Why.In post 573, Black wrote: I do not necessarily disagree that you are the best doc option, it just pings me when people ask for protection so bluntly
Why does it ping you?
You can say it bothers and pings you all day, I need specifics.
Why.In post 573, Black wrote: I do not necessarily disagree that you are the best doc option, it just pings me when people ask for protection so bluntly
I'm considering not killing hebi for character reasons, though killing hebi is pro-townIn post 577, Wavelength wrote: People considering not killing hebi might be interesting, but I have not really looked at it all that closely
I would appreciate it if no other reasons than I want more qts to talk in.In post 578, KawaiiKame wrote:I'm considering not killing hebi for character reasons, though killing hebi is pro-townIn post 577, Wavelength wrote: People considering not killing hebi might be interesting, but I have not really looked at it all that closely
I will leave you alive thenIn post 579, hebichan wrote:I would appreciate it if no other reasons than I want more qts to talk in.In post 578, KawaiiKame wrote:I'm considering not killing hebi for character reasons, though killing hebi is pro-townIn post 577, Wavelength wrote: People considering not killing hebi might be interesting, but I have not really looked at it all that closely
eliminating hebichan here as policy doesn't give us useful info for day 2. if we later have reason to believe hebichan is lying scum, we can circle back around to that. if we eliminate town on day 1, that's obviously bad, but it gives us a wealth of information that eliminating a claimed survivor does not. the drawback of going into day 2 with less to work with is far greater than the "at least we didn't lose a town player" moral victory, especially because it doesn't stop us from getting closer to a scum win.In post 546, GreyICE wrote: So a non-town claim.
Vote: Hebi
I will not go into a long explanation of why this is always, always, always, always the correct move. A brief summary:
- The moderator has not confirmed the existence of a non-hostile, non-town faction. There's no evidence it exists. There's a known non-town faction - it's Mafia. Occam's Razor.
- Fferyllt likes fairly vanilla roles. For instance their design document for Tarot Mafia, despite having an incredibly complicated picking procedure, has mostly "modified vanilla" roles: viewtopic.php?p=12857475#p12857475
- It's a mini normal, 13 players doesn't give much room for a non-town, non-hostile faction.
-It's day 1, we're guaranteed not to eliminate town by doing this
The last one should be the only one that matters.
Wanna claim?In post 581, xyzzy wrote:eliminating hebichan here as policy doesn't give us useful info for day 2. if we later have reason to believe hebichan is lying scum, we can circle back around to that. if we eliminate town on day 1, that's obviously bad, but it gives us a wealth of information that eliminating a claimed survivor does not. the drawback of going into day 2 with less to work with is far greater than the "at least we didn't lose a town player" moral victory, especially because it doesn't stop us from getting closer to a scum win.In post 546, GreyICE wrote: So a non-town claim.
Vote: Hebi
I will not go into a long explanation of why this is always, always, always, always the correct move. A brief summary:
- The moderator has not confirmed the existence of a non-hostile, non-town faction. There's no evidence it exists. There's a known non-town faction - it's Mafia. Occam's Razor.
- Fferyllt likes fairly vanilla roles. For instance their design document for Tarot Mafia, despite having an incredibly complicated picking procedure, has mostly "modified vanilla" roles: viewtopic.php?p=12857475#p12857475
- It's a mini normal, 13 players doesn't give much room for a non-town, non-hostile faction.
-It's day 1, we're guaranteed not to eliminate town by doing this
The last one should be the only one that matters.
Holy Hell you right, voting someone else does give the most info in the flip to solve the game, as said b4 voting hebi is nai so we get 0 info in eliminating hebiIn post 581, xyzzy wrote:eliminating hebichan here as policy doesn't give us useful info for day 2. if we later have reason to believe hebichan is lying scum, we can circle back around to that. if we eliminate town on day 1, that's obviously bad, but it gives us a wealth of information that eliminating a claimed survivor does not. the drawback of going into day 2 with less to work with is far greater than the "at least we didn't lose a town player" moral victory, especially because it doesn't stop us from getting closer to a scum win.In post 546, GreyICE wrote: So a non-town claim.
Vote: Hebi
I will not go into a long explanation of why this is always, always, always, always the correct move. A brief summary:
- The moderator has not confirmed the existence of a non-hostile, non-town faction. There's no evidence it exists. There's a known non-town faction - it's Mafia. Occam's Razor.
- Fferyllt likes fairly vanilla roles. For instance their design document for Tarot Mafia, despite having an incredibly complicated picking procedure, has mostly "modified vanilla" roles: viewtopic.php?p=12857475#p12857475
- It's a mini normal, 13 players doesn't give much room for a non-town, non-hostile faction.
