Mini Normal 2294: Monkey Business (Endgame)

[Elsa Jay]

Hi. I'm here. Totally not scum this game. Nope.

Why do I feel like your gonna steal my normal gimmick this game of doing stuff like this? Then again, you literally picked a known liar as your name. So eh.

Anyway the Queen demands blood. There can only be one magical girl.

VOTE: Magical Girl

[Elsa Jay]

Hi. I'm here. Totally not scum this game. Nope.

Why do I feel like your gonna steal my normal gimmick this game of doing stuff like this? Then again, you literally picked a known liar as your name. So eh.

I don't think I've played with you, so I wouldn't know what your normal gimmick is. And if I'm a known liar, shouldn't that mean I'm scum then?

If only scum can lie, then town would always lose.

Edit: lmao.

[Elsa Jay]

Ah crap, good gal MG is actually cool.

VOTE: Dionysus

I think this is either a Greek god or something related? I got a B- in school once because of that. So I shall get rid of it now.

[Elsa Jay]

Oh yeah the party god. Ehh.

I hate alcohol anyway.

[Elsa Jay]

Both irl and in character, yes. Eternal winter during Happy Hour wouldn't be fun for anyone. Losing control is not appealing to me either.

[Elsa Jay]

Eh. Day 1 is where you make allies as town to work with, or to pocket people as scum. Plus reading the rules we get 10 irl days on day 1 only and 7 afterwards. Rather use day 1 to get to know my

victims

fellow players and see who I can work with or who will literally scum read me based off of my personality alone.

[Elsa Jay]

I mean, my votes don't really matter on the first page of the game? I don't see how anyone can make a read off of those. Literally said one was to become the only MG, the other is cuz Greek Gods are a little overrated.

Plus Gimli seems to be joking or being sarcastic because of what Gera said? The reads are pulled out of a hat. Nothing serious yet.

[Elsa Jay]

... sometimes I genuinely wonder how other people see the world. Seeing other people react to me joking around as if that's scum.

I'll put Comus under scummy for now for literally acting like a predator and immediately jumping to get all the focus on me for presumably a future mis elim. Gimli can stay neutral for now.

[Elsa Jay]

I think we should kill elsa jay and magical girl so i will remain as only magical user here

It seems better to make a temporary alliance then instead? We can kill each other after the mortals disappear.

[Elsa Jay]

... sometimes I genuinely wonder how other people see the world. Seeing other people react to me joking around as if that's scum.

I'll put Comus under scummy for now for literally acting like a predator and immediately jumping to get all the focus on me for presumably a future mis elim. Gimli can stay neutral for now.

Why do you think Comus isn't just aggressive town? Why do you think his posts so far have specifically been about getting all the focus on you?

Honestly scum continuously always try and get my aggressive/joking style seen as scum first things first and don't like to RVS as much IME. Gimli pointing it out as a townie mindset just made me want to counter that immediately.

Edit: LET ME POST DANG IT

[Elsa Jay]

I mean Comus is explaining himself. He's just very wrong and taking MG's alt slip as actual AI information. Or is scum trying to twist it into easy A.I. information.

VOTE: Comus

First vote that isn't a meme. Comus can actually use this vote as evidence.

[Elsa Jay]

Pre-emptive strike to not let Comus use an alt slip as literally anything. It just seems scummy to do. Setting a precedent that I'm afraid of MG via meta that Comus doesn't even know is also a big reach.

I see no issues here Ausuka.

[Elsa Jay]

I mean if I don't bare my fangs I'll get labelled an easy target later. I just am genre-savy enough to see future shade being thrown based off of statements like what Comus is making.

Still also weird you think me having an RVS vote is me preying on others too. Or maybe that's just for me using predator earlier. Either way, if something elsa comes up I'll move my vote but rn it's good where it is.

I'll shut up for now and wait to interact with the other players tho. Seems more useful to not take all day on this argument.

[Elsa Jay]

Can't speak about Gera too much other then it's seems in character when I played with them a year ago. They're fine. People who agree with me are allies I can't afford to throw away until evidence is given to show guilt, in which case I turn on a dime. But I'm loyal to my allies.

[Elsa Jay]

I wish I had a pool. My 350 dollar lessons as a kid would be useful for something then. I'll have to use the public pool in the summer.

[Elsa Jay]

I have now defeated Comus in this battle of wills. I am happy now.

[Elsa Jay]

I mean. He's already basically agreed to ignore me for now, and he's shutting down convos with Gera too. I just wanted him to not use an alt slip as game relevant info and then he goes on saying he technically never said he scumread me yet. If he didn't want to acknowledge me I won't do it for him either.

