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[Andante]

update: it didn't work

woooow a canine sacrifice.... they must know I love cats!! Can't sacrifice a cat lover!!!

[Andante]

I vote Kowahbunga for town leader.

[Andante]

fos cephrir

igmeoy cephrir

What is igmeoy?

i got my eye on you

^trait I want in my leader!

[Andante]

i got my eye on you

^ LEADER IS WATCHING. ALWAYS WATCHING.

[Andante]

fos cephrir

igmeoy cephrir

What is igmeoy?

i got my eye on you

^trait I want in my leader!

How is answering something that anyone can simply read on the wiki a desirable trait on a town leader?

and you have lied to me. igmeoy is not on the wiki.
VOTE: NJAC

[Andante]

UNVOTE: - even though you did still lie to me...

lmaoooo I just realized igmeoy is... i got my eye on you...

goodnight. I'll see myself out.

[Andante]

Making some vague allusions to the idea that Andate is scummy with no follow-up or serious pursuit. Just trying to sow generally mistrust on people in low-cost ways is scummy. This makes me think Andate is town

I agree, the other dog should've just full sent a scumread, like, I could scumcase myself better than dog's weak push, also I thought that "sarcasm font" comment was weird, like, they think I showed up just to tell jokes? I genuinely didn't catch on? I put the igmeoy letters in the wiki search, nothing came up, but, as a slot who hasn't started playing the game as of that point (sorry, real life was INSANE) that's really just a weird comment, like, might as well full send the "andante isn't doing shit" angle

also, agree with that last point I also think Andante town!

[Andante]

Waiting for Andante to address.

What am I addressing? I didn't specifically say I was going to address anything? You say this like I was all "I will give yall a 17p reads list right after my exams!!" which I did not in fact say.

also lol I', laughing cause the 123 thing was on dog being scum, and here's dog trying to pick on me solely for not being around. lmaooo ohh good luck with this "fight" dog cause I am back. Stress be gone. You want me here? oh I'm here, no longer that easy push cause I had no posts...

[Andante]

VOTE: curiouskarmadog

I don't have many reads, but this is just "I'm pushing a low poster cause I can" and it's "here's a push, but I can't push too much just cause there's nothing for the slot, but if I shade her enough, I can get votes there"

sorry, only enough room for 1 dog in this town.

[Andante]

actually yeah sure

lmaooo ohh good luck with this "fight" dog cause I am back. Stress be gone. You want me here? oh I'm here, no longer that easy push cause I had no posts...

VOTE: Andante

lol you sr me?

[Andante]

like, one of my first actual posts back, dog was picking me to SR solely cause I wasn't around to defend myself, yet I don't think any of yall realized that? so I show up, call it out, you vote me? feels like a really weak reason to sr me

[Andante]

yeah got busy irl, and ehh I don't see much I care to interact with, FL is all focused on wanting me to scumcase myself, it was half a joke, like, me doing nothing, I get yelled at for being scum cause of it half the time, like, idk, FL being VERY focused on that seems weird

[Andante]

what exactly am I supposed to back up? I see a freaking wagon on me right now, and what is the actual case?

[Andante]

like, I'm literally the 2nd most popular SR. WHAT HAVE I EVEN DONE THIS GAME TO BE A TOP SR FOR?

[Andante]

like, I haven't done... anything? great work yall! I think we lim the slot with nothing, we watch them flip town, then just shrug it off tomorrow. sounds like a real solid plan.

versus my sr on karma dog (which I saw someone say was so fake) where karma was very clearly going after me with the thought I was an easy lim, aren't scum only looking for the easy lims here? giant 17p game, "heyyy let's just pick off town, 1 by 1" like, THERE'S NOTHING GENUINELY SCUMMY ABOUT MY POSTS. I can see the "oh frozen scum" argument, but like, that's literally not even the argument against me

[Andante]

whatever. can we like actually go for scum? instead of "heyyy andante has no post, she so scummy!!"

[Andante]

All I know is you did this whole *cracks knuckles* alright get ready for a fight routine and then nothing

well obviously the intention wasn't to disappear

[Andante]

If you're not an easy lim, show it by finding some scum :3

I did, I gave you karma dog. if you expect 3 more from me as well right now? uhh I haven't been here, how would that be possible

[Andante]

(i would much prefer the outcome where im able to find you town, since i think you're quite enjoyable to play with ^^)

well I'm glad, I'm not currently enjoyable :/
you voted the wrong dog at the start of the game for your cats. right idea, wrong dog

[Andante]

versus my sr on karma dog (which I saw someone say was so fake) where karma was very clearly going after me with the thought I was an easy lim, aren't scum only looking for the easy lims here? giant 17p game,

Pushing an easy lim is definitely scum mindset, what place does Karmadog go against you despite you do nothing sai?

how is karma an easy lim? I'm saying I'm the easy lim here

[Andante]

The only lead I see is Andante scumcase on Karmadog

I literally haven't posted a scum case, I said like 2 sentences. I'm the easy lim and karma going for me at a time I had 0 posts, just joke posts was sus af.

Is this like a "karma is town so we can pin this on andante" kinda thing? cause I'm not actually a fan of this right now. rather than voicing your own read on me, it's like taking others words/saying untrue stuff. does not feel like you're actually trying to read me at all

VOTE: Kawaii

[Andante]

versus my sr on karma dog (which I saw someone say was so fake) where karma was very clearly going after me with the thought I was an easy lim, aren't scum only looking for the easy lims here? giant 17p game,

Pushing an easy lim is definitely scum mindset, what place does Karmadog go against you despite you do nothing sai?

how is karma an easy lim? I'm saying I'm the easy lim here

I'm saying the same, Karma pushing you being an easy lim is scum mindset

so you're saying karma has a scum mindset, but you're not voting karma? again, this is that "I want others to be responsible for this if it flips town"

[Andante]

Flavor Leaf (1): KawaiiKame

like, you are voting FL, a wagon that's very clearly not happening right now, and I've seen way more andante/karma talk than FL talk from you

[Andante]

whatever, I'm sticking to karma, not letting my current mood change my gut read/feeling here

VOTE: karmadog

I just find this very odd, and like the level of oddness makes me have doubts

[Andante]

not letting my current mood change my gut read/feeling here

Hmm you almost had me for a moment there

I also went "there's no votes there, and at this point I assume no one is flipping to someone with no votes"

like, I will happily vote there

VOTE: Kawaii

[Andante]

-1: Andante, KawaiiKame

how on earth do you have me and my sr as the exact same?

