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Post Post #175 (ISO) » Mon Mar 27, 2023 3:35 pm

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In post 167, patchwork wrote: i took what you said as criticism lol not like "omg this is what people want me to do so i am doing it now"
As an aside, trying to change your playstyle to satisfy the expectations of others is likely to cripple your scumhunting effectiveness and not worth the time. Do what you need to do to find scum.

In this game, I think you are vaguely scummy for the way you have approached me and you're not going to convince me that those impressions are wrong by telling me those impressions are wrong. If you're town, go ahead and accept that I think you're more likely scum than not and do things you think will benefit town. My reads will evolve as the game progresses. If you're scum, go ahead and accept that I think you're more likely scum than not and do things you think will benefit scum. My reads will evolve as the game progresses. Either way, fixating on a single player and their read is a great way to eat an early elimination. ;)
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Post Post #176 (ISO) » Mon Mar 27, 2023 3:40 pm

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If I were to make a coalition right now it'd be me, delta, dunn, nsg, umlaut. Yes, I'm aware that this is not the 5 people I think are towniest.
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Post Post #177 (ISO) » Mon Mar 27, 2023 3:41 pm

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In post 174, Bingle wrote: I think you have absolutely no ability to read me, as evidenced by you coming to scumread me in literally every game I can ever remember playing with you,
this made me laugh a lot

anyways i acknowledge all of that, you're right in that i do (and already have) listen to what you have to say, and i'm certain that in time you will realize that i'm town.
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Post Post #178 (ISO) » Mon Mar 27, 2023 3:42 pm

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(for the record though, i'm leaning town on you)
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Post Post #179 (ISO) » Mon Mar 27, 2023 3:57 pm

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I don't want to know who they are if you have, but have you put any thought into associative reads?
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Post Post #180 (ISO) » Mon Mar 27, 2023 4:02 pm

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i've given it some thought, although i wouldn't say that i have anything non-trivial yet
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Post Post #181 (ISO) » Mon Mar 27, 2023 4:27 pm

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In post 175, Bingle wrote:
In post 167, patchwork wrote: i took what you said as criticism lol not like "omg this is what people want me to do so i am doing it now"
As an aside, trying to change your playstyle to satisfy the expectations of others is likely to cripple your scumhunting effectiveness and not worth the time. Do what you need to do to find scum.
it's not supposed to satisfy you, you pointed out i was being conservative (no, not in the republican way) when i was unaware of that so i went ahead and tried to chaneg that, idk how youre reading it that way
In post 175, Bingle wrote:My reads will evolve as the game progresses. Either way, fixating on a single player and their read is a great way to eat an early elimination. ;)
what does this mean
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Post Post #182 (ISO) » Mon Mar 27, 2023 4:28 pm

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townreads so far are probably nsg delta bingle
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Post Post #183 (ISO) » Mon Mar 27, 2023 4:29 pm

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okay i need to fix my sleep schedule so i'll be leaving now, but i'll talk about other players tomorrow when i'm not running on four hours (hopefully eight)
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Post Post #184 (ISO) » Mon Mar 27, 2023 4:29 pm

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In post 170, Dunnstral wrote: I don't want to come across as chainsawing.
Despite not liking this post, I think I should unpack this a bit.

I don't think that you intended the play as a chainsaw, or that you were specifically trying to rescue Kami. I don't even really think theoretical scum you was intentionally WK-ing Kame with that post, which might have been implied by my phrasing. But that, legitimately, is what it accomplished. Your retraction of a town read on Key immediately following Key's push on Kame undermined said push without directly defending Kame. That, by definition, is a chainsaw.

I think a theoretical scumyou who is scum with Kame would be more in tune to how your interactions would look and would naturally be more hesitant to make this kind of attack. That's the beginning and end of it.
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Post Post #185 (ISO) » Mon Mar 27, 2023 4:30 pm

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In post 181, patchwork wrote: what does this mean
Focusing on how