If I don't challenge people how will I read them? I read intentions best when they're aimed at me. I saw him potentially setting up something to use against me and MG later and I shut it down.

[Elsa Jay]

For someone who said they didn't want to talk to me anymore you seem to want to still talk about me and make me want to respond to you.

[Elsa Jay]

It's boring for you, frustrating for me. He'll have to work for a townread from me, if he ever gets one.

[Elsa Jay]

I say 15 pages is good enough to prove thyself.

I'm back from work and sleep now. Whoo.

[Elsa Jay]

Salsa somehow having the townreads and the scumreads mixed up is nice. Ausuka is alright tho.

[Elsa Jay]

If I contribute you'll snark back and we'll waste all 10 days on you and me arguing. I'll interact with Salsa and Ausuka and see if I can gets a better read on you by proxy.

[Elsa Jay]

Gimli, why is Kawaii your vote here? I'm trying to see an angle but the posts don't align there at all.

[Elsa Jay]

Page 10 Gera, but honestly I always know one person flakes a game they sign up for so we'll wait for whoever shows up to do that. Unless you know Nep is someone who flakes as scum then by all means tell us. But that's also boring so let's focus on who's actually here for now.

Edit: Kawaii, did you read Comus' perspective about the MG alt slip having any weight, or did it look like he was setting up for something later with that? I want to be sure it's not just me seeing something there, because I don't get why someone would hold that much weight in something like that. That set me off my tangent about him in the first place. He also never retracted that either to my knowledge.

Part 3 I guess: yeah Gimli's vote seemed basically almost RVS kinda bad.

[Elsa Jay]

I dunno. At this point I gave up on that point since nobody elsa really cared enough about it, but it set me off, so just wanted one last check to see if it was something.

In other news, rereading the low posters ISOs and realized Kokichi was basically playing narrator without giving an opinion on anything, so if he could give say something on any of the voted people that would be nice. Wine God dipped but I'll interact with him if he gets back. Nono hopped on me in one post but the rest is useless stuff.

Edit: I'm solving other people in piece dude kindly actually interact with other people and stop riding one for now Comus.

[Elsa Jay]

Honestly Kawaii you give me mediating PR townie who's trying to see who to investigate. I'd probably shoot you if I was scum here but that's just me. Voting you seems stupid.

[Elsa Jay]

Then to be vague as hell, your town and shouldn't be voted today.

Rereading Gimli and Enchant with less Comus viewed eyes and also realize they're neutral to scummy to me. Need to interact with them both again to see if I stand with the Gimli push or if he's just being vote happy. Enchant's post are subpar.

MG, Gera, Kawaii, and one of Ausuka or Salsa are definitely good even if the last two don't town read me. Comus is a crappy push today so...

Think Ive spoken my piece on everyone now.

[Elsa Jay]

Oma-Sama plz. Grace the mortals with your knowledge of the scum team. You clearly stole the information while the Mod wasn't looking. At least one of them for now, please.

[Elsa Jay]

Vote Count 1.0.2



Gimli (3) geraintm, Enchant, Salsabil Faria,
Elsa Jay (3) Ausuka, Nono, Comus

Enchant (2) Magical Girl, Gimli,

Kokichi Oma (1) KawaiiKame
Ausuka (1) Kokichi Oma,
Comus (1) Elsa Jay,

Not Voting (2) Dionysus, nepenthe,

With 13 players it takes 7 to eliminate.
Deadline: (expired on 2023-03-15 21:26:00)

so, in the aim of getting day 1 over with as quick as possible VOTE: Elsa Jay
i will continue for the rest of today to follow the wisdom of the crowd

?!?!?!?

Okay not only is ending day 1 so soon such a stupid idea when it's the one day we get extra time for, didn't you have other people to actually scumhunt for? Gera why.

[Elsa Jay]

Not that people want my opinion on my own wagon, but frankly I'm more afraid the lurkers and/or the replacements are gonna do a "catch up" post and vote me without reading the current VC. I also would like Nono to participate again cuz they disappeared after voting me.

My previous Salsa or Ausuka read is updated to both of them being town and the crappy vote and explanation leads Gera to nullscum. Enchant's posts are still mia and I don't remember any game pushing content from that slot still.

So currently the five people I'd vote are: Nono, Enchant, Gera, Gimli, and ... I guess Dionysus.

Edit: who is T3? In guess an alt since I see no names with 3 T's to use that Nickname with.

[Elsa Jay]

No Oma, your doing the thing I do when I'm bored and act scummy to get people to interact with you. That's townie.

