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VOTE: Kokichi

I have decided I will not be using contractions this game

I might sound weird

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Also known as Rogue. I’m the pretty one not to be confused with Gambit who’s the handsome devil.

I like this a lot

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On another note, birds and snakes? This temporal anomaly is a veritable menagerie.

And doggos!

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team animals

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VOTE: Rogue

Who let the dogs out?

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Clearly I need people I can banter with too. *scans player list* Black! Kawaii! Wavelength! I demand that you engage in banter with me using our incredible history of playing in one game with me so we can confuse the others!

I do not remember you being this demanding in our game and the Aureal I know and love would give the milk his birthday present. Did you roll wolf this game?

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The milk is already profusely crying the least we can do is give him his hebi wagon

I cannot help of course because team animals but you understand

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actually awful posts

Elaborate

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actually awful posts

Elaborate

Elaborations are scum sided. I just don't like your posts.

My posts? I am not the one you voted for

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Hebi already in too deep. Maybe you should have kicked off your reunion tour with a Newbie

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Does she actually have a scumread on you or was she fishing for reactions in RVS? It's hard for me to tell

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Why no contractions?

Just a flavor thing I am trying out. I already messed up once XD

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Who had the worst opening and why?

You for asking this and not giving your own answer

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@hebi can you explain what LLD's early wolf game is like in comparison?

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She's buddying GreyIce but they're also married

Ok that is cute af

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I dig.
I like hebi last post
It pings town

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I do not agree. Hebi seems a little stiff and overly concerned about LLD's scumread

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I'm emotionally hurt about it. I'm her partner too.

If she does it every few games...does it always bother you?

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As silly as it is, yes.

I do not think it is that silly but I feel like this could easily be disputed by LLD so I am pretty sure you are telling the truth here

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H-How could you call me out like this. A-After all we've been through.

It feels a little scummy to ask everyone what they think about the entrances but not give any thoughts on them yourself

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VOTE: Kokichi

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So if Hebi is scum, LLD is town.

I am not ready to get on board with this but then again you clearly know them both better than me XD

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Oh and a friendly note to the players and mod:

I am v/la on weekends. I mostly post on weekdays

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Why would I not want to help eliminate hebi if I was a wolf- is she a wolf?

LLD and Grey seem to think so

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BTW Black, why did you refer to GreyICE as "milk", is this some reference I'm not getting?

I think xyzzy is milk. Whoever has the crying milk pfp which might not be visible on mobile I just realized

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Yeah it is xyzzy...the person you were depriving of a hebi wagon

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Also known as Rogue. I’m the pretty one not to be confused with Gambit who’s the handsome devil.

I like this a lot

it's this post, to be clear.

Also, wow it's 2 posts not 5, lmfao. That's actually incredible I was so high last night.

Anyway, the read is still the case. This is a town post.

How is "I like this a lot" a town post?

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No read of your own? Are they in charge of this game?

I gave a hebi read in 132

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Okay, so why bring LLD and Grey up when I asked without referring to your own read?

Because my read is very weak and the two of them have a personal relationship with hebi so idk, it just feels like their reads are probably more solidified than mine

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I usually skip RVS stuff since I don't like it, so i get other's opinions from them

Why do you not like RVS stuff?

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Cringe posts pretending to be funny

Do you think RVS can be used to find scum?

Also kawaii is in this game? How did I miss that

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Sure. I am always down to pressure kawaii

VOTE: Kawaii

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Spoiler: These are all of the posts that Black made that I feel like are a wolf engaging with the thread

Clearly I need people I can banter with too. *scans player list* Black! Kawaii! Wavelength! I demand that you engage in banter with me using our incredible history of playing in one game with me so we can confuse the others!

I do not remember you being this demanding in our game and the Aureal I know and love would give the milk his birthday present. Did you roll wolf this game?

The milk is already profusely crying the least we can do is give him his hebi wagon

I cannot help of course because team animals but you understand

Hebi already in too deep. Maybe you should have kicked off your reunion tour with a Newbie

Does she actually have a scumread on you or was she fishing for reactions in RVS? It's hard for me to tell

Who had the worst opening and why?

