipping in any/all directions
Menalque: Giving emotional reads against me/Elsa, might be something, might be nothing

Scum Likely:
STD: Pushes against me out of left field with not being inquisitive enough, I'm failing to buy it, it doesn't feel explicitly solving unlike Comus

[KawaiiKame]

dethy

dethy?

[KawaiiKame]

Hey guys what's your favourite colour? Mine is green

green
blue is close behind

[KawaiiKame]

RIP MG

[KawaiiKame]

Conclusion: I got picked by a Checker, a Ballsy Hider, or just a random visitor?

I'm the Hider

[KawaiiKame]

This game is fucked, let's reset

[KawaiiKame]

This game is fucked, let's reset

wait what?

Inactive slots, Meg's absence fucked with the tempo of the game, mafia can easily take advantage of the game state to coast to the end

[KawaiiKame]

does this mean the hider has to target someone each night to use their hiding ability, but they do die if the person they are hiding at dies too??

Yes

[KawaiiKame]

does this mean the hider has to target someone each night to use their hiding ability, but they do die if the person they are hiding at dies too??

Yes

btw are you weak?

No

[KawaiiKame]

Unfortunately I think you're likely town, but if you're going to get in the way of us getting scum, you're better off elim'd

okay

give me the three names you're suspecting the most rn

Elsa and maybe Comus. I think his reads are all over the place and a lot of his reads have been changing for little reasoning even if he explains them, they don't seem to make rational sense.

Case Elsa now

[KawaiiKame]

i need to go back and solve this game
This game is confusing af Idk who to believe

[KawaiiKame]

An even split
2-2-2

[KawaiiKame]

Eh, I don't want Enchant

I want you
VOTE: Kokichi

[KawaiiKame]

Eh, I don't want Enchant

I want you
VOTE: Kokichi

Can I be your friend?

Yes

[KawaiiKame]

idk game too hard

Want to flip Kokichi?

[KawaiiKame]

I do but he keeps bullying me

If you eliminate Kokichi he will stop bullying you

[KawaiiKame]

Eh, I don't want Enchant

I want you
VOTE: Kokichi

Can I be your friend?

Yes

[KawaiiKame]

Time to solve

[KawaiiKame]

Pre-emptive strike to not let Comus use an alt slip as literally anything. It just seems scummy to do.

Elsa doesn't seems concerned with that, merely concerned with looking good.

I read intentions best when they're aimed at me. I saw him potentially setting up something to use against me and MG later and I shut it down.

Scum mindset, Elsa focuses way too much on self-preservation in the opening game, when Comus was discussing possibilities Elsa took this as a direct threat to her survival, what? I feel this captures Elsa,

Can't speak about Gera too much other then it's seems in character when I played with them a year ago. They're fine. People who agree with me are allies I can't afford to throw away until evidence is given to show guilt, in which case I turn on a dime. But I'm loyal to my allies.

I see. I, Comus discussing possibilites, not reaching a conclusion, makes me bad from the very start. Even if I weren't all that focused on you. Geraintm assuming, as you have, that I ever had a read on you, ignoring everything else I said, is good. You discount the possibility that geraintm could be sheeping you as wolf. You double down on saying I ever said you are a wolf despite me never having said so.

It's clear you are more concerned with positioning here. Geraintm being a sudden ally for agreeing with your wrong assumptions amuses me. I see no further value in this, you have told me that you're not keeping an open mind in the wend and way of your words.

[KawaiiKame]

Pre-emptive strike to not let Comus use an alt slip as literally anything. It just seems scummy to do.

Elsa doesn't seems concerned with that, merely concerned with looking good.

I read intentions best when they're aimed at me. I saw him potentially setting up something to use against me and MG later and I shut it down.

Scum mindset, Elsa focuses way too much on self-preservation in the opening game, when Comus was discussing possibilities Elsa took this as a direct threat to her survival, what? I feel this captures Elsa,

Can't speak about Gera too much other then it's seems in character when I played with them a year ago. They're fine. People who agree with me are allies I can't afford to throw away until evidence is given to show guilt, in which case I turn on a dime. But I'm loyal to my allies.