[Andante]

like, I'm not placing a vote on FL, ignoring that, and going "yeah karma dog scummy!!!" while not voting karma dog...
yet you have us the same??

Kawaii+GuyInFreezer are probably 2 scum then,

and if I'm right on that I feel like Kawaii has TMId karma dog town

[Andante]

not letting my current mood change my gut read/feeling here

Hmm you almost had me for a moment there

I also went "there's no votes there, and at this point I assume no one is flipping to someone with no votes"

like, I will happily vote there

VOTE: Kawaii

I mean you almost had me townreading you :p

I mean, I am town so that would be the correct read

[Andante]

-1: Andante, KawaiiKame

how on earth do you have me and my sr as the exact same?

Bussing is a thing so

ok cool so I'm bussing Kawaii, what outside that has you thinking Kawaii scum?

[Andante]

VOTE: Guy In Freezer

I legit like this vote more right now, this "lol you're bussing" thing is nonsense

[Andante]

like, I'm not placing a vote on FL, ignoring that, and going "yeah karma dog scummy!!!" while not voting karma dog...
yet you have us the same??

I was saying if you right about Karma easy eliminating you Karma has a scum mindset, how is Karma voting you an easy elimination?

someone not posting? I hadn't done anything, how was I not an easy lim when karma started voting me?
I don't get what you are asking

[Andante]

Try reading

No thanks

[Andante]

dw, you're all good, I laughed XD

[Andante]

VOTE: karma dog

[Andante]

Spoiler: curious wagon

Spoiler:

camae ayewa (moor mother)

vote count 1.5 !

curiouskarmadog (4):

Hu Tao, Bub Bidderskins, KittyTacky, Andante

Andante (4):

curiouskarmadog, GuyInFreezer, Flavor Leaf, Cephrir

Greeting (3):

NJAC, ballpointpen, Kowahbunga

Glitch (1):

Greeting

Hu Tao (1):

Save The Dragons

Flavor Leaf (1):

KawaiiKame

Cephrir (1):

Skygazer

not voting (2):

MalcolmTucker, Glitch

with 17 alive, it takes 9 to put someone in the machine. day 1 ends in (expired on 2023-04-02 13:48:07)

moderateur notes

• no prods administered! in fact everyone has posted in the last uh 25 hours

like, I'm not placing a vote on FL, ignoring that, and going "yeah karma dog scummy!!!" while not voting karma dog...
yet you have us the same??

I was saying if you right about Karma easy eliminating you Karma has a scum mindset, how is Karma voting you an easy elimination?

someone not posting? I hadn't done anything, how was I not an easy lim when karma started voting me?
I don't get what you are asking

In IS0 the push against you makes 0 sense, like you said nothing that would indicate you as scum, confused when reading, like what?
UNVOTE:
VOTE: curiouskarmadog

So now we're actually getting a little action and traction. Hu Tao, Bub, Kitty, Andante, and Kawaii are on the curious wagon. I don't think a PR claim on D1 means that scum is guaranteed to be on the wagon. But I do think it gives sufficient reason for a bit of pressure there. Bub is in my town bucket which leaves me interested in ISO'ing Hu Tao, Kitty, Andante, and Kawaii. I'm gonna do that now.

Can we please just eliminate this person

Why? I'm kinda liking them!!!

[Andante]

Can y'all elaborate on why wagon analysis is bad without a flip? Maybe I'm playing poorly but at least help me understand why.

cause it all relies on X being town/scum and if 1 person's alignment is the basis for all your reads, it's kinda just a waste of time tbh (I have learned from experience lol)

[Andante]

Andante, Kawaii, ballpoint, and Bub are in my townie basket.

Hey look friends!! I made it to the townie basket!!! Yall proud of me? XD
I am proud of me too!!!

[Andante]

10/10 page top

[Andante]

my thoughts on the karma dog claim, they can't full claim right now without that being scummy af, and the way they've been playing, doesn't seem to me like they have actually been trying to push a sr, like with the knowledge they're gone rest of d1, the way they're playing doesn't seem to line up with what I think town would do, cause it seems more that karma dog doesn't care who the lim even is, and the "here's a soft claim" is cause the wagon is basically non existent, can't commit to a hard claim, and this?? like, just go "X is my top sr, lim X" and that's like going "hey look! shiny thing!!!" this is day 1 of a 17p game. "Hey guys I'm busy, won't be here again till d2" literally all you need to say, then we go "ok cool, can vote elsewhere" it's not like there's 1 scum alive.

idk, I don't like the "here's my claim" thing, that is far from what I would do there as town

[Andante]

fineee I'm moving on to
VOTE: Kawaii

[Andante]

(Although ngl I'm kinda procrastinating rn. I haven't read a single MalcomTucker post yet)

I think malcolm is approaching my slot fairly, seems towny how he talks about me/his read on me

[Andante]

Andante, Kawaii, ballpoint, and Bub are in my townie basket.

Hey look friends!! I made it to the townie basket!!! Yall proud of me? XD
I am proud of me too!!!

yay more jokes...more friends. no content.

MORE FRIENDS!!!

