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hello VOTE: malakittens

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i just saw john wick 4,.,what a picture

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Fair.
Not sure what the random votes are for so I'll just sheep tchill, maybe he had a reason to switch.
VOTE: T3

its just something people do to get the game going

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Fair.
Not sure what the random votes are for so I'll just sheep tchill, maybe he had a reason to switch.
VOTE: T3

T3 has one post announcing he's v/la til sunday and voting the mod. what reason could he have to switch?

VOTE: collegegoer

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Des is hard town for providing a tier list without the order on page 3.

T3 is hard scum for using a joke vote then declaring VLA. I have nothing against being busy. T3 would have been better off just saying hi.

I dont see it

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college is scum tho

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I doubt doubt the need for a VLA I'm just saying he didn't have to vote someone not in the game beforehand as an introduction.

You voted someone not in the game as an introduction!

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VOTE: tchill

So tchill, college and who else?

This is easy

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I doubt doubt the need for a VLA I'm just saying he didn't have to vote someone not in the game beforehand as an introduction.

You voted someone not in the game as an introduction!

Can you walk me through this? I don't think I understand your reasoning.

whats to walk through? Tchill is attacking T3 for voting the mod to start the game. Tchill voted the mod to start the game

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college is scum tho

do you think the opening posts are faked?

On revision, its probably not college and tchill together. I think tchill is worse at this stage

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I doubt doubt the need for a VLA I'm just saying he didn't have to vote someone not in the game beforehand as an introduction.

You voted someone not in the game as an introduction!

Can you walk me through this? I don't think I understand your reasoning.

whats to walk through? Tchill is attacking T3 for voting the mod to start the game. Tchill voted the mod to start the game

Mitillos' post explains it pretty well that there's a bit more to Tchill's reasoning than that. It'd be nice if you could elaborate further.

T3's V/LA was not long enough for there to be a substantive difference in how he opened the game vs how Tchill did. it's a bogus attack.

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I'd like for you to point out the difference in a bogus attack and a poorly reasoned attack redff.

why

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Just for the sake of it.

not a good enough reason to answer your inane question

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Bogus is to say that I do not believe what I am saying. Day 1 intros are sometimes extremely awkward for scum. Feels like T3 seen an easy route to intro then leave for a bit. As opposed to me who was still going to be around to interact.

how do you feel about malakittens. he's still voting the mod

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My bad lads prod recieved.

I still dont like the tchill push on t3 but im willing to move on and can devote some time tonight

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VOTE: dessewsure

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i like the dessew push from mitillos, easily the most coherent case put forth today

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Then you look at his most recent post, asks about College's vote on DEB. Town doesn't ask this question. I honestly can't see what you guys can, because his posts have been imo null at best

in this situation, where multiple people who you think are town believe that Mitillos is town and are feeling partial to the case on you, why do you become more convinced of Mitillos being scum, rather than question your view of the game?

I have been listing problems I have with Mitillos' posts, has anyone addressed them?
Also, does your question mean you think I'm town? You wouldn't ask this from mafia.

Maybe I do a question. Why am I obv!town to you @dessew? I mean, I know it’s obvious but in your words

I've been a bit torn on this, but I guess if there's daytalk, then it helps town more if we say it openly. You breadcrumbed being neighbours with DEB, right? It was very obvious, and you also messed up the spoiler tag. Neighbour is a town role afaik, and of all the roles, mafia should be tha least likely to fakeclaim it because if we have any investigative town role, they only need to check one of you, so it's a definite towntell for me.

On that note, even if you don't concede that Mitillos is mafia, we should also establish that he's on some PT because of his slip-up. I have this theory that T3 might be in the same PT, but I'm not 100% about this.

I think you are confusing neighbors with masons.

Neighbors are players who share a pt, but do not know each others alignments.

Masons are neighbors who are confirmed town to each other.

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I was recently in a game with a 3 person neighborhood. 2 mafia and 1 town.

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I see the "crumb" dess refers to but u dont see how its a neigbor crumb

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I also think looking for PR crumbs is probably a scumtell?