[Elsa Jay]

elsa has tremendously sharp reads

almost a wolf TMIing but I'm sure it's just town playing good

I don't know if one of the guys on my voting list should be complimenting my reads but I'll take it since I get so few of them usually.

[Elsa Jay]

Will said ally be helpful then or sink me like a cinder block into a lake? I'd rather not drown helping you.

Edit; yeah, probably.

VOTE: Enchant

[Elsa Jay]

Hmmmm
3 in {Enchant, Dionysus, Salsabil, Nono}?
I don’t have time like yesterday to look things over in details so I think I’m gonna sleep on this.

I... Well 3 of those are in my 5 wanted wagons. I thought there would be more disagreement tbh.

[Elsa Jay]

Usually open setup games are the ones that become easy after scum screw up and town knows the power roles and enough townies to auto win it

[Elsa Jay]

You can add Comus to it for some spice if you want.

[Elsa Jay]

I can already see the off chance Gimli flips town I'm getting hard tunneled day 2 without Comus so much looking at anyone elsa. I did also post reads but no comment there either.

Kokichi you actually solving yet or are you stalling until day 2?

[Elsa Jay]

I can already see the off chance Gimli flips town I'm getting hard tunneled day 2 without Comus so much looking at anyone elsa. I did also post reads but no comment there either.

Kokichi you actually solving yet or are you stalling until day 2?

the off chance?

I mean. You crawled your way back to null for me but I don't know how much that'll save you there. Did you think of another wagon to start?

Edit: make up your mind Gimli. Antagonizing me won't help your chances.

Edit:... Et tu, Kame?

[Elsa Jay]

I already switched there earlier bro.

[Elsa Jay]

Not that people want my opinion on my own wagon, but frankly I'm more afraid the lurkers and/or the replacements are gonna do a "catch up" post and vote me without reading the current VC. I also would like Nono to participate again cuz they disappeared after voting me.

My previous Salsa or Ausuka read is updated to both of them being town and the crappy vote and explanation leads Gera to nullscum. Enchant's posts are still mia and I don't remember any game pushing content from that slot still.

So currently the five people I'd vote are: Nono, Enchant, Gera, Gimli, and ... I guess Dionysus.

Edit: who is T3? In guess an alt since I see no names with 3 T's to use that Nickname with.

Will said ally be helpful then or sink me like a cinder block into a lake? I'd rather not drown helping you.

Edit; yeah, probably.

VOTE: Enchant

Also posted my read list again while I'm at it that Comus missed. Bleh.

[Elsa Jay]

Or save a Mislim by going against the grain of me or Gimli tbh.

[Elsa Jay]

I'm saying if MG was scum it would be easy to give up and let me or Gimli die without much effort instead of enforcing we should get Enchant instead. Seems like a townie mindset there that should be heard more, since apparently she can also see it's a scum meta tell.

[Elsa Jay]

Truly a fake magical ally of justice.

Edit: that wasn't directed at Gimli? Hmm. Also I posted that list before MG posted hers, so those weren't influenced. I added you as a joke. You just don't like my jokes so it was for other people.

Personally think it's sharp because I genuinely think at least 2 of the scum are in my read list. I'll know more when we have flips.

[Elsa Jay]

He's just a Not_Mafia copycat, ignore it. But still try and not be at E-1.

[Elsa Jay]

I don't like that either tbh. But accidental hammers happen too, so uh. Try to convince on of the town people on it to unvote you. Preferably not by making Comus vote me again.

[Elsa Jay]

I'll respond to you when I feel you wanna be serious as well friend. Right now you aren't serious enough.

Edit: now you're just being petty.

[Elsa Jay]

I know, I usually do that as scum too. But you seem to be using this moment to keep the wagons equal instead of being actually offended I'm discrediting you.

I was always a Komaeda fan more then an Oma fan anyways.

[Elsa Jay]

Nah, my luck usually always gets me a PR role to claim when I'm on the stand. You just aren't good enough to kill me.

Edit: that was for Oma claiming to hammer Gimli at E-1, not you. But I guess we'll considering Gimli with 2 extra votes then.

[Elsa Jay]

Said the guy with post number 666.

[Elsa Jay]

You could at least listen or use the newer one of Into the Unknown. Personally like that one better if you could believe it.

[Elsa Jay]

Listen to the Panic at the Disco cover, personally. His voice makes it better.

The lurkers are gonna lurk as they always do. Usually they get vigged or replaced sooner or later. Nono's the one that's mostly bad since the posting was just a quick easy early game sheep. Hoping Dio actually comes back and posts something.

[Elsa Jay]

Hey actually fair

I create my own town faction from this point.

What's it called? Enchantia?

The Wicked Wolves.