[Andante]

(Although ngl I'm kinda procrastinating rn. I haven't read a single MalcomTucker post yet)

I think malcolm is approaching my slot fairly, seems towny how he talks about me/his read on me

Uggggggghhhhhhh you're making me read MalcomTucker's posts.
His posts looked hella long which is why I haven't read his yet.

well I was giving you my thoughts cause you said you hadn't read malcolm and I said I saw a lot of his posts since they were about me. I didn't see anything that screams SR right now

[Andante]

beetlejuice beetlejuice be…

[Andante]

No Andante

Yes Andante

[Andante]

VOTE: Hu Tao
found mafia. thank me later

[Andante]

Lots of talk about RVS and how useful/useless it is so far. Let’s railroad someone and see what happens from there. Maybe some actual content will start.

VOTE: Hu Tao

you don't think there's anything of note in the last 3 pages?

Actual content sure. Noteworthy and AI, on page 3 not really.

I will say I’m so glad there’s not 406 pages to read between signing on. My last large I could barely keep up.

Going in to work but I’ll be back with a few thoughts after my work day. VOTE: Unvote

Not sure I buy this. But I'll see what you say after your thoughts

never returned to this thought? and next response to Glitch feels like the 2 are partners

[Andante]

/fascinating/
Soft town pr claim on D1 is either a ballsy scum move or a legitimate claim. I'll let curious live today.

Um? Scum usually claim pr no?

like, this is the next time Hu Tao addresses Glitch

[Andante]

so why go "Not sure I buy this. But I'll see what you say after your thoughts" if you have no intent of ever returning to that thought? like, idk, that plus like everything else in this ISO is literally just scum trying to look towny

[Andante]

VOTE: Hu Tao
found mafia. thank me later

Why do you think it's Hu Tao?

Why don't you think it's Hu Tao?

[Andante]

Kawaii, why are you still voting a PR claim?

[Andante]

I'm interested in hearing about that

[Andante]

yall should vote Hu Tao with me

[Andante]

Ceph, what are your thoughts on Hu Tao

[Andante]

Bub Bidderskins, what are your thoughts on Hu Tao

[Andante]

GuyInFreezer, what are your thoughts on Hu Tao

[Andante]

DRAGONS!!! What are your thoughts on Hu Tao

[Andante]

Wooo! I have done it friends! I found our lim! No one TRs Hu Tao,
I think they are coasting scum, their actions this game do not seem to align with someone who is town, and looking at this activity overview, Hu Tao has the 9th most posts, we seriously need to work on this a bit people... like this game has been going for 7 days...

I demand better on d2!

For now, I think Hu Tao is a solid lim, and if anyone wants someone else, speak now.
(I'm leaving the karma dog pr stuff alone, don't want anyone to continue guessing what the pr is, just wait for karma dog to return d2)

[Andante]

i dont know if it applies to stargazer necessarily since they also have been away in the interim but like, players who have been in this meta going after lurkers isn't weird imo

stargazer feels different, hu tao feels like genuine scum here, looking at the ISOs, they feel worlds apart

[Andante]

Andante had the fake chest puff

pshhh wanna go? I am quite skilled at boxing!

Flavor Leaf, what are your thoughts on Hu Tao

[Andante]

There was a weird interaction Andante had that looks scum/scum possible too

Who was I scum scum with?
you really need to stop playing this game with the assumption I'm scum like, this and your chainsaw thing, 2 posts where you're just like "ANDANTE IS SCUM SO MY READS ARE BASED OFF THAT" like what even?

[Andante]

VOTE: Hu Tao
VOTE: Hu Tao
VOTE: Hu Tao

[Andante]

Kawaii, why are you still voting a PR claim?

Something I always find weird is treating PR claims as sacred. Especially soft ones, when the role has been said to be useless. Scum's gonna claim PR most of the time.

sure, but I was just curious on Kawaii's thoughts, personally? I hate the claim, said why too, but mehh there's a part of me that's like, that is too weak of a claim to be scum, but also, someone who can't be here till d2? ehhh not sure I like the idea of "ok must lim someone who can't be here!" like, there's 3 other scum sooo it's fine

[Andante]

and I don't think I'm super opposed to NJAC lim, all I can recall, without looking up the ISO, NJAC was here A LOT early game, and is now nonexistent, which like, only being here when the game is just rvs? mehh gotta be here now!!!

[Andante]

The fact I'm almost a top poster... and I haven't really been here since the other day... lmaoooo

[Andante]

kitty why are you more active here than in the game we just finished together where you were town?

ehhh this shows a little bit of actual thought, hu tao's iso is BAD, like, some of yall are saying these 2 are the same, sure skygazer has no posts, but like this one is at least "hey, I recall town!kitty did this the other game, not seeing it here??"

and like, that's kinda how I deal with these large games, focus a lot on people I know initially, then branch out.

idk hu tao, but like one of their pop ins felt wolfy to me, so that caused me to go to the iso, and here we are. dead set on hu tao!scum

[Andante]

yall are so much fun to talk to, let me say... like, if you wanna talk about the weather I'd be down.. like, anyone wanna talk to meeeee???

[Andante]

I seriously only see the same 5 voices talking.. this game is not going to work if it's 5 of us versus 12 lurkers.. like sorry, but just.. if we think about that math for 1 second... I don't even care if you only have 1 read on 1 person right now, like, who is your BEST GUESS for scum? like, I don't care if that answer is me. I would LOVE to start hearing voices. like, if you ignore the wagons, could have all of us sheep you, who would you full send this on?
I WANNA HEAR YALL OUT!!!!

plz

[Andante]

yall are so much fun to talk to, let me say... like, if you wanna talk about the weather I'd be down.. like, anyone wanna talk to meeeee???

i wanted to ask: what is the justification for absolutely railing hu tao? is it still that glitch interaction you were preaching about earlier
hu tao has just been *existing* this whole game and i don't really have an opinion on them. this wagon would have been great earlier in the day to pressure them into a response but i see skygazer, greeting, and kawaii as objectively more scummier than hu tao and that's where im most confident voting in
it doesn't help that a LOT of this playerlist are lurkers/inconsistent in their content, and as you said, i feel like i've been seeing the same rotating carousel of faces for a LONG time already

I disagree, I don't see skygazer or kawaii as more scummy, have no read on greeting.
Yeah see, for me it was a recent pop in where I was like "this post is solely to avoid being prodded..." and if you look at the ISO, that is the ENTIRE iso. there's not a single actual thought in it/attempt at a tr/sr.

