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Post Post #3550 (ISO) » Fri Mar 17, 2023 6:53 am

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In post 3549, Bingle wrote: Is GL an ircher buddy?

Like in what world does ircher have a solid townread on me AND somehow miss the whole point of putting AD in the cop slot in the first place, given that he was reading recent pages specifically?

why does scum miss that

like to conclude he's scum making that post you have to assume he's either:

1) genuinely checked out, not remembering things and not even talking about the game with his teammates
2) faking being detached at that level

which do you think is happening here?

imo most people who are playing scum wouldn't even think to make a post like if they're aware of the mechanics and actively strategizing about how to play around them
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Post Post #3551 (ISO) » Fri Mar 17, 2023 7:12 am

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@Ircher - you missed this:
In post 3509, Bingle wrote:
In post 3507, Ircher wrote: GuiltyLion is like the only one who has bothered to try to engage me in some capacity.
Point. What parts of the game have you read?
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Post Post #3552 (ISO) » Fri Mar 17, 2023 7:28 am

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In post 3546, Ircher wrote:
In post 3544, furtiveglance wrote: Voting SleepyKrew out is a win/win/win

If he is mafia, we get mafia out

If he is town, we know AD is town

In either case, AD can check someone else tonight.
What prevents scum from killing Dan in the town Skrew case? Then we're just down two townies.
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Post Post #3553 (ISO) » Fri Mar 17, 2023 7:28 am

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GuiltyLion is scum, probably why Pooky was killed
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Post Post #3554 (ISO) » Fri Mar 17, 2023 8:34 am

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In post 3542, furtiveglance wrote: How am I doing nothing

What are other ppl doing that I'm not
for all I’m concerned you are vanity voting skrew and doing ur own thing
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Post Post #3555 (ISO) » Fri Mar 17, 2023 8:36 am

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In post 3545, Save The Dragons wrote: my vote is probably going to ircher once funding is finalized
Are you aware of our funding situation at all?
Ur trash right so u should have the pt
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Post Post #3556 (ISO) » Fri Mar 17, 2023 8:36 am

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Ur trash collector*
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Post Post #3557 (ISO) » Fri Mar 17, 2023 8:37 am

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yeah
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Post Post #3558 (ISO) » Fri Mar 17, 2023 8:41 am

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In post 3554, Alisae wrote:
In post 3542, furtiveglance wrote: How am I doing nothing

What are other ppl doing that I'm not
for all I’m concerned you are vanity voting skrew and doing ur own thing
I explained why it's the mechanically correct vote already.

Why do you think Enchant died but he didn't?
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Post Post #3559 (ISO) » Fri Mar 17, 2023 8:43 am

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/shrug
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Post Post #3560 (ISO) » Fri Mar 17, 2023 8:44 am

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Post Post #3561 (ISO) » Fri Mar 17, 2023 8:45 am

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In post 3560, Alisae wrote: circumstantial
I agree, the circumstance being that the Cop was scum
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Post Post #3562 (ISO) » Fri Mar 17, 2023 8:57 am

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how is eliminating SK today better than eliminating him tomorrow? that's what I don't understand

I don't really see how it's mechanically better to eliminate him today unless he's actually scum, but maybe I'm missing something
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Post Post #3563 (ISO) » Fri Mar 17, 2023 8:59 am

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In post 3562, GuiltyLion wrote: how is eliminating SK today better than eliminating him tomorrow? that's what I don't understand

I don't really see how it's mechanically better to eliminate him today unless he's actually scum, but maybe I'm missing something
I think he is scum yeah

I'm hearing excuses from you
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Post Post #3564 (ISO) » Fri Mar 17, 2023 9:06 am

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why is he scum

I've seen you assert it a lot but I don't remember a convincing explanation/case
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Post Post #3565 (ISO) » Fri Mar 17, 2023 9:22 am

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In post 3550, GuiltyLion wrote: like to conclude he's scum making that post you have to assume he's either:

1) genuinely checked out, not remembering things and not even talking about the game with his teammates
2) faking being detached at that level
Conversely, to be town he has to have a genuine townread on me that he built from reading primarily the portion of the game where I discuss why AD *should* be cop, be genuinely checked out and not remember that specific part of the game. You know, the one part he's shown knowledge of. Whether he's scum who made up a read on me or scum who is pretending not to know what's going on, both of those are less ridiculous than that he's town who posted:
In post 3268, Ircher wrote: In post , Bingle wrote:
In post , Ircher wrote:
Hi!

