Open 875 - The Kindgom of Zeal: The Queens Chosen - GAME OVER


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Post Post #700 (ISO) » Sat Mar 18, 2023 7:04 am

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The thing that makes me question now whether Ranger's post comes from mafia is just that it's such a
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response to one vote and sticks out badly in a way Ranger should know better than to do. I find it hard to believe scum!Ranger sounds the alarms and goes into flail mode the first time she gets voted.
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Post Post #701 (ISO) » Sat Mar 18, 2023 8:11 am

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The major sticking point for me is the self-vote. A premature claim in response to an inflated perception of a threat is one thing. Choosing not to engage with LLD on it is one thing.

As a PR that's guaranteed a chance to act tonight if she lives through the day, actively making it easier for her to get eliminated is quite another. And then to just leave her vote parked there the whole time instead of even trying to vote for scumreads is just incomprehensible to me.

As Town with a PR, ESPECIALLY when we know it's either a Cop or a Doc, her priority should be using it. I don't believe Ranger seriously thinks her sitting around waiting to die is actually helpful for anyone, and I definitely don't believe she thinks self-voting is going to do her any favors as Town.
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Post Post #702 (ISO) » Sat Mar 18, 2023 8:20 am

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In post 700, Umlaut wrote: The thing that makes me question now whether Ranger's post comes from mafia is just that it's such a
weird
response to one vote and sticks out badly in a way Ranger should know better than to do. I find it hard to believe scum!Ranger sounds the alarms and goes into flail mode the first time she gets voted.
I think it's a WIFOM AtE. She knows it doesn't make sense to do, and is hoping doing it anyway makes her look like frustrated Town
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Post Post #703 (ISO) » Sat Mar 18, 2023 8:35 am

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i can't believe i'm spouting mech in a game so devoid of mech but ranger is a mechanically bad vote because of our current situation
In post 514, Save The Dragons wrote: if ranger is a n1 doc, she protects furtive and gets killed because scum think she could be a n1 cop.

if ranger is a n1 cop, she dies because scum think she could be a n1 cop.

if ranger is mafia, we can lim her tomorrow. scum aren't going to leave a potential n1 cop alive.
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Post Post #704 (ISO) » Sat Mar 18, 2023 9:02 am

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The Queen is Perfect...
...and absolutely did not forget to add a list of currently players anywhere... Added to the game events post
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Post Post #705 (ISO) » Sat Mar 18, 2023 9:07 am

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In post 703, Save The Dragons wrote: i can't believe i'm spouting mech in a game so devoid of mech but ranger is a mechanically bad vote because of our current situation
In post 514, Save The Dragons wrote: if ranger is a n1 doc, she protects furtive and gets killed because scum think she could be a n1 cop.

if ranger is a n1 cop, she dies because scum think she could be a n1 cop.

if ranger is mafia, we can lim her tomorrow. scum aren't going to leave a potential n1 cop alive.
We have an n1 cop claim - furtive
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Post Post #706 (ISO) » Sat Mar 18, 2023 9:09 am

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you know that there can be multiple right
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Post Post #707 (ISO) » Sat Mar 18, 2023 9:09 am

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yes, but mafia can't kill more than one
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Post Post #708 (ISO) » Sat Mar 18, 2023 9:10 am

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so mafia are going to kill furtive instead of ranger when ranger could be a doctor
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Post Post #709 (ISO) » Sat Mar 18, 2023 9:12 am

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it's optimal for scum to kill ranger because ranger is a potentially a n1 cop or a n1 doc. if they don't kill her, she could have a result. if they try to kill furtive, ranger could potentially block the kill and they've wasted it.
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Post Post #710 (ISO) » Sat Mar 18, 2023 9:15 am

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There could be another n1 doc
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Post Post #711 (ISO) » Sat Mar 18, 2023 9:16 am

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In post 523, Save The Dragons wrote: i guess someone could doc ranger n1 that's a potential flaw but i'd recommend not doing that
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Post Post #712 (ISO) » Sat Mar 18, 2023 9:17 am

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I feel like if we play this way our odds of hitting mafia today are so bad we might as well nolim
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Post Post #713 (ISO) » Sat Mar 18, 2023 9:18 am

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why
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Post Post #714 (ISO) » Sat Mar 18, 2023 9:22 am

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any scum run up will just claim something we won't elim
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Post Post #715 (ISO) » Sat Mar 18, 2023 9:22 am

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that's not necessarily true

we have enough N1 claims to decide to be dubious of another one
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Post Post #716 (ISO) » Sat Mar 18, 2023 9:23 am

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im not sure that's really how probability works
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Post Post #717 (ISO) » Sat Mar 18, 2023 9:23 am

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like i have a plan to leash the scum kill my work here is done i'm ready to kill someone regardless of claim
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Post Post #718 (ISO) » Sat Mar 18, 2023 9:25 am

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i dont think that plan will work but maybe you're town for thinking it will
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Post Post #719 (ISO) » Sat Mar 18, 2023 9:26 am

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Post Post #720 (ISO) » Sat Mar 18, 2023 9:26 am

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my plan is brilliant 10/10 no flaws
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Post Post #721 (ISO) » Sat Mar 18, 2023 9:35 am

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In post 718, Cephrir wrote: i dont think that plan will work but maybe you're town for thinking it will
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Post Post #722 (ISO) » Sat Mar 18, 2023 9:41 am

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let me have this
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Post Post #723 (ISO) » Sat Mar 18, 2023 11:12 am

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How do I help to progress this day
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Post Post #724 (ISO) » Sat Mar 18, 2023 11:36 am

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StD's right, and I'd had the same thought myself. I do think hitting scum should take priority over being mechanically safe, but I would move for another strong scum candidate.

Honestly kinda not liking Cephrir's reactions here
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