Like sky for example, had the "hey kitty was town in this other game.. feels different here" - to me that is an attempt to sort kitty.

Hu Tao has nothing like that, and I want to say that ISO is just trying to look towny, rather that attempting to scum hunt, like we can go through post by post if you want, it's a short ISO

[Andante]

ughhh I typed a post and lost internet... ughhhhhhh

[Andante]

why the fuck are we still talking about the pr claim
JUST LET IT RESOLVE
like i don't understand why we are assigning the pr claim as any alignment really, because its practically doable for town or scum and regardless we want to avoid giving scum more information if possible

Chill out. I was clearly catching up

like, this was their 2nd to last post. so uhhh what did you learn from catching up? cause before this it's just random comments on posts.
I seriously feel like this is scum, and I'm pretty certain I'll be dead locked onto this thought.

cause sure "town falls behind too!!" there is NOTHING in this ISO that I feel like is lost town, this is 100% scum who didn't care too much since suspicion wasn't there, flying under the radar, will not commit to a read that isn't already said in thread, because they want to fly under the radar.

[Andante]

yall are so much fun to talk to, let me say... like, if you wanna talk about the weather I'd be down.. like, anyone wanna talk to meeeee???

i wanted to ask: what is the justification for absolutely railing hu tao? is it still that glitch interaction you were preaching about earlier
hu tao has just been *existing* this whole game and i don't really have an opinion on them. this wagon would have been great earlier in the day to pressure them into a response but i see skygazer, greeting, and kawaii as objectively more scummier than hu tao and that's where im most confident voting in
it doesn't help that a LOT of this playerlist are lurkers/inconsistent in their content, and as you said, i feel like i've been seeing the same rotating carousel of faces for a LONG time already

I disagree, I don't see skygazer or kawaii as more scummy, have no read on greeting.
Yeah see, for me it was a recent pop in where I was like "this post is solely to avoid being prodded..." and if you look at the ISO, that is the ENTIRE iso. there's not a single actual thought in it/attempt at a tr/sr.

Like sky for example, had the "hey kitty was town in this other game.. feels different here" - to me that is an attempt to sort kitty.

Hu Tao has nothing like that, and I want to say that ISO is just trying to look towny, rather that attempting to scum hunt, like we can go through post by post if you want, it's a short ISO

i can see that actually
my bias might have been blinding me a bit because they did provide some level of thoughts at the beginning of the game but their recent posts don't show any progression of their reads
i'll go check the other isos now that you've brought that to my attention

The ONLY "level of thought" I see, is literally early game, RVS, and I want to say it was already copying the general idea of what someone else said.

As scum, I know I find it significantly easier to start strong, appear towny, then disappear cause everyone else has already written me off as town. and that feels exactly like what has happened here, cause town doesn't start like hu tao did, then never return to that style of posting

[Andante]

I see people defending Glitch as bad play but is that what they are known for or something? Why is that the defense being given?

no gonna lie, this was the pop in I felt was wolfy, cause I was like "scum is going to pop in here" it was just the timing/what we were talking about, and then the fact Hu Tao never said/did anything after? I am telling yall, I am dead set on hu tao scum. I don't believe you can convince me otherwise

[Andante]

I see people defending Glitch as bad play but is that what they are known for or something? Why is that the defense being given?

no gonna lie, this was the pop in I felt was wolfy, cause I was like "scum is going to pop in here" it was just the timing/what we were talking about, and then the fact Hu Tao never said/did anything after? I am telling yall, I am dead set on hu tao scum. I don't believe you can convince me otherwise

after this, conversation immediately went to skygazer lurking, so in hu tao's books? mission accomplished. flying under the radar enough to not get voted out here. and what have they even done??? it's just a casual read on glitch, and that's ALL they're doing. like, I understand 17p game you're not reading everyone, but yeh.


ok sorry for all the posts, it just really feels like I'm the only one seeing this/caring about this.

[Andante]

ty!

and like, if for whatever reason I'm wrong here, I will shut up tomorrow, and not be as vocal as this, I promise!!
but like, I just feel CERTAIN yall, if anyone else feels significantly different, I'm down to hear, but it doesn't sound like any of these other "cases" are even as close to as confident as I am

[Andante]

i still dont especially want to kill hu =_=

Then why are you voting for them?

andante really wants me to

i dunno

awww ty!! but if you don’t want to lim hu, that’s ok!! I can recruit others!!

update: still not a hu fan after that pop in

[Andante]

I'm at work the next four days of my life and that can mean I may not be able to post as much. However, I'm sort of at the point in D1 where I'm ready for the game to move on before D1 becomes useless with fluff. Let's get some real information to play with soon, please.

d1 just started getting real though? are we reading the same d1?

[Andante]

I'm at work the next four days of my life and that can mean I may not be able to post as much. However, I'm sort of at the point in D1 where I'm ready for the game to move on before D1 becomes useless with fluff. Let's get some real information to play with soon, please.

also like, why would you not want lots more posts? when the issue is no one posting?

d1 just started getting real though? are we reading the same d1?