You for asking this and not giving your own answer

I dig.
I like hebi last post
It pings town

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I do not agree. Hebi seems a little stiff and overly concerned about LLD's scumread

I'm emotionally hurt about it. I'm her partner too.

If she does it every few games...does it always bother you?

H-How could you call me out like this. A-After all we've been through.

It feels a little scummy to ask everyone what they think about the entrances but not give any thoughts on them yourself

VOTE: Kokichi

Also known as Rogue. I’m the pretty one not to be confused with Gambit who’s the handsome devil.

I like this a lot

it's this post, to be clear.

Also, wow it's 2 posts not 5, lmfao. That's actually incredible I was so high last night.

Anyway, the read is still the case. This is a town post.

How is "I like this a lot" a town post?

Okay, so why bring LLD and Grey up when I asked without referring to your own read?

Because my read is very weak and the two of them have a personal relationship with hebi so idk, it just feels like their reads are probably more solidified than mine

I usually skip RVS stuff since I don't like it, so i get other's opinions from them

Why do you not like RVS stuff?

Cringe posts pretending to be funny

Do you think RVS can be used to find scum?

Also kawaii is in this game? How did I miss that

Sure. I am always down to pressure kawaii

VOTE: Kawaii

That is like...half my posts XD

@LLD I know you said you do not really elaborate on TRs but I was wondering what you found townie about my "I like this a lot" post? Is it just a vibe or what because I think I can make that post as wolf or town tbh

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I agree with the scumreads on black. Her posts have been pinging me too

Why?

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Tone feels off. When I compared your call out of kokichi to porkens yours doesn’t feel organic.

Ok. Why does my call out feel inorganic compared to Porkens?

Page 6 I was mostly trying to figure out what was going on in hebi's mind so idk what there is not to like there

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Ok that is fair

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I think I am wary of Kokichi due to a game we just played together but I can see how that can be interpreted as me boxing him in

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But I don't think I will be voting for Cakez day 1 this game.

Why not? It seems weird to ignore your strongest scum ping because you do not want to vote for the other half of the hydra

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I like theory testing but I don't like voting someone out on a meta theory alone, why do you people say Hebi is scum?

"meta this, meta that, have you ever meta girl before?"

still my favorite post ever btw

hi kawaii, are you a wolf?

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They had previously stated that they had their own independent scum read on Hebi in 132, so it seems unnatural for someone who scum reads Aureal themselves to answer this way.

My answer to Aureal would have been "I do not know". I got one ping off of hebi and that is not enough for me to think she is a wolf yet. Whereas LLD and Grey are in a relationship with hebi irl so I feel like their opinion of her carries more weight

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VOTE: Frogs

Wavelength may be afraid to vote for cakez but I am not. I like the meta case

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I agree with hebi's 307 - this could come from wolf!Porkens but I am feeling it is more town motivated

Kawaii's 305 feels more informed than anything Porkens has said imo. I am not sure how Porkens and I are definitely town here and the extra Koki townread seems random. 310 feels informed too

cakez 299 and 311 feels sideliney, saying there is no town thought process behind my posts but not pointing out any examples except a pressure vote on kawaii?

Porkens goes in listing all of these NAI comments on posts acting like they are good reasons to think Black is town when like...none of them are.

Porkens has provided more reasons for town!Black than your slot has provided for wolf!Black. Ali posted a bunch of quotes and said they feel like wolf but no reasoning, and now you are doing similarly here

I do believe Black feels semi lost though in a way she didn't feel b4

I have a feeling it is the lack of contractions. Maybe I sound robotic to you XD

I feel most confident of scum in one of black/porkens still, kokichi is pretty weak iso but he's been gone awhile.

Your initial vote on me was pressure but now I am your most confident scumread, along with the person that townreads me? That is quite the progression. I think you should elaborate on your scumreads of Porkens and I

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Some personality traits I cannot suppress

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Porkens is my most confident scumread. Your flip would be more interesting. You flipping town always results in me voting porken tomorrow, you flipping scum would likely make porkens town cause why buddy so close to a scum partner.