I'll try reading up on the last few pages in a few hours.

teal dear:

Game is a smalltown with persistent and publicly assigned PRs. Treasurer determines who gets to act via a funding algorithm that is fully known to LLD and myself, but has only been alluded to publicly. We've been using the cop as a leash on the scum NK, which got us an Enchant kill N1 and theoretically should have gotten us a Skrew kill last night, but Skrew remains alive and well. Your predecessor was actively being useless, so you are a relatively high priority sort for me at least.

What do you mean by "as a leash"? Is the assumption that whoever gets copped will also get night killed?
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In post 3546, Ircher wrote: What prevents scum from killing Dan in the town Skrew case? Then we're just down two townies.

In post 3562, GuiltyLion wrote: I don't really see how it's mechanically better to eliminate him today unless he's actually scum, but maybe I'm missing something
If the premise is "We're absolutely killing SKrew", then today is better than tomorrow because we will have an additional investigation to add to our reads tomorrow. I'm not in favor of killing Skrew here because his play is null, not really scummy, and a scumflip here puts us in a significantly better position tomorrow. (For one, two scum remaining would give us the potential for using a tracker instead of the cop at night, since tracker results are cop results with only one scum.
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Post Post #3566 (ISO) » Fri Mar 17, 2023 2:40 pm

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Post Post #3567 (ISO) » Fri Mar 17, 2023 2:51 pm

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In post 3548, GuiltyLion wrote: VOTE: furtiveglance
but...
why?
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Post Post #3568 (ISO) » Fri Mar 17, 2023 5:37 pm

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Wait yeah all of GL’s recent stuff about furtive indicated a town lean or at least a desire to vote elsewhere today
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Post Post #3569 (ISO) » Sat Mar 18, 2023 1:41 am

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GuiltyLion scum
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Post Post #3570 (ISO) » Sat Mar 18, 2023 7:06 am

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In post 3568, SleepyKrew wrote: Wait yeah all of GL’s recent stuff about furtive indicated a town lean or at least a desire to vote elsewhere today
No it didn't? If you go back and read my big post near day start, if you treat SK/AD as town there's a lot of gamestate/VCA stuff that points to furtive scum, especially if Ircher slot is town.
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Post Post #3571 (ISO) » Sat Mar 18, 2023 7:07 am

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In post 3328, GuiltyLion wrote:
Spoiler: VCs 2.3, 2.4, 2.5
In post 2825, Thestatusquo wrote:
VoteCount 2.4

Xofelf [ 3 ]
STD, furtiveglance, unowen
Furtiveglance [ 3 ]
LLD, Pooky, Sleepykrew
Actiondan [ 3 ]
Lorne Malvo, Guiltylion, Alisae
Lorne Malvo [ 1 ]
Sheepsaysmeep

Not Voting [ 3 ]

Bingle, Xofelf, Actiondan

With 13 alive it takes 7 votes to be executed.


Countdown to deadline: (expired on 2023-03-10 17:08:00)
In post 2953, Thestatusquo wrote:
VoteCount 2.5

Xofelf [ 3 ]
STD, furtiveglance, unowen
Furtiveglance [ 3 ]
LLD, Pooky, Sleepykrew
Actiondan [ 3 ]
Lorne Malvo, Guiltylion, Alisae
Lorne Malvo [ 2 ]
Sheepsaysmeep, Actiondan

Not Voting [ 2 ]

Bingle, Xofelf

With 13 alive it takes 7 votes to be executed.