[Andante]

I seriously only see the same 5 voices talking.. this game is not going to work if it's 5 of us versus 12 lurkers.. like sorry, but just.. if we think about that math for 1 second... I don't even care if you only have 1 read on 1 person right now, like, who is your BEST GUESS for scum? like, I don't care if that answer is me. I would LOVE to start hearing voices. like, if you ignore the wagons, could have all of us sheep you, who would you full send this on?
I WANNA HEAR YALL OUT!!!!

plz

Kowah is pretty scummy imo.

But it's actually even harder than usual for me to read the game when more than half of players just don't exist.

this “end day before useless fluff” post is kinda like… feels like this standard textbook thing to say… like, this game has no one posting, just yesterday I went from a no poster to active, so like.. hmm I’m interested in your kowah sr reasons!!

and yeah I fully agree with you on that one

[Andante]

So I am demoralized too.

yeah.. I feel, but hey no stress, here for a good time!!! and if half the people who joined, joined to not play… this is on them!! we’re trying our best with what we have :)

[Andante]

MalcolmTucker has made 31 posts this game and hasn't made a single vote on anyone. What do people make of that?

I think malcolm rarely votes

[Andante]

VOTE: NJAC

[Andante]

hu tao or NJAC, those are the 2 I’ll vote out here

[Andante]

we need something happening soon

[Andante]

I like the people on this wagon!
VOTE: Glitch

[Andante]

How many scum are usually in these large games? 4?

I think 4, sounds about right, maybe 5 weak? 4 feels like a good guess to me though

[Andante]

my gut says njac flips town so i probably won't help

ok!! then lets not flip njac!!!

[Andante]

can I just say I'm laughing at how dragons decided to outpost the mod XD

[Andante]

I'm doubtful that Glitch is scum. IMO it's way more likely that one of NJAC/Hu are scum.

what makes you so much more convinced about those 2?
or do you feel better about another option? like, FL being scum?

[Andante]

Also, Andate it would be way easier for us to lim somebody if you weren't constantly flip-flopping between every popular wagon.

ehhh

a) we need a wagon
b) not sure I feel as solid about hu tao scum since now they're kinda posting
c) too many people doing nothing for me to have much of an opinion

[Andante]

like, tldr: if you have a STRONG case I wouldn't be flip flopping, but like, if my TRs don't really want a wagon, I'm not pushing for it

[Andante]

VOTE: GuyInFreezer

[Andante]

I think there's at least one scum among the most active players.

So someone who has been least active, clearly followed along seeing people say NJAC was one of the least active, now all of a sudden "LET'S YEET TOP POSTERS"
like wtf?? I'll pass, it's day 1 of a large, and half the player list isn't playing, also you're just flat out ignoring the wagon forming on me, not stopping it, not encouraging it. feels scummy

VOTE: NJAC

[Andante]

like "I think there's at least one scum among the most active players." really isn't sitting right with me when it comes from one of the least active players, like yeah obviously there's going to be a scum in the active, but with how MANY inactives, I feel like odds are so much higher in the not so active

[Andante]

@Andante:

What are your reads on Greeting and Cephrir?

unsure and town

[Andante]

I think there's at least one scum among the most active players.

So someone who has been least active, clearly followed along seeing people say NJAC was one of the least active, now all of a sudden "LET'S YEET TOP POSTERS"
like wtf?? I'll pass, it's day 1 of a large, and half the player list isn't playing, also you're just flat out ignoring the wagon forming on me, not stopping it, not encouraging it. feels scummy

VOTE: NJAC

This is really dumb. From all that I said, and given that I explicitly said who are my scum reads, you decide to pick explicitly this portion of my post to vote for me.

Very poor reason to vote me. Try better.

the line is just that bad.

[Andante]

him and i have been active, more active than anyone else. he's my partner till the end of time

[Andante]

all of me and ceph? yes. somehow hu tao is now 3rd top poster? like what? hu tao was one of the lowest when I started pushing there. kindaaa sus

[Andante]

nah you got another option?

[Andante]

like, where's your head at? any TRs/SRs?

[Andante]

I kinda need a reason to think you're town, cause you've played exactly as scum!me does. early game, win the town points for irrelevant stuff, then dissapear, and now you're here cause game be kinda dead and you've been an option just about everyone has suggested, so now "hey look! I'm super town!!" when really you're just "an active person is scum! scum taking charge!!" like scum or not, ceph has contributed more than like the rest of you combined. I'm keeping him around till yall decide to start doing stuff

[Andante]

whatever, no thanks, cause I know you "sr" ceph and greeting. and greeting is a common name people are throwing around, and ceph is very active

[Andante]

real original SRs

[Andante]

hu tao maf, but i wanted to reevaluate that since hu tao started posting a bunch

[Andante]

ooh day 1 finally has a deadline

[Andante]

of the top 2 wagons I want the one who is voting me!
VOTE: hu tao

[Andante]

also going to

UNVOTE

for now.

reading this gist, makes me think Bub is scum, but not sure if that is my read or just a defensive reaction to him being on my wagon.

Ill vote tomorrow. and provide my current SRs.

MOD: is there anyway on the first page you can show WHO replaced WHO?

hmm karma dog's last 2 posts... so karma dog claims pr cause "won't be here at deadline" well it's now tuesday, 2 days after that deadline, you've been here and haven't done much

I kinda maybe want to revisit this wagon, like the "idk who possibly replaced who?!?!" feels like what scum me would do where it's like "I couldn't be partnered with X cause I wasn't aware of the replacement..

karmadog red flip means at least one of the replacements is also scum

[Andante]

VOTE: karma dog

[Andante]

not done, lightly skimming to get the gist, then will go back and do a deeper dive tomorrow. After the two initial serious wagons everything else have felt like the "tipping my toe in to see how it feels or what others think about it" pop up wagons. a swell of a couple votes, no real reason. thats kind of day one I guess.

like, no thoughts after lightly skimming? there was an ENTIRE conversation directly after the claim, I feel like town!karma dog would at least have some comment from that conversation...