I see. I, Comus discussing possibilites, not reaching a conclusion, makes me bad from the very start. Even if I weren't all that focused on you. Geraintm assuming, as you have, that I ever had a read on you, ignoring everything else I said, is good. You discount the possibility that geraintm could be sheeping you as wolf. You double down on saying I ever said you are a wolf despite me never having said so.

It's clear you are more concerned with positioning here. Geraintm being a sudden ally for agreeing with your wrong assumptions amuses me. I see no further value in this, you have told me that you're not keeping an open mind in the wend and way of your words.

The potential exists that Elsa is town and this is how Elsa plays as town, but reading in IS0 I feel Comus is onto something with Elsa now, I feel Elsa's flip in elimination > jailing anyone

[KawaiiKame]

You are not Doc unless your scum doc for said vig claim. What are you doing rn.

Hmmmm do we need to kill elsa

Yes
VOTE: Elsa Jay

[KawaiiKame]

You are not Doc unless your scum doc for said vig claim. What are you doing rn.

Hmmmm do we need to kill elsa

Yes
VOTE: Elsa Jay

UNVOTE: Kokichi
VOTE: Elsa Jay

[KawaiiKame]

I'm also willing to eliminate you Ausuka

[KawaiiKame]

But Kawaii already has you down as claiming VT. That means you lied about your role.

I do? When?

[KawaiiKame]

So Comus actually is my only scumread now yay

This feels weird to me, how is Comus your only scumread? At least 2 scum exist...
How is Comus one of them?

[KawaiiKame]

i was pushing the page 2 elsa case surely that has to account for something

Depends how Elsa flips
You've engaged with so many slots we will get a wealth of info on how you flip
The way you engage the game puts you as a tentative town read in my eyes though, you feel solvey, ironically you will advance the solve when eliminated, it is the ultimate gambit tho, we will lose a lot when losing you

[KawaiiKame]

I'm not going to pretend I know the entire scumteam on day 2

I'm not saying you should, I'm not even expecting you to, but having only one scumread out of at least 2 feels weird to me, especially when that one scumread is Comus who I townread
Feels you scumread Elsa now too but that can be in my own mind

[KawaiiKame]

I think kawaii is too scummy to be scum lole

Idk why I'm scummy, everyone thinks I'm scum at some point even when I'm town

[KawaiiKame]

I'm not going to pretend I know the entire scumteam on day 2

I'm not saying you should, I'm not even expecting you to, but having only one scumread out of at least 2 feels weird to me, especially when that one scumread is Comus who I townread
Feels you scumread Elsa now too but that can be in my own mind

I mean I have ppl I suspect more or less but I'm not going to call people a scumread if they're not in that mental category

I am leaning scum on elsa at this point yeah

Why do you scum lean Elsa at this point?
Me I'm realizing an epiphany- Comus might be right in Elsa being scum, i've spent so long defending her on the basis of claims, she feels town now tho, but she felt scum b4

[KawaiiKame]

I think if elsa is town she is vanilla but that feels increasingly incompatible with her play

Are you asking me to elaborate on this or did you miss it

Feel I saw that b4 but it got lost with everything I'm reading, explain this vanilla town theory please

[KawaiiKame]

It's because Hider doesh't do anything with target: It's simple Visit.

Yes Hider only hides behind a target, if the target doesn't die you don't die, if the target lives you live

[KawaiiKame]

hey kawa why did you hide behind elsa?

I felt Elsa wouldn't be killed in the night since she is such a mislim opportunity mafia wouldn't kill her
I ended up scumreading Elsa in the end when I fully believed she was town, I wish Elsa just confessed to being VT b4 I ignited the push

[KawaiiKame]

Because I'm actually a combined visionary role watcher

Role watchers don't exist in normal

Ausuka scum?

[KawaiiKame]

massclaiming probably isn't a bad idea but i don't see the need to like, put down our votes or whatever

I am less interested right now in arguing with comus and gimli and more from hearing from skygazer, geraintm, kawaii, klick, menalque

I want to ask why the enchant claim doubt, but if we're massclaiming it makes sense to do that first before we start discussing the setup

Feels we massclaiming only because we don't know what else to do, I'm completely lost/confused in this game I feel everyone else is too, everyone knows my role, was tempted to hide behind Kokichi, dodged a bullet

[KawaiiKame]

massclaiming probably isn't a bad idea but i don't see the need to like, put down our votes or whatever

I am less interested right now in arguing with comus and gimli and more from hearing from skygazer, geraintm, kawaii, klick, menalque

I want to ask why the enchant claim doubt, but if we're massclaiming it makes sense to do that first before we start discussing the setup

Feels we massclaiming only because we don't know what else to do, I'm completely lost/confused in this game I feel everyone else is too, everyone knows my role, was tempted to hide behind Kokichi, dodged a bullet

Why were you considering hiding behind Kokichi?