[Elsa Jay]

Annnnd there's scum or lazy town vote parking already. Wonderful.

[Elsa Jay]

Page bottom so my next post isn't here.

[Elsa Jay]

I never called elsa bleeding town and I think she can be scum, i just also think she is a horrible d1 kill

What do you think about voting Elsa?

since enchant decided to post a few townie things I think that'd be okay actually

Elsa Jay, what do you think about how Gimli continues to flip-flop on you? He has been doing it from the start. In one breath cautions against you being voted, says even if you are scum we should be voting someone else. In the next breath says you can be scum. Now he's suddenly willing to vote you? Why are you now on the table, just because Enchant has done, well nothing much in fact?

His reasoning is lacklustre. It doesn't exist truthfully. From one page to another he changes his mind on you like a kite swept away by the wind, whirling and twirling every which way without direction.

Bleh. At this point yeah Gimli your being too damn weird. At least people like Kokichi are obvious in their agenda, you literally keep mentioning stuff like TMI and stuff just because I like to sound confident. Can't believe it but now Comus is actually probably a better ally for me at this point. I still trust MG's thought process on Enchant possibly being better to go after, but yeah I don't really trust you flip flopping to my death.

VOTE: Gimli

Look forward to hearing thatvreason Nepe

i don't find their play sincere in that their overreactions to being voted read way more as scared mafia "pr" than scared town (vanilla or otherwise) to me so i assume they're some kind of scum one-shot who hasn't been able to use their ability and won't if they're lynched today because otherwise, i don't see anyone who is actually town caring so much to the point they're that thrown each time someone mentions them and doesn't follow it with a tr. i'm not buying it, i think it was gimil who called them "bleeding town" (may have been someone else, i can fact check, don't @ me) which to me reads as a much more sincere (but imo incorrect) read than anything elsa's outed all game.

So I sound like a scared PR, huh? Oh jeez Nep, why would someone sound like a scared yet active PR? I wonder. I really do.

For your information my style literally developed from rolling scum on my first game on this site followed by PR, scum, Open games, PR, Scum 2 more times, 3 more PRs, a Miller who wanted to play a fun game, scum 2 more times, Mason PGO and tracker games, and before my break 5 scum games in a row. VT games were rare and spread in between all that.

Of my 3 main accounts I've used on site plus some hydras, out of 40-50 games I've been in, only like 6 or 7 times I've been VT. I play like this because at this point I always am either scum, a town PR, or VT who is going to claim a town PR since it's easier then being VT. I'm aggressive because it helps me stay alive and scum think I'm an easy target because I play like this. I'm not.

Speaking of that, I'm claiming a Modified Cop variant. Will check either Ausuka or Nep if I live through today. I'll claim now since clearly the shade at me won't stop regardless, but I'll make my viewpoint clear. I'm not afraid to actually play this game and help town however I can. You should actually get the people not even trying ATM.

[Elsa Jay]

Didn't take too long to immediately turn on me there Gimli. Sad times.

[Elsa Jay]

Didn't take too long to immediately turn on me there Gimli. Sad times.

but you voted me first and I offered you my friendship first, what am I chopped liver?

but anyway since you claimed a thing I guess you can kill me now

I offered an alliance with you and you just kinda... Kept getting progressively worse through the day. Sorry man.

[Elsa Jay]

Were they even E-2 when they claimed?

E-3 but gerain was most likely going to hop on with more traction

Yeah that's a terrible claim then. Vote Elsa

At work rn but it isn't terrible. A terrible claim is doing it at E-1 to lie or with less then 24 hours left so people can't think and quickwagon another. Claiming early as I am while all of you still want me dead is speeding up the process and giving us the ability to use the day on other people.

[Elsa Jay]

To actually do shit and help town. Thought that was clear Enchant.

[Elsa Jay]

Do you want a cookie for doing a basic townie thing? And that's only 2 people. Do more.

[Elsa Jay]

Yeah, voting the cop claim sure does help your case there buddy. You get a broccoli cookie for your efforts.

[Elsa Jay]

i think comus is scummy after page 2 im not sure i like some of his takes

I knew I wasn't alone. I'm holding this for bragging rights later.

[Elsa Jay]

I always laugh slightly when I see his name abbreviated like that.

[Elsa Jay]

But we are definitely not limming the claimed investigative today. If Elsa is indeed a town PR, have scum sort her for us with a nightkill. If she is scum, then she can’t bs her way out for too long unless she decides to keep innoing townies which is a plus for us. (Innoing scum is a risk because if caught that’s 1+1 deal for town)

Let's see how you talk when elsa fakes guilty on you and gets free mislim.

Why would I do it to the one gal I've been thinking is town the entire game almost?