[Andante]

Is anyone up for a glitch/enchant wagon

yeah

[Andante]

hey here's a wild idea what if i'm just right and all these wagons are on town. what am i supposed to do? im voting hu tao only because i think the other wagons are even worse

i can't interest anyone in enchant. malcolm is widely townread for some mysterious reason, we tried skygazer already (and wouldn't you know it, they've gone back to lurking), i don't have any reason for kittytacky they're just not being useful, and that's pretty much everyone i feel like voting. no one is going to vote any of these people with me if i don't have a better reason than "vibes," but i don't

i get offended when i draw suspicion that amounts to "i think you're such a bad scum player that you can't fake any reads" or whatever because i'm actually a very good scum player and perhaps you'll notice i've been on this website for 17 goddamn years surely i learned how to fake a read at some point

You realize there is NO DEADLINE AT THE MOMENT. You can push WHOEVER. What are your ACTUAL reads. Stop giving EXCUSES

there's no way you didn't see me say we had a deadline

[Andante]

Anyone not voting Curious why are you not voting Curious?

because of the pr claim. like, do we have to go over this again? curious claimed pr, and we opted to not yeet curious till they could come back, like, you can't just all of a sudden have this general "WHY ISN'T EVERYONE HERE"

like I literally just remembered curious existed with the mod question

[Andante]

Also sorry for my 1 line posts, I come from the now deleted EpicMafia. That's just how we posted there since it's chat mafia not this forum stuff. It's hard to break. I'm not trying to do it on purpose

and I'm also from EM, I don't see how that creates a problem??

[Andante]

@Mod shouldn't Malcom be replaced or prodded? It's been 3 days since their post. Not sure how it works but wouldn't that increase the deadline as well?

why are you TRYING to get more time added to the deadline... d1 has gone on long enough

[Andante]

I meant it because I really just wanna kill you

feeling a litle more on board with this too

I'm joining the club

[Andante]

tried to get it started now

uhh hu is literally only "trying to restart it now" because I wrote a giant paragraph on karma dog!scum

[Andante]

VOTE: hu tao

[Andante]

why are you out for my head?

[Andante]

cause it's feeling like you want me dead @Kowabunga

[Andante]

VOTE: Adante

I don't think curious will happen sadly

and you think a wagon on me will happen? lmao

[Andante]

tried to get it started now

uhh hu is literally only "trying to restart it now" because I wrote a giant paragraph on karma dog!scum

Yet you quickly jumped ship

???

[Andante]

your whole approach to my slot is literally as if you know I'm town, idk how you talk to me isn't feeling like you actually think im scum, more like I'm the only person you think you could flip the wagon onto

[Andante]

idk what the vc is or where my vote even is but hu tao is scum as I said before.
VOTE: hu tao

[Andante]

your whole approach to my slot is literally as if you know I'm town, idk how you talk to me isn't feeling like you actually think im scum, more like I'm the only person you think you could flip the wagon onto

this was @ hu

like, hu tao is acting as if they KNOW im town it's weird

[Andante]

Only 14 hours left. Looks like it's between me, Abdante and NJAC. I would prefer a Adante flip between those

lmao the fact you think me, you and NJAC are all on the same level. this can't be a serious post... like there's no world in which town is seriously wanting to lim me here. you're throwing my name in here cause ~self preservation ~

[Andante]

VOTE: Adante

I don't think curious will happen sadly

like, I was going through the ISO, I made a WHOLE BUNCH OF POSTS in response to stuff you had said and you ignored every single one simply because someone else voted me, and you went "yes! a wagon I can get!"

whatever, I have no interest in this, I just want hu tao yeeted

[Andante]

whatever, I don't have the energy to fight a wagon on me right now, the case against me is just... we don't like my playstyle? sorry I was having fun, like, yeah, I was having a good time, and not like half this PL was doing anything... that clearly makes me the best lim.

[Andante]

If Ceph and Greeting wagons are not happening, then between Andante and Hu Tao I prefer the former. I'm not a fan of her erratic play, and her logic is bad.

VOTE: Andante

Ah, so we're voting andante for being andante. Excellent work everyone

Meta defenses. Love it

It's not even meta that's literally her personality

1 person believes in me!! thank you Ceph <3

[Andante]

Hu Tao is obv town at this point, imo.

Hu Tao is so obv scum at this point...

[Andante]

and yeah that's all the effort you get out of me right now, sorry. I'm town though, wouldn't recommend limming me, but yall do you I guess. I'm being limmed for having fun? damn that sucks. almost sucks as much as the fact... actually jk, I don't want the "BROOO TALKING ABOUT THE DOG FOR ATE!!!!"

ok, well have fun I guess. I would highly recommend yall ask the people why they're voting me BEFORE I flip, cause 1 person said they hate me having fun, and the rest literally have no reason...

[Andante]

VOTE: Enchant

[Andante]

do people still wanna do enchant/glitch? cause enchant is not town here lol

[Andante]

hu tao is 1, enchant is another

[Andante]

idk what the vc even is

[Andante]

just, I think this last minute wagon on me is like... wtf???

[Andante]

YOU ALL DOOMED I REPLACED IN VIGILANTE SLOT

YOU ALL DOOMED I REPLACED IN VIGILANTE SLOT

Are you really?

MAYBE i am not lying.

I am also letting you know that I won't claim until I'm at L-1 AND someone manifests clear and loud their intention to hammer.

If you eliminate me without letting me claim, it will be Town's fault for playing poorly.

Intent to hammer.

I warning prematurely.

Let's play this as mountanious.

Hey look counterwagon

VOTE: Andante

I am Medium

I believe Enchant literally started the wagon on me. you SR me more than this???

[Andante]

like hello, Enchant actually does stuff as town. shit posts as scum.

[Andante]

Enchant's entire ISO screams "I replaced into a scum slot!"