-It's day 1, we're guaranteed not to eliminate town by doing this
The last one should be the only one that matters.
tbh I don't make anything of that post. I can definitely imagine someone just assuming the scum in this game are borg-flavored without any basis for that assumption other than it being an obvious idea.In post 551, Aureal wrote:Uhhhhhhh. That post. I came back here to muse about what Grey's "I'm probably a miller" claim meant in context of there being a 3P which LLD suspects he belongs to. And now you remind us of this post where he comments about the borg. My head is spinning.In post 534, xyzzy wrote: 357 fwiw, in response to GreyICE a post or two later, if someone asked me to coordinate RVS like that as scum, I'd probably be like "sure, whatever, let's do it," but I would never originate a plan like that on my own
it's been three years since the last time I played, so I'm not sure I have a normal playstyle, but it's at least where I'm at right now.So you just grab a random wagon, try to drive it up really high really fast, and hope nothing bad happens? Is this your normal playstyle?358 for the record, I wasn't dodging the question so much as being dismissive of it. that being said, to me the function of RVS is to create tension that can be shaped into reads. voting in a way that creates tension pushes the game in the direction of having things actually happen. jumping on the hebichan wagon turns that wagon into a Thing The Game Is About, which in turn lets people generate reads.
fair enough!359 don't love this! reads very youth pastor trying to be cool with the teens in a scummy way
Hey now! Scumread me if you want, but I draw the line at calling me a "youth pastor"!
my point was that you had the tone of someone who381 I don't care for the "that was pocketing?" comment. on the one hand I'd be willing to believe that Aureal genuinely isn't sure whether daytalk is a default thing or how PTs work. on the other hand I still get such bad vibes from 359, and this doesn't really mitigate those.
Is it on the site somewhere that it's a default thing??? I'm not even sure where to look for that! It seems extremely common but my experience could be misdirecting me. Many games explicitly state that mafia can communicate at all times- it's required to be stated for Normal games according to the Encryptor wiki page, and I've only played Normals and Opens.
Why are we even arguing about this??
the latter.Are you saying that because you think she's right or wrong or just the way she says it?517 changed my mind from 406. this is town LLD
no???In post 582, Lady Lambdadelta wrote: Wanna claim?
In post 582, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:Wanna claim?In post 581, xyzzy wrote:
eliminating hebichan here as policy doesn't give us useful info for day 2. if we later have reason to believe hebichan is lying scum, we can circle back around to that. if we eliminate town on day 1, that's obviously bad, but it gives us a wealth of information that eliminating a claimed survivor does not. the drawback of going into day 2 with less to work with is far greater than the "at least we didn't lose a town player" moral victory, especially because it doesn't stop us from getting closer to a scum win.
That would mean they didn't pay much attention at all to the game design, which made it pretty clear that role flavor was assigned then alignment randomized. So we could have a scum team of the most heroic good guys ever.In post 584, xyzzy wrote: tbh I don't make anything of that post. I can definitely imagine someone just assuming the scum in this game are borg-flavored without any basis for that assumption other than it being an obvious idea.
the latter.Are you saying that because you think she's right or wrong or just the way she says it?
I want to just point at this and say "holy FUCK is xyzzy obvious scum" but to explain why this is pure horseshit, here we go:In post 581, xyzzy wrote:
eliminating hebichan here as policy doesn't give us useful info for day 2. if we later have reason to believe hebichan is lying scum, we can circle back around to that. if we eliminate town on day 1, that's obviously bad, but it gives us a wealth of information that eliminating a claimed survivor does not. the drawback of going into day 2 with less to work with is far greater than the "at least we didn't lose a town player" moral victory, especially because it doesn't stop us from getting closer to a scum win.
So when do we eliminate her? Day 2? Day 3? Day 4?In post 583, KawaiiKame wrote:Holy Hell you right, voting someone else does give the most info in the flip to solve the game, as said b4 voting hebi is nai so we get 0 info in eliminating hebi
Oh day 2 we are wagonning the FUCK out of xyzzy.In post 585, Aureal wrote:
Is that a threat to wagon xyzzy or another attempt to pin 3P factional membership to someone?
Yeah and it seems like a lot of people are taking the claim at face value. I have a feeling there is something hebi is omitting but she has been pretty open and willing to answer questions about it so idkIn post 595, Kokichi Oma wrote: Wow I missed a lot. So hebi is claiming 3rd party. Sounds a bit sus
Grass types lolIn post 596, Kokichi Oma wrote: Let's vote out the Snivy!