My list is still Ausuka, Nep, and probably Dragon since the Salsa slot seems like a decent choice at least. People like Kokichi and Enchant just uh... Seem like a waste because frankly they'll solve themselves I think. Rather see who among the rest is good/bad.

[Elsa Jay]

Can't check a dead guy. If you survive, quite frankly that's your miracle and I don't wanna waste day 2 on me clearing or guiltying you. We'd just do day 1 over again.

[Elsa Jay]

People like Kokichi and Enchant just uh... Seem like a waste because frankly they'll solve themselves I think.

How?

Same reason I don't really use a cop check on a player like NotMaf? Them being clear only means they screw around more. Them being confirmed evil is getting a scum out sure but...

Say if I know your good. I would actually trust someone like you to actually try and help the town. A confirmed useless townie is never too helpful. so I go for people that are more likely to be helpful for town to know the alignment of.

[Elsa Jay]

Most PRs also don't wanna be at E-1 with lurkers and someone who's admitted to wanting to quick hammer in the wing.

Frankly if I outted later nobody would believe me and I'd die and you'd all be down a PR. So sorry I didn't let you hammer me easily, Enchant.

[Elsa Jay]

Your claiming that to kill me fuck off. Nobody actually CC's day 1.

[Elsa Jay]

Your claiming that to kill me fuck off. Nobody actually CC's day 1.

They definitely do

I mean enchant isn't but that is a bad mindset to have imo

Outting yourself day 1 to CC is crappy because even if you CC scum you just get yourself killed and town loses a PR who gets no results dying night 1. No townie should ever CC day 1 if they're investigative so they can actually use their role and not die.

[Elsa Jay]

Bleh. If this game only has 2 investigates and a vig or something then it's super bad for others to claim. Didn't want Enchant to use a joke as a jumping off point for his shenanigans. Already proved my jumpiness with Course.

[Elsa Jay]

At work talk later Comus Nep

[Elsa Jay]

At work talk later Comus Nep

As some of you joked about this being for a scum PT let me phrase this better.

'im at work and now I'm in trouble for phone posting too much so now I have to turn off my phone. I'll talk to you when I get back. I wanted to discuss with Comus and Nep with the state of the game when I return to help get a read on them again'.

I fell asleep when I got home because apparently I forgot Daylight savings was a thing again and knew I needed to sleep well fory next shift. Bleh.

Anyway Nep also dipped it seems so now I dunno what to do with so many dead slots.

No Lim almost seems stupid enough to work, but that just means scum probably shoots one of the active people we got left. So before that we should get rid of one of the lurker slots I think?

VOTE: Nono

[Elsa Jay]

I believe I also qualify as an active person?

[Elsa Jay]

Wanting to lim inactive slots only seems short sighted

It's hard to play a game when a third of us are gone.

Freezing deadline at 4 days until replacements are found.

Woohoo.

[Elsa Jay]

I won’t really be here today so consider this a prod dodge until tonight or so.

Same because new management basically told me if I'm on my phone at work now I'll get fired, so I'll try and respond when I get back tonight.

Anyway welcome Klick thanks for actually coming.

[Elsa Jay]

VOTE: Kokichi

Kawaii votes bad. Don't see why theres votes there. Kokichi dying sounds better then Enchant dying. So if someone has to die it'll be him. Back to lurking I go.

[Elsa Jay]

Where's MG I want a VC. Or the mod, but MG is faster at it.

[Elsa Jay]

As a person on MafSepia that shiz is hard to read. Why is Comus typing in color again?

[Elsa Jay]

That kind of logic almost makes me feel you joined this game specifically to kill me Menal. Bleh.

Doesn't help we have 3 or 4 people here who don't play "normal". What a fun time.

[Elsa Jay]

Yo MG what was that post in the main thread about? We can play it off as a joke but don't give us away like that k?

Anyway who should I roleblock? Thinking Ausuka.

[Elsa Jay]

bout to sleep but wondeful to be back in the game. Sad it costed us one of the few people who didn't immediately want me dead. Got decent information too.

[Elsa Jay]

bout to sleep but wondeful to be back in the game. Sad it costed us one of the few people who didn't immediately want me dead. Got decent information too.

I want you to be honest about this btw Elsa. I know you are a gambit player and that's fine but I do think it has some actual relevance now

Yeah. I got a loud thing from you like you mentioned, I think. A visionary thing also mentioned I got targeted by a miscellaneous action which I assume you count as. Is that new?

Oh yeah and because at this point he'll get himself killed otherwise Gimli is currently cop cleared by me. Didn't wanna have to deal with that today. Can we get Kokichi today or nah?