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I know i defended him earlier but T3 can go if were not doing dessew i have no problem with that. His posts since the model UN thing have been dogshit

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I think you are confusing neighbors with masons.

Neighbors are players who share a pt, but do not know each others alignments.

Masons are neighbors who are confirmed town to each other.

You're right, I've also confirmed it with the wiki. I have to rethink the game.
Btw, the pink starfish is the yellow cheese's neighbour.

What I'm saying about T3 is that if Mitillos is mafia, then T3 is likely also mafia.

Are there any popular normal setups with neighbours? The role sounds like a nightmare to balance.

We've still got a little more than an hour. The deadline is also during the day for most of us, I think (not for me, though).

Neighbor is a fairly useless role u

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I dont really like that t3 claim? Gives him until day 4 before we get any sort of confirmation. The claim makes me feel he is more likely to be scum

VOTE: t3

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unvote

Ok fine. If theres another vig dont cc just shoot t3

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Yes DD, t3 claimed novice odd night vigilante

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Yes DD, t3 claimed novice odd night vigilante

Yes I just went back a page and saw that.

Is there a tl;dr version of p5 up until now? I don't want to obfuscate things too much by keep posting my page by page reads.

Why dont you just read the whole game, take notes, and give us your thoughts collected in one post

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I dont really like that t3 claim? Gives him until day 4 before we get any sort of confirmation. The claim makes me feel he is more likely to be scum

VOTE: t3

This is e-1 I believe?

i unvoted

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We only have 7 hours until deadline. I dont like the claim backtrack either but we can see what happens overnight.

We only have 7 hours til deadline so we need a lim here.

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@mod can we get a VC please

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Ill be around today but we need to align on a lim fast to avoid NL

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7 HOURS TIL DEADLINE

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VOTE: enchant

In the interest of avoiding a no lim

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I think we should avoid directing t3s shot.

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I checked normal guidelines and there's no SK in mini normal games. So im willing to take t3s word for it on his vig claim. T3 who did u shoot.

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VOTE: bristep

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Bristep has done fuck all and shoulda bussed his scumbuddy when he had the chance !

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I checked normal guidelines and there's no SK in mini normal games. So im willing to take t3s word for it on his vig claim. T3 who did u shoot.

dr easy bake

smh

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So emperor was the scumkill. He was fairly active and doing stuff

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I checked normal guidelines and there's no SK in mini normal games. So im willing to take t3s word for it on his vig claim. T3 who did u shoot.

Can you link the guidelines, so we can all confirm?

viewtopic.php?t=76062

Mini normal games must have exactly one anti-town group of at least two players, and no other anti-town factions. Large normal games must contain at least one anti-town group of at least two players, and may contain up to two such groups. They may also contain up to one serial killer.

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VOTE: malakittens

Good post from DV i will sheep it!

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VOTE: malakittens

Good post from DV i will sheep it!

10/10 amazing
original content

Thank you !

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i was being feticious like hardcore

Huh?

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Im aligned with the townblock DV laid out. Im probably ok with a dessew lim but i should have some time to reread the game over the weekend and i dont see a need to get this day over so fast.

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That is a good point re: t3 voting mala day 1 and scum letting him shoot

UNVOTE:
VOTE: bristep

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Dessews posting today seems genuine to me

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Hello. I got prodded.

Im treating t3 as conf town. I checked normal guidelines and couldnt find anything that would result in a second kill except for a vig. I saw mala called t3 "probable town" but im pretty sure hes confirmed. If anyone has any reason he might not be confirmed that im not seeing...

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Heres where my reads are rn

Town

T3
TChill
DV
Mittilos
Kop
Malakittens
Dessew
Doctor Drew
Bristep

Scum

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dess should claim

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ok

VOTE: dessew

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2 deaths again?

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if its t3 lying about his role, i dont really mind it. mala had to go

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I guess this site never started voting out all liars....

What the heck.

yea lim all liars is long in the past

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anyway

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i have a guilty on drew VOTE: doctor drew

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UNVOTE:

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im down to not steam roll.