Potential mafia

[KawaiiKame]

I think Kawaii is mafia

I think I am mafia, but the real me is town

Hey Kawaii, when you see this, could you @ me back by quoting this post please?

@ you

[KawaiiKame]

I'm so tired.

Kawaii please speak to us.

Speaking, what you want to discuss?

[KawaiiKame]

Can you confirm quickly what your role is?

Hider

[KawaiiKame]

Can you confirm quickly what your role is?

Hider

any modifiers??

No

[KawaiiKame]

I hate that site meta has basically become 'be right on Day 1 or Day 2 otherwise the two townies who don't care about winning will make it endgame'

Policy lims are still a thing that exist and can be used! And if towns actually started using them this would be less of a problem

If you believe this why weren't you trying to policy comus earlier when it wasn't the day before elo with a 1v1

What makes Comus policy? Is today the day b4 Elo?

[KawaiiKame]

Can you confirm quickly what your role is?

Hider

any modifiers??

I'm x2 shot, does that count as a modifier?

[KawaiiKame]

I just checked my role pm again, Ik I'm x2 but I failed to realize that counting as a modifier

[KawaiiKame]

so kawaii is scum

I'm not, do you want to be in elo?

[KawaiiKame]

Can you confirm quickly what your role is?

Hider

any modifiers??

I'm x2 shot, does that count as a modifier?

This game is a comedy of errors

It is

[KawaiiKame]

ok so we elim kawaii

Or you, but I’m sheeping ausuka so y’know, probably kawaii

This is why ausuka is dangerous, if she's mafia town is done

[KawaiiKame]

Imagine wasting hider shoots N1-N2.

I didn't waste my N2 shot

[KawaiiKame]

I think i still don't believe you.

Why don't you believe me?

[KawaiiKame]

If you all want to eliminate me because of my screw up that's fine, but you need to be certain of who to eliminate in EL0 D4 since voting me puts town in a precarious position

[KawaiiKame]

Today should be dedicated to finding scum then eliminating me at the end of the day

[KawaiiKame]

VOTE: menalque

[KawaiiKame]

Gera is the problematic one bc I was reading him as town and the thing that bothers me is how he was very much not engaging with my actual arguments with him about why I wasn’t scum yesterday, but was engaging with a twisted version of them

What's the difference between your actual arguments/the twisted version of your arguments?

[KawaiiKame]

UNVOTE: menalque

[KawaiiKame]

Screw time such a useless concept someone just hammer already

I feel we need time

[KawaiiKame]

Claim Comus
VOTE: Comus

[KawaiiKame]

Comus is being detrimental to town by not full claiming in this position, only valid reason in my eyes to not fullclaim is if fullclaiming somehow puts town in a lower position than the place we at now
I'm tempted to join Enchant in voting Ausuka but I don't want to believe in this possibility of her being scum

[KawaiiKame]

Comus is being detrimental to town by not full claiming in this position, only valid reason in my eyes to not fullclaim is if fullclaiming somehow puts town in a lower position than the place we at now
I'm tempted to join Enchant in voting Ausuka but I don't want to believe in this possibility of her being scum

I must post this final post just to shout at Kawaii, I just have to. Kawaii if you're town I don't understand your play here, at all. Ausuka and Gimli are very obvious town, Sky and menalque are very obvious scum. In a bubble, a void, without roles and by behavior this should be very clear for anyone reading intent, tone and general reciprocity in communication and what that reciprocity entails.

Your menalque vote was very good. Sky did not wait for menalque to claim before claiming, this and many other things scream their aligned status.

Sky and menalque have set you up. How can you trust enchant by the way? Have you questioned Enchant's vote on you?

I implore you, beg you, Kame, if you're town please hash this out with Gimli. Gimli is very level headed here, discuss the intricacies and ask him to expand his thinking. Especially where Aus and mena are concerned.