[Elsa Jay]

Just looked up visionary after mentioning that, and yep. Added September 2022 right after my last break started. Cool concept tbh. Will fake claim that in a different game.

[Elsa Jay]

It would confirm a protective or a roleblock or something on a cop if needed. Depends on the setup it seems.

In this case it confirmed you didn't loudly roleblock me or something.

I think the Voyeur results are like
Protective
Investigative
Killing
Other

It could be more specific but "visiting" is definitely in the Other category.

[Elsa Jay]

Oh yeah and Roleblock. That's 5 category's. I'm good at math.

Edit: I mean I am but yeah I'll insist until I'm dead.

[Elsa Jay]

I thought you were just a loud compulsive visitor or something?

[Elsa Jay]

Oh yeah and Roleblock. That's 5 category's. I'm good at math.

Edit: I mean I am but yeah I'll insist until I'm dead.

Commute - Commuter
Blocking - Roleblocker, Rolestopper, Alien, Shield
Jailkeep - Jailkeeper
Protection - Doctor, Bodyguard, Babysitter (when it protects)
Miscellaneous - Neighborizer, Friendly Neighbor, Hider, Fruit Vendor, Visitor, Mailman, Checker
Kill - Mafia factional kill, SK factional kill, Strongman, Vigilante, Babysitter (when it kills)
Role Investigation - Cop, Gunsmith, Role Cop, Vanilla Cop, Neapolitan, Psychologist, Detective, Traffic Analyst, PT Cop, Finder
Action Investigation - Tracker, Watcher, Voyeur, Follower, Motion Detector, Role Watcher, Reporter, Inspector, Security Guard, Visionary

Well I'll remember that when I actually fake claim it. I just repeated what a Visionary gave me.

Edit: wait wut. Does visionary count itself?

[Elsa Jay]

Miscellaneous - Neighborizer, Friendly Neighbor, Hider, Fruit Vendor, Visitor, Mailman, Checker

Well I didn't get invited to a neighborhood so that one's out. No friendly neighbor proclaiming their innocence to me. No fruit or mail either. Hider would definitely not wanna hide on me since I probs would've been killed unless they're weak and wanted to confirm me? Visitor is Eh. Checker would definitely want to know If I'm a liar or not so maybe that.

Conclusion: I got picked by a Checker, a Ballsy Hider, or just a random visitor?

[Elsa Jay]

Conclusion: I got picked by a Checker, a Ballsy Hider, or just a random visitor?

I'm the Hider

Lmao.

Knew I PR read you earlier.

[Elsa Jay]

... if you wanted to claim Tracker you should've been simpler with your words Comus. Unless that's the point and your wording it like that to make me think your claiming tracker on Enchant. Bleh.

VOTE: Enchant

This game is weird already. Why not?

[Elsa Jay]

Don't believe the Ausuka thing, that's just paranoia. We'll kill Kokichi day 3 if it's legit for you since we'll have time to spare.

Edit: Rock-Paper-Scissor a PM to the Mod. Whoever wins that game is the one playing good this game. The other is a sore loser and has to try harder.

[Elsa Jay]

Says goodbye three times.
Acts like Mod slipped and sent him the scum team by accident.
Refuses to elaborate further and leaves.

God Comus if your bullcrapping us just say so or tell Implosion to reset the game or something. I already played a game once where mod let a player replace in but it was an alt of a spectator who hounded me and my team without explicitly saying so. They got banned for cheating later.

As long as you confirm it isn't you abusing Implosion not having the Mod Thread I'll listen to ya but just focus on if you actually have a guilty or not.

Enchant what are you doing now. Having both you and Kokichi voting me just makes your case on me worse.

[Elsa Jay]

That's less threatening without you being here in person, Enchant. Slightly rude too but that's okay.

[Elsa Jay]

If we're done talking then you wouldn't have responded. Are you sad I didn't include you in the magical alliance so you murdered MG in retaliation? Very petty if true.

[Elsa Jay]

TL;DR wow drink a chill pill. Ausuka/Kokichi/Enchant is the wolf team. No idea what abyss your mind wanders but it needs to see the truth.

Adieu.

-FIN-

You get bouncy when you get cheated out of wins from cheaters before. Just wanted confirmation it wasn't something stupid going on.

I'll just your Enchant thing and ignore the Ausuka thing for now. Kokichi is always a good compromise.

[Elsa Jay]

That post was for Enchant being salty not you Comus.

[Elsa Jay]

Message received. Bleh.

Anyway will be back tonight so hopefully everyone shows up.

[Elsa Jay]

Think about it. Why out of all players, YOU was "checked"?

Did Elsa even express scumread on you?