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but dr drew is scum so he's the lim today

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i agree with you that we shouldn't steam roll through the day so fast. but i do have a guilty on doctor drew

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im not lying lol, i have a guilty on doctor drew.

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you told me you didn't wanna steam roll so i unvoted, why are you getting so mad? this seems fake tbh, are you his partner?

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i agree with you that town lying is generally bad. its not a big deal in t3's case though, since he is confirmed town, and claiming he was odd night only is not a big deal and may have got him an extra shot.

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i agree i think bristep is probably town from his interactions with drew.

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what are you so mad about? we are limming scum today, this is a good thing!

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i dont know why scum haven't killed T3 yet. my guess is that the last scum is a slot who is possibly widely townread, or at least townread by t3, and is fine with keeping him alive to shoot townies.

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"The game should have at least one Mafia or Werewolf group (of at least two members). In mini games (at most 13 players), there must be exactly one such group, with no third parties. In large games (at least 14 players), a second anti-town group can be given a separate Mafia family name, or can be a Werewolf group, and there should be no more than two mafia/werewolf factions, and no more than one Serial Killer."

i'm reading this quote from normal guidelines correctly right? There can only be an SK in large normal games and not in mini normals?

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what does it matter? i have a guilty on dr drew

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why are you trying to shade my guilty so hard? its pretty sus!

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i have my own reasons to not full-claim here
the salient point is i have a guilty on doctor drew

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well, we only need 4 so that shouldn't be a problem!

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VOTE: doctor drew

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that's not something i would ever do, i actually agree with you in general on Lim all liars.

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suit yourself

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Lol

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I have the guilty! You are lying scum!

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you are the one who is responding to a guilty, not me.

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w/e. im not gonna argue with you. more votes on drew

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In the interest of balance I should ask the same of Redff - why did you choose to investigate Doctor Drew?

Because i thought he was scummy

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The idea that tchill was pushing - that i could be town faking a guilty, is out the window now with drew's counterclaim. Its him or me at this point

Lets say im scum....why would i start the day by faking a guilty on a random player? I was under no pressure to be limmed. If im scum drew flips town, i get vigged or limmed the next day. It makes no sense. On top of that, the town player i fake a guilty on just so happens to have tracked me to the NK, but only claims this after i reveal i have a guilty on him. That would be a pretty big coincidence!

Regarding me full-claiming. Trust me when i say any additional information i have does nothing for town, and just gives more info to mafia. The only relevant point is that i have a guilty on drew.

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I haven't done anything "questionable" lol

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Drew claiming a guilty track on me removes the chance that i am a lying VT. Its either im scum or hes scum at this point.

And if im scum why would i randomly claim a guilty lol

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this is absurd ALL YOU CAN HAVE IS A NON GUILTY. it literally can only help town. My gosh man.

Thats just not true.

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absolute clownshow

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I'm not voting there today. No way. Not until you explain yourself.

generally if someone says they have reasons for not fullclaiming, it's best to take it at face value and trust them

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So tchill, you think im scum faking a guilty on doctor drew? Why would i do that?

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Its either me scum or drew scum, so voting me means you must believe drew.

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There are plenty of reasons for me not to fullclaim, what if im a joat, what if my role has modifiers, etc. If i had info relevant for town i would share it. The main point is that i have a guilty, and it makes no sense for me to be scum here. Meanwhile, drew just so happened to track me to the NK, but only said so after i annoucned i had a guilty on him. I think its pretty clear who is telling the truth here.

Tchill i recommend you take a step back and think about this situation and then vote drew.

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someone hammer this jabroni

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since im probably gonna be killed by scum, i think the last scum is in kop and bristep.

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ive thought about it a lot and i think its correct to claim this, i have an innocent on deasvail. if t3 shoots tonight, it'll be 4 player tomorrow with 2 players confirmed town. t3 shoots kop tonight, you lim bristep tomorrow, the game should be over. tchill is the wild card here but i think he's likely town from his irate posting today. its hard to fake.

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Gg all fun game

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VOTE: tchill

So tchill, college and who else?

This is easy

Haha