You did not elaborate on your scumreads at all

Also I think this approach is scummy. You say my flip is more interesting but it just looks like you are taking the easy way out on my mobile wagon instead of starting your own with Porkens

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Does she actually have a scumread on you or was she fishing for reactions in RVS? It's hard for me to tell

I feel like she actually does since she was pushing me after my initial reaction.

HNNNNNNNNG maf silver

@hebi iirc I saw somewhere you mentioned a townread on LLD. Why?

Cause I've played a zillion social deception games with her and the way she's playing is just how she plays town.

It seems you only refuse to elaborate on reads when it conveniences you

I will not complain about your play but I do think this is scummy

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Then vote me if you think it's scummy.

VOTE: hebi

e-2?

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I can't speak for Wavelength, but bringing up other people made me a little concerned about Black because in the game we played together, early on she kept referring to me. "Aureal, do you think this is X? Aureal what do you think about Y?" Nobody ever wants my opinion that much, so I started to wonder if she was scum trying to hide behind me. Turns out, she was!

I see where you are coming from but did you really get this vibe from my LLD/Grey comment? You asked me if hebi is a wolf and since I'm not sure I referred to the experts' opinions. In the newbie game I tried to pocket you but I do not see that here with this comment

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I do not understand the Wavelength case on hebi. I have read it twice and I am still not getting it for some reason

Popping in to say that I don't think leaving a wagon (that you joined as rvs) because it hit e-2 on page 4 is scummy.

I agree

I have not been able to read Aureal very well this game though. She seems to be playing more loose? than when we last played... I think is the best way to describe it. She seems less tense but I am not sure if this is AI or not

I am not a big fan of her 359 where she implies she does not know for sure how the scum PT works. Aureal, how many games have you played scum here and do you have a scum game you could link me?

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i agree with Hebi that my Porkens read could change/depend a lot on Black's alignment

-sc

What is your current read on Porkens?

Also I think you should scumcase me and explain why you are ok with Ali's vote. If you are confident enough in my alignment to try to sway others to my wagon and also discredit people that townread me, surely you are capable of explaining why I am wolf other than I am drifting?

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No need to be scared of me. Would this face lie?

*shudders*

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That was pocketing? Darnit, I've now announced to everyone here now not to pocket me.

I think? Either pocketing or buddying. I am not even really sure what the difference is tbh

But I haven't rolled scum since 2006, maybe I will be if that ever happens, who the heck knows? I don't think those games are going to be very helpful in figuring anything out about me, though they could be interesting in other ways as a testament to how much games have changed since then. We didn't have PTs then; and no I'm not 100% sure how the scum PT here works, I'm assuming they have daytalk because that's the norm but now that I look at the game rules to actually confirm, it says nothing about how PTs work. So I'm still assuming daytalk but that's just an assumption; becuse hey, maybe ffery wanted to use an encryptor role or something- this is a theme game with possibly weird mechanics.

An almost 20 year dry spell on rolling scum? What the heck...

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I think the Black votes are bad.

I think Porkens is suspect but I still think Kawaii is the most suspect

Do you have any thoughts on hebi?

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Idk why so many think hebi is scum, Ik you didn't ask me but that's what I think

I did not like how hebi reacted to LLD calling her scum early on. She felt defensive and uncomfortable. She also refuses to elaborate some reads (106, 347) while openly elaborating others (118, 125) and this makes me think she is throwing out scumreads with no backing. Then she conveniently jumped on my wagon, later saying it was a pressure vote, but keeping the vote there because something I did in between those couple of pages apparently made me one of her top two scumreads? But she will not elaborate the read...so yeah, she is just playing like opportunistic scum and not really hunting/solving at all

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Am I at e-1 yet?

no

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So if I am understanding this correctly... if hebi's faction wins, town does not lose? I do not know if hebi is being 100% truthful about the claim and I think it would be in her best interest to leave some stuff out. I think this is a good lim option but I do not think we rush it

@hebi is gaining your dead faction members abilities unique to your role or do the other people in your faction have that power too?