Cuz at least I know with a clear Gimli will be helpful. You and Kokichi are just riding on me supposedly fake claiming and trying to kill me with no other game solve.

I've said this in the past but cop checks are meant for people your unsure of, not people obviously scummy.

[Elsa Jay]

VOTE: Kokichi

[Elsa Jay]

Think about it. Why out of all players, YOU was "checked"?

Did Elsa even express scumread on you?

Cuz at least I know with a clear Gimli will be helpful. You and Kokichi are just riding on me supposedly fake claiming and trying to kill me with no other game solve.

I've said this in the past but cop checks are meant for people your unsure of, not people obviously scummy.

why were you unsure of gimli tho? I feel like gimli is fairly clearly town (need to check based on events) but pretty much everyone bar ausuka has him as town -- it would've been much more helpful if even instead of targeting an obvscum player, you'd targeted someone who was unclear to thread in general

I mean, I don't think you're cop, but even within the claim choosing gimli seems like a v poor choice that I struggle to understand

Didn't want a day 1 situation to happen again, so I cleared him so we can focus on getting rid of someone better. Admittedly if someone elsa did it other then me the clear would mean something more but frankly they killed MG who was one of the few defending my play, so if you don't see Mafia trying to Lim me today that's not good.

That and I said during my claim post I was checking Ausuka or Gimli and Ausuka claimed something weird before the night phase so I went with Gimli instead of a random.

[Elsa Jay]

Bro wtf

[Elsa Jay]

Thought hider generally had the weak modifier to act like a weird cop that dies if they check an evil? But also can't be killed if targeted.

Plus general if you prove someone is a hider like Kawaii claiming it was them who I saw through the vision, it's hard to say but I never have seen a game with a Hider as scum? Isn't that one of those roles that are basically always town?

[Elsa Jay]

That's just covered with the traditional wincon of Scum having 50% of the player list left, Enchant. But you know that already. Bleh.

[Elsa Jay]

What happened to my scumteam with enchant and kokichi

Where did it go

I miss my scumbuddies

Yeah I don't care. Elsa and Kawaii are faking it. You refuse to vote them? To consider looking at them? I'm done here.

How'd you somehow get to the conclusion that all 3 people claiming PR are the bad guys? It blows my mind.

Like. Logically that would have to mean from your perspective that Ausuka is claiming loud Visionary, I agree and follow up and say a misc action targets me when I didn't even know what that meant, and then Kawaii is the only person claiming said action as a hide? And all of those steps is a lie? The scum team magically all deciding to band together to fake claim and power elim the entire world?

How is this a solve your going for? Agree with Kokichi for once. Your scumreading everyone.

[Elsa Jay]

We're still waiting for that modifier Elsa. I'll let you cook.

As I said to gera, I'll case this, what fun that's gonna be.

I'm a Soul Cop. I visit and get a Soul Read on the person. Usually very accurate.

I also Jailkeep them on the side but that's a different matter entirely.

VOTE: Comus

[Elsa Jay]

Thought they were PR and didn't want to block them? I mean you won't believe me with anything I say about my role, but I at least promise when it comes to other people interacting with me I always tell the truth. Ausuka is really a Visionary. I only lie for myself, not others.

[Elsa Jay]

Trust me it won't be the wolves that do it.

[Elsa Jay]

If it makes you feel better Gimli definitely didn't do anything evil last night, killing or otherwise?

[Elsa Jay]

the fundamental question is always: who can I get the votes on?

regardless of if you're town or scum. I think I can get the votes on you and that you have a decent chance of flipping scum

So you push me because i am easy. Thanks for admitting though.

I mean as the days pass by our options get more limited. Amazingly enough I would also accept you dying even over Kokichi rn. Such is life.

And I know Menal would kill me if I was in Enchant's position as well but that's why I tried not to be there.

Edit: already was my first vote of the day? Or was it Oma? Bleh.

[Elsa Jay]

And each passing moment I wonder how this town is going to win with me Enchant and Kokichi as the three stooges, Ausuka trying to lead but being undermined, Gimli giving up, Comus saying everyone but himself is wolf, and Gera and someone else disappearing. Had to look up and see it was Skygazer.

Menal, Klick. You two replaced in. Solve this game for us plz.

[Elsa Jay]

Thank you.

[Elsa Jay]

I mean. We've been here before Gimli. Still not evil.

[Elsa Jay]

jailkeep inno is a lot softer than cop inno, and jailkeep is less verifiable by ausuka's so elsa's claim change is bad. still happy with my vote there

*Pokes with stick*

[Elsa Jay]

It was modified becuz I didn't feel like claiming cop anymore with the roles revealed. Nothing weird like being evil.