[Andante]

yet yall are blindly sheeping enchant on this random wagon on me...

[Andante]

like hello, Enchant actually does stuff as town. shit posts as scum.

That's completely true^

Thanks for starting this wagon on me friend ._.

[Andante]

I've been scum with Enchant before, and Enchant's a great scum partner, so I don't 100% agree with that, but playstyle wise I can see it coming across like that, but like Enchant still does play the game.

enchant literally just agreed with my statement..

so you would say enchant is playing this game right now and I'm not?
LIKE WHAT THE HECK IS GOING ON

[Andante]

know what, please lim me.. cause yall are just... nah I'm over this.
my claim? LMAO have fun, cause if you wanna yeet me last minute like this, means you don't care what my claim is, oh scum will be laughing at this flip

[Andante]

I'm not fully sold on Andante scum either

@ALL

Take notes, this is the attitude of everyone on my wagon. None of them truly believe I am scum, so after I flip town they are shrugging it off and going "not my fault her playstyle sucks"

[Andante]

uhhh yeah you should be pretty sold on the person you're voting flipping scum... it's kinda how this game works

[Andante]

i didn't know i had signed up to play with my husband and 15 clowns

hey hey!! I’m no clown!!! I saw PL and was happy you 2 were here

[Andante]

i bet scum are just as baffled by the scumreads on me as i am

it’s the same people who wanted a wagon on me tbh

[Andante]

VOTE: cephrir

i want out

hey hey hey!!! you told me no giving up!!

[Andante]

VOTE: skygazer

[Andante]

VOTE: skygazer

What are your thoughts on me. Do you still think I'm still scum

if you put your vote back on skygazer I’ll give you a d1 tr

[Andante]

if 4 more people wanna be my biggest fan I can be freee

[Andante]

Andante (4): Kowahbunga, GuyInFreezer, Flavor Leaf, Venmar

+ enchant

That wagon just.. lmaooo ok.. rock solid TRs on them... Like, I have a level of SR on literally all 5 of these people

[Andante]

no clue who venmar replaced but he has been scummy af

[Andante]

Maybe I'm wrong. I dunno.

Still a lot of scummy slots I'd toss in the machine today tho

am i scummy slot?

[Andante]

Scum points added to a slot I was largely townreading.

I mean, shouldn't you be concerned if you don't sr anything I do?

[Andante]

Andante will just kill me if we let her off the hook

…although that is actually a plus

Will I now... did you know it's possible for town to have killing power? )

[Andante]

if we end up letting Andante off the hook.

pshhh was I ever really on a hook?

[Andante]

Don't think Ceph seems scummy at all either.

I think you have TMI that Ceph is town, and you being scum also fits with the "ehhh adante is getting scummy..." you're trying to throw enough shade my way to support the lim on me, after you started the game trying to pocket me...
Cause I can definitely point to something scummy ceph did... not that I SR him right now, but to say "not scummy at all" that's a lie..

Call me crazy but I legit think Malcolm is scum here.
VOTE: Malcolm

[Andante]

Scum points added to a slot I was largely townreading.

I mean, shouldn't you be concerned if you don't sr anything I do?

the "throwing scum points at my strong tr" is literally just a way to encourage the wagon on me. This wagon would only need encouraging if a scum buddy had a wagon going their way.. so Skygazer possible partner? cause that wagon started looking semi serious??
(I hope what I'm saying makes sense to someone else)

[Andante]

Early town vibes from both Flavor and Andante.

For some reason I kinda get town feeling from Flavor wanting to hold back on their early read a bit. Scum Flavor typically likes to take control of the game from my experience (I think they state that in their guide), and in a quiet activity game so far it'd be a perfectly early chance for them to create mischief and get a wagon going on a townie if they were scum.

Andante stating they could make a better scumcase on themselves feels townie because I'm not sure it's the type of statement scum wants to be making early in the game unless very confident. It's also a good and clear way of articulating why you think a scumread on you is weak without just looking pissed off at getting scumread.

I think back to this, the early "oh andante town!!!"
like, you don't make early "reads" like this if you aren't SURE.. but now all of a sudden it's like "yeah scum points!!!" like this post is literally Malcolm TRing me for the post that half yall are voting me for... also reading this post screams "I know you're town and here's some BS reasoning to TR you"

[Andante]

I don't tr it at all. that's malcolm going "I haven't done anything all game, here's posts to make you TR me"

[Andante]

like, you don't make early "reads" like this if you aren't SURE

?

Why say "early townlean on andante for this" like, if you're giving a read on me, especially as someone who has played a lot of games with me, you should be fairly confident in it. Like, malcolm has been in a lot of the games I've played.. so to me that post is like "ah easy read! andante town!!"

and now all of a sudden I get scum points for?? what?? like FL literally SRs that post that gave malcolm the early tr on me

[Andante]

Malcolm is scum. I am confident, locking that in, voting Malcolm till the end of time. I cc whatever malcolm claims. (that last one was a joke)

[Andante]

Andante will just kill me if we let her off the hook

…although that is actually a plus

Will I now... did you know it's possible for town to have killing power? )

If you’re a vig pls shoot me N1

Sorry Malcolm just stole it, you can have n2

[Andante]

VOTE: skygazer
end day plz

[Andante]

My read of them will shift depending on if the likes of Cephir/Andante/Kitty are scum or not.

Easy, I'm not scum.

[Andante]

I see no reason for this wagon on NJAC to have been dropped. Nothing has fundamentally changed about their play since it first formed, they remain fairly quiet and cautious in their play in a way I find believable in scum, and I don't think all that many people have particularly moved their read on the slot? That it was so close to working out and yet seems to have faded away seems suspicious to me, don't like it at all.

The vote on Skygazer isn't great either given that wagon has sort of popped up out of nowhere.

VOTE: NJAC

That vote isn't happening today. What do you think about venmar though?

