In post 2198, Wavelength wrote:
Enchant, I am going to take a page out of Pinkball's playbook and ask:
Is there ever a chance that you are voting for Pinkball this day phase? Like, are you reading my posts and considering that possibility? Or am I wasting my time?
And same for Flea when ever fea comes back to the thread
Like, I feel like arguing that we kill Pinkball is the only way to play to a potential win con.
But also, you (enchant) seem like you are not even reading most of the posts of this game.
And Flea has also not engaged with me when I asked a few times why they even think that No Elim is good here.
I have also not really sat down and truly figured out if it makes sense for scum to be willing to compromise on killing pink ball > no elim here? I should probably think it through from that PoV too.
In post 2202, Pink Ball wrote:
You're either scum convincing the remaining town to vote with you, or town expecting that the remaining scum votes with you
In post 2201, Wavelength wrote:
I have also not really sat down and truly figured out if it makes sense for scum to be willing to compromise on killing pink ball > no elim here? I should probably think it through from that PoV too.
In post 2207, Enchant wrote:
Okay presuming you get my vote. But you really expect support from Flea?
This seemed like a more likely possibility when Pinkball was pushing Flea / threatening to eat Flea, then it does now that his vote has moved over to me.
In post 2210, Enchant wrote:
Why you not consider no-lim strongly better though?
What makes no-lim a better option?
I have asked you and flea both this (while explaining what I saw the benefits were to killing pinkball) and neither of you answered
Regardless if Pink is Survivor or Killer, he has incentive to kill mafia at night.
If survivor stops kill and finish game hopefully.
If SK, well why not?
Like even if it goes like he wants where mafia kills me and he no actions, it's simple enough to vote him and mafia will follow suit: Like hell they risk beliving potential SK instead of just letting him die and win guarantee.
Wizard-Mercenary
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At this point town!Wave already realize that he's never getting scum!Flea's vote and just assumes they lost or trusts me as their only last hope.
Scum!Wave however knows that he loses if we no vote 'cause I'm targetting him so he can't win if I'm a Survivor or a Killer.
Scum!Wave's only chance of winning is by eliminating me today.
In post 2215, Pink Ball wrote:
Scum!Wave however knows that he loses if we no vote 'cause I'm targetting him so he can't win if I'm a Survivor or a Killer.
Ah yes, lets explain my actions using a motivation that was not even there for most of the time that I have been doing those actions.
Like, I had this stance even when you said that you were sure that I was town and that flea was scum.
If only his kill goes through, then we come back to 3p elo tomorrow. No matter who he ate, he claims that they were confirmed town to him when he ate them, and he was wrong, and it is ____.
And we will have no way to distinguish between:
Pinkball ate the last mafia and is lying
vs
Pinkball and the last mafia doubled up on the same target
And we will be back at having the exact same argument on whether he has a SK win con or if he has a Survivor win con.
But if you guys are set on doing a no elim, I literally don't have the power to stop you.
I will also admit, that at least a portion of my conviction on Killing Pinkball > No Elim comes from having tried and failed to kill Pinkball for the last 2 consecutive day phases, and not really wanting to fail at that again.
In post 2215, Pink Ball wrote:
Scum!Wave however knows that he loses if we no vote 'cause I'm targetting him so he can't win if I'm a Survivor or a Killer.
Ah yes, lets explain my actions using a motivation that was not even there for most of the time that I have been doing those actions.
Like, I had this stance even when you said that you were sure that I was town and that flea was scum.
If only his kill goes through, then we come back to 3p elo tomorrow. No matter who he ate, he claims that they were confirmed town to him when he ate them, and he was wrong, and it is ____.
And we will have no way to distinguish between:
Pinkball ate the last mafia and is lying
vs
Pinkball and the last mafia doubled up on the same target
And we will be back at having the exact same argument on whether he has a SK win con or if he has a Survivor win con.
Well, yes. Exactly. Situtation will not really change.
But we will give chance if he is real survivor though and eats mafia. If not, well, just vote him and then roll for "If dying players can come back".
Wizard-Mercenary
You need replacement/players ASAP? PM me! I almost always accept.
If only his kill goes through, then we come back to 3p elo tomorrow. No matter who he ate, he claims that they were confirmed town to him when he ate them, and he was wrong, and it is ____.
And we will have no way to distinguish between:
Pinkball ate the last mafia and is lying
vs
Pinkball and the last mafia doubled up on the same target
And we will be back at having the exact same argument on whether he has a SK win con or if he has a Survivor win con.
Well, yes. Exactly. Situtation will not really change.
But we will give chance if he is real survivor though and eats mafia. If not, well, just vote him and then roll for "If dying players can come back".
What ever. I guess I am failing for the third time in a row