[Elsa Jay]

Elsa I would like to ask again about the broad intent behind claiming cop as jailkeeper

I didn't wanna die, and people like Enchant would've been able to just say scum rolestopper to kill me day 1. Claiming a vague cop to not make actual Investigatives CC day 1 was my best option? Hence why I also got mod when Enchant fake CCd there too.

[Elsa Jay]

Neopolitian actually specifically only checks if your a vanilla townie, not just vanilla in general. A VC would get a positive on a regular goon for example. I think I read on the wiki a plain SK also comes up as vanilla?

[Elsa Jay]

"some type of Modified Cop" was slang for one of the many roles that have cop in its name or act like it such as gunsmith.

I would use "One of Tracker or it's Variants" to fake claim within the Tracker family tree instead. There's like 8 of those now with Visionary and such included.

It's to be vague.

[Elsa Jay]

You still seem to always forget that Endgame exists and gives Mafia the win in the case of ties usually, right?

[Elsa Jay]

Kawaii also claims to be the misc action that visited me too, Gera. Dunno if you wanted to add that to your notes too. Ausuka gives me results but she doesn't count herself as one of those like Motion Detector.

Edit: so mamy words. Bleh.

[Elsa Jay]

This game is already wonky enough. Mass claiming day 2 seems good enough. Frankly if the other PR is anything like Ausuka and Kawaii's role we got nothing useful happening via night phase.

[Elsa Jay]

Fake vig. You would've shot me otherwise.

Also I already got vigged last month. It's not gonna happen to me again. I hope.

[Elsa Jay]

Ausuka plz carry me while Kawaii carries you I'm tired of mafia

[Elsa Jay]

VOTE: Kokichi

[Elsa Jay]

But Kawaii already has you down as claiming VT. That means you lied about your role.

How can we trust such a claim from you Enchant? We shouldn't believe claims willy nilly like that.

Also weird you would claim it now when you literally have zero votes?

[Elsa Jay]

I mean if you keep calling me fake I'll call out you blatantly hard claiming VT earlier. Don't fake claim to save scum Enchant. That's no good.

[Elsa Jay]

You are not Doc unless your scum doc for said vig claim. What are you doing rn.

[Elsa Jay]

I mean your right I'm just a VT, but frankly I lost interest in this game with the week of delay and coasted till now. I'll affirm one last time the visionary thing with Ausuka and call it a game and try harder next time.

Gimli still town. Ausuka still town. Comus went off the deep end. Kokichi still probably isn't actually vig. Enchant was bad all day. Kawaii still also probably still good. Gera and Sky needed to do more. Klick probably scum watching town screw each other over gleefully. Menal more likely to be town then Klick so there's that.

One game I get shot by a vig as a PR, so I double down and claim early this game, where I get launched for crappy day play. It's frustrating to know the few town games I get, I still don't know how to be good in this game.

[Elsa Jay]

Don't town read me for giving up I don't deserve it. Launch Kokichi tomorrow when there obviously isn't a vig shot again. Make sure Sky actually tries and doesn't coast like today.

Edit: Klick seemed ready to bus Kokichi but turned on me the second I was viable again. Enchant's play might actually just have been not as good as I remember their last town game being, I just didn't like being told to shut up constantly. Sky slot consistently coasted on voting me for two separate days because they knew I was a village idiot type of player. Blatantly informed Mafia who saw easy town points. They'll coast tomorrow on a Kokichi vote if not vig, Enchant if he is. That slot is bad.

Kokichi/Klick/Sky is my bet.

[Elsa Jay]

Yeah that's definitely more town Enchant then otherwise. But while I did do it to live I also was ready to get shot by scum instead. You just rode me up a wall this entire time and didn't let me get back into the game slowly.

Your claim was still crappy btw.

[Elsa Jay]

Don't know. Thought it was five with you. Ausuka Comus Gimli Enchant and you? Thought Kokichi moved vote elsewhere awhile ago. If not I'm dead. But me dying here is still probably for the best anyway since I don't think I could've worked my self up to care to try and solve day 3 and Kokichi and Enchant definitely didn't let me get shot while fake claiming Cop variant or Jailkeeper.

Edit: yeah guess I'm dead. Hope this game isn't a blatantly scum victory. I'm rooting for you Gims. Plus Kawaii.

[Elsa Jay]

But random recap I guess if anyone ever looks back on this. Nobody does though.

The actual town:
Ausuka, Kawaii, Gimli

Comus

Scummy:
Kokichi more likely scum over Enchant
Sky more likely scum over Gera
Klick more likely scum over Menal

Yeah that sounds right to me.