Malcolm is scum with Skygazer

[Andante]

The vote on Skygazer isn't great either given that wagon has sort of popped up out of nowhere.

Also I'd like to point out Malcolm says that wagon came from no where... yet doesn't adress how my wagon came from no where..

Malcolm + Skygazer are partners

[Andante]

like skygazer cares more about "haha I got to beetle juice!!!" than doing literally anything, like why are you concerned about this wagon unless... oh wait, partners

[Andante]

Malcolm is scum. I am confident, locking that in, voting Malcolm till the end of time. I cc whatever malcolm claims. (that last one was a joke)

I wish I could have the confidence you have in your scumreads that I'd have in mine

I mean it all makes perfect sense, I'm trying to explain it for yall. Malcolm and Skygazer are buddies... litterally why Malcolm was sending shade my way and distracting with a NJAC vote.

NJAC probably town cause of this

[Andante]

gut says FL is also scum with Malcolm+Skygazer, but I'm not as confident on that one yet.

[Andante]

ty ty, I will give venmar a solid look for you tomorrow, but I can just about guarantee I'm tunneling Malcolm upon Sky flipping scum

[Andante]

idk, day ONE just needs to end soon like, if we spend a full year on this.... ahhhhh

[Andante]

hu tao, sorry for the sr earlier, I'm kinda thinking you're town now...
didn't have too much to work with at the time... I'm glad we didn't lim you

[Andante]

like skygazer cares more about "haha I got to beetle juice!!!" than doing literally anything, like why are you concerned about this wagon unless... oh wait, partners

this does give me flashes of them being town and just not caring but it could be a refuge in audacity

nahhh it feels more like scum struggling to talk to look towny/whatnot, plus I think Malcolm legit just claimed partners with skygazer

[Andante]

he probably thinks it's funny :/

[Andante]

The timing of this is amazing I know, but I'm dealing with something in real life right now, I'm gonna just say I'm V/LA till like monday, unless I get good news tomorrow then no V/LA, but I don't see how it'll be good, so yeah sorry, I can try and check in sat/sun, but who knows, sorry. hopefully we yeet scum before then! but yeah my mind is in worst case scenario right now, and I.. yeah.

TLDR: V/LA till like monday

[Andante]

replacing cephrir

NOOO

[Andante]

VOTE: curious karma dog

[Andante]

And great another replacement. We should have just ended the day

I mean, nothing is stopping us from voting someone out

[Andante]

Not really about the game but more about modding the game, I understand the principle behind extending the days for replacements, but I do wonder if it would be better off to clamp down on a hard deadline at this point.

feels like a scummy thing to say since I was set to be the lim the first time before a replacement, and I'm town, so like scum would've had a town lim by now, and Skygazer is scum, almost got limmed...

Bub, Skygazer, Malcolm, Curious. There's your scum team folks.

[Andante]

what about it?

[Andante]

VOTE: skygazer

[Andante]

how many times are you gonna make me ask

I think you're gonna have to ask again!

[Andante]

after a flip

after your flip?

[Andante]

Did I just spend a minute and 10 seconds listening to WHOOO WHOOOO WHOOOO... WHOOO?? yes. yes I did. and my dog came running over like what??? XD but sorry dog, wrong question! It's Who. not What!!!

[Andante]

It's just so cheap and easy and those players have been bouncing around to popular wagons like crazy.

did you ever think we literally just want the day to end? and as long as we're not voting a TR of mine, I don't really care who we vote

[Andante]

wow. wanting day to end? what a freaking concept...

[Andante]

It's just so cheap and easy and those players have been bouncing around to popular wagons like crazy.

did you ever think we literally just want the day to end? and as long as we're not voting a TR of mine, I don't really care who we vote

Skygazer has been a cheap and easy wagon to push for long before we started to get to the day's deadline. It was always the laziest/lowest effort option and it served to diffuse wagons around the Hu/Andante wagons -- one of which I'm sure was one scum.

and the wagon on me isn't a cheap and easy push? like wtf are you talking about

[Andante]

VOTE: Andante
set me free please

[Andante]

idk what the vc even is on me. Bub only started pushing me after I softed PR, and know what, if I am PR, sure sucks for town doesn't it

[Andante]

You've bounced around to every halfway popular wagon that has come up.

BECAUSE I AM TRYING TO END THE DAY. NOT ONCE DID YOU SPEAK UP SAYING THAT POPULAR WAGON WAS TOWN

[Andante]

VOTE: Skygazer

[Andante]

I was kidding, we shouldn't vote me out, even if I am beyond fucking annoyed right now

[Andante]

instead of telling me how bad I am at mafia, why not go and convince people to vote me, cause I don't see the actual point in continuing this conversation

[Andante]

@Malcolm, Kitty, Sky, Flavor, curious: you should pick one of the biggest wagons at this point.

why did you leave Eiralox off that list

[Andante]

Hello I'm the replacement ballpointpen, an aardvark hair brush. I hope I'll be caught up tommorow to see if I can wrap.my head round things, at least what I've seen past few pages is 'vote Andante' or 'vote Skygazer' and everyone feels real impatient to get one of them through. Other than that I like anime, saw that pen seemed not to so meh got that going for me I guess >.<

hey. it's tomorrow now

[Andante]

so you vote Eira the second you show up, give no reason. then you call me maf, and don't vote me till someone else says to?

[Andante]

yeah im not reading andante's full iso but it seems like a bunch of bad

this feels like a bold statement to make from someone who just repped in

[Andante]

your start was exactly how everyone caught you in the micro i played with you. you started out jumpy af and it spewed to the thread. you're doing the same thing here so i think as far as d1s you're a better option than skygazer who isnt scummy

welcome to ~my personality~
I miss Cephrir

[Andante]

I would stop making your reads on the basis I flip scum. just saying... cause I hate to dissapoint, I aint flipping red. I'm town af