Countdown to deadline: (expired on 2023-03-10 17:08:00)
In post 2988, Thestatusquo wrote:
VoteCount 2.6

Xofelf [ 5 ]
STD, furtiveglance, unowen, Bingle, Pooky
Actiondan [ 3 ]
Lorne Malvo, Guiltylion, Alisae
Lorne Malvo [ 2 ]
Sheepsaysmeep, Actiondan
Furtiveglance [ 2 ]
LLD, Sleepykrew

Not Voting [ 1 ]

Xofelf

With 13 alive it takes 7 votes to be executed.


Countdown to deadline: (expired on 2023-03-10 17:08:00)


I think we're like one/two flips away from these VCs being truly useful but if we treat SK/Dan as town, there's some notable action here. the furtive counterwagon to both xof and dan (at 3 votes each) was LLD/Pooky/SK (presumably three town?) and it dismantled once Pooky followed Bingle onto xof. if furtive is town I'd generally expect at least one mafia to be setting themselves up there to ensure that the limpool is locked in at three townies and put themselves in good standing today with any of them flipping. I can imagine that may have been what Lorne was doing with Dan, but if both furtive and SK are town, nobody else was riding LLD's coattails to give them an easy target on D3?

my other thought here is that if furtive is town then it's likely there's a scum in STD/UNOwen/Bingle cause I feel like the slow inevitable momentum of the xof wagon must have had at least one scum comfortably on there throughout the whole day.

I wanna think a bit more about Pooky's thought that scum!furtive doesn't need to advocate against shooting town!xof, it makes sense to me but if the vig list was all town then maybe that's a play for towncred by WKing a slot

also, if Lorne is scum then sheep egging the xof wagon along while staying parked on Lorne remains a bad look

ircher/sheep/furtive feels like too easy and lazy of a solve but I don't think I'd be willing to bet the game on any of them town and they've all kinda been a bit blocked together with their reads on each other all game, even among the players in these slots prior to Ircher and Sheep. I think Ircher would be my choice for lim today though, I kinda vibe with SK on furtive, if he's scum he's chosen to play it by recklessly openscumming to the point of near trolling and that
could
be mafia but it is pretty audacious and I'm inclined to go for more conventionally scummy players in this pool first
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Post Post #3572 (ISO) » Sat Mar 18, 2023 7:11 am

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In post 3565, Bingle wrote: Conversely, to be town he has to have a genuine townread on me that he built from reading primarily the portion of the game where I discuss why AD *should* be cop, be genuinely checked out and not remember that specific part of the game. You know, the one part he's shown knowledge of. Whether he's scum who made up a read on me or scum who is pretending not to know what's going on, both of those are less ridiculous than that he's town who posted:
In post 3268, Ircher wrote: In post , Bingle wrote:
In post , Ircher wrote:
Hi!

I'll try reading up on the last few pages in a few hours.

teal dear:

Game is a smalltown with persistent and publicly assigned PRs. Treasurer determines who gets to act via a funding algorithm that is fully known to LLD and myself, but has only been alluded to publicly. We've been using the cop as a leash on the scum NK, which got us an Enchant kill N1 and theoretically should have gotten us a Skrew kill last night, but Skrew remains alive and well. Your predecessor was actively being useless, so you are a relatively high priority sort for me at least.

What do you mean by "as a leash"? Is the assumption that whoever gets copped will also get night killed?
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In post 3546, Ircher wrote: What prevents scum from killing Dan in the town Skrew case? Then we're just down two townies.
Bingle I'm not really following you here. This seems consistent with town who has barely read the game and is giving you a lazy townread because you seem solvey. I dont see any contradiction in the two posts you quoted, if anything they're the same mindset of someone unaware that there's a doc. Am I missing something?
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Post Post #3573 (ISO) » Sat Mar 18, 2023 7:16 am

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so much for trying not to be condescending

I’ll point out your BS more clearly when I have the time
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Post Post #3574 (ISO) » Sat Mar 18, 2023 7:19 am

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lol nothing cheeses me more than when someone makes a statement about *my* posts that isn't true
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