Also maybe you said this and I missed it but does your neighborization thingy recruit them to the faction and count toward the numerical parity?

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Not a fan of LLD's doc leading in 504 but other than this I TR this slot for the most part and I like their posts during the hebi reveal in particular

Frogs echoing the doc lead in 507 feels bad. The case on me feels weak and forced, like someone put red glasses on and read my iso

Agree with Aureal in 510 for pointing out the doc lead

Strong townread on xyzzy's 534. I like the tone here

@Rogue I also have a recent game with Aureal. I mentioned earlier she seems different but I cannot tell if it is AI

I like Grey's stance on hebi in 546. A hebi elim is not a town elim, and in the chance that hebi is lying about winning the game and leaving then we should probably think about reducing the Borg's numbers

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And yes its unique to me. Doesn't work for them if I die.

So you are the leader then?

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Sorry hebi...this is all pretty confusing to me so I may be getting stuff wrong here

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I do not necessarily disagree that you are the best doc option, it just pings me when people ask for protection so bluntly

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I mean I think Black is just a wolf

Yeah we know

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Wow I missed a lot. So hebi is claiming 3rd party. Sounds a bit sus

Yeah and it seems like a lot of people are taking the claim at face value. I have a feeling there is something hebi is omitting but she has been pretty open and willing to answer questions about it so idk

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Let's vote out the Snivy!

Grass types lol

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E-1 someone hammer

Should we really cut the day this short?

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I am down for a hebi elim, what I was asking was do you think we should wait so we can get more information D1?

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it's way too early to write a scumcase, ali and I have made our reasoning for scumreading you clear

At the time I wrote that neither of you were very transparent with your SR. Ali listed off half of my iso with no analysis and said it feels like wolf interacting with the thread and you said it felt like I was drifting lol. At least Ali elaborated some yesterday...you are still on the sidelines

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I am with Rogue. I do not think ending the day early is a good idea

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Is it ban worthy if hebi plays it through the lens of the fake claim though? Her outting her wolfmates is not against the rules in this context right?

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Yeah I am just not familiar enough with the rules here to know how this would work

I think we vote hebi unless a more obvious choice presents itself. And by obvious choice I mean like a wolf claim

I do not think hebi outs her teammates even if we threatened to lim her over it. She seems kinda checked out already

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Kawaii's 580 and 583 is a 180 from his initial stance in 562

I am starting to think the Borg characters have a secret win con we do not know about because Kawaii's progression here does not feel natural to me

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VOTE: hebi

My final message: Change the World

Why do I feel like this hammer was to stop my kawaii discussion?

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Let's go!!! ggwp!

Ty ffery for modding!

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Tasha Yar stood by as the defendant was brought in for trial, on high alert for any suspicious activities. Her hand curled in frustration as she thought about the many crimes this man had allegedly been responsible for. Her phaser was near at hand, and thinking back to the scene which had unfolded before her several nights ago, it made her want to wrap her hand around it and dispense with the formalities immediately. She'd been so close by, lurking in the hallway near Data's quarters, wondering if she dared seek to enter- a sentiment cut short by the angry yells within. The sight of the angry form of Khan collapsing onto the broken shapes that once was her android friend, blaming Data with his dying breath for the vengeful old man's murder- she would never forget it. Nor forgive herself for not being able to stop it.

Drawing a sharp breath, she roused herself from the mental torment of reliving that moment, focusing upon the trial before her. It was soon evident that finally they had caught the last of the conspirators, a welcome relief after days of accusations, including many against her, a not unsurprising turn of events given how she'd failed in her job of keeping everyone secure. That was of secondary importance to her own self-recrimination, which would stay with her forever. Or at least for as long as it took to get out of this strange anomaly- who knew whether any of this even would exist outside of it? Perhaps everyone would be alive again, as if none of this ever existed.

With a sudden surge of hope at that thought, Tasha welcomed the flash of light that heralded Q's conclusion to the trial. Maybe the world would return to normal, and she would be able to find Data again sometime...

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