I won't be active this game day. If somehow town convinces themselves to SHIFT OFF menalque, and ONTO Ausuka...



My monkey business is at an end, I retreat into the trees and seek the peace of the jungle.

Have fun.

The screaming monkey is convincing me, mechanically menalque is in isolation
UNVOTE: Comus
VOTE: menalque

[KawaiiKame]

I'm inclined to believe you in being town Sky, your reasoning against me makes sense, you have town motive in thinking I am scum, I know your conclusion is wrong but you have a good thought process

[KawaiiKame]

I'm willing to engage with you, hopefully you willing to engage with me

[KawaiiKame]

i still think kawaii thought they were hammering menal so im clearing menal on association

i also feel like menal is a scum-driven counterwagon

I did not think I was hammering menal, it was semi evident a hammer wasn't happening with that vote, since I just unvoted and revoted menal, I don't see how that would mean hammer
It's possible menal is a scum-driven-counterwagon, I don't find it likely but it's possible, I'm inclined to believe Comus is town, Gera is an unknown to me

[KawaiiKame]

ok im down

who are u scumreading rn besides menal

That's what I'm feeling paralyzed with, you + Ausuka have a town mind/way of thinking, I do not think scum comes against me like this
I'm inclined to believe Comus is town inspite of how erratic the play is, like, I haven't seen scum play like this in any game, could Comus be scum? Yes. Is it likely? No, the play is way too chaotic/genuine, if Comus is scum gg

Enchant is town to me on being the doctor alone, I will not kill a claimed unccd doctor in any circumstance

I like that I'm being defended by Gimli/Klick, I feel their thoughts align with town but they might be scum? I can see a reality that Klick is in the mafia in this game, low conviction tho, while thinking I am scum is town thinking, so is this,

I think it's very reasonable for Kawaii to think that 2-shot wouldn't count as a modifier.
I think reading the progression of Kawaii's posting from 2858 to 2897 it's entirely believable and consistent and shows someone who came into the thread not having read anything relevant to the conversation, claiming, catching up and making responses, and getting a more fully developed understanding of the situation as they read and posted
I do NOT get the impression that they claimed without reading and then very quickly read a synopsis of what they needed to claim and understand from the Scum PT. I don't feel like Kawaii would feel the necessity for quick posting as scum in that situation. I think it was natural town responding.

This line of thinking makes sense since it was my line of thinking

Gera is hard to read in my eyes, someone I'm down to flip on poe alone
pedit: enchant/comus is a possibility? I find doctor > invest in value so I'd have to eliminate comus in this case
pedit 2: Comus is soft pushing you?

[KawaiiKame]

mechanically menalque is in isolation

Sky and menalque are very obvious scum. In a bubble, a void, without roles and by behavior

Paraphrasing you

[KawaiiKame]

i wouldn't discount comus on that, it seems like a personality thing

in my last game i townread both scum bc i thought both (not you enchant, your predecessor) based on their posting style/hyperactivity/etc were obvtown lol

I mean, maybe? I'm definitely afraid of comus flipping mafia, especially when saying "you're seeing my true colors" when being seen as potential scum but then monkey screams at me with unvoting mala and setting up to go against Ausuka who he sees as town, it's bewildering but feels swingy town. Could be personality meaning nai but I find that hard to believe, Comus does make me wary tho

[KawaiiKame]

speaking of sorry for hyperposting my adhd is running rampant tonight

I hyperpost in the night too it's all good

[KawaiiKame]

im so lost now sighs

Who do you feel is town/scum now, I feel I'm lost like you

[KawaiiKame]

What is the value in not eliminating anyone today?

[KawaiiKame]

What is the value in not eliminating anyone today?

What is the context of this

If we mislim today it's elo, I'm asking what's the game state if we eliminate no one today

[KawaiiKame]

Ik voting no one gives scum a free kill, I wanted to know what being down one looks like vs. being down potentially 2

[KawaiiKame]

Lemme see what's happening

[KawaiiKame]

oh actually skygazer couldn't have been blocked since she got an actual result

so unless mod fuckup (which I doubt but maybe?) skygazer is 100% scum fmpov.

What result?

[KawaiiKame]

Did you hide?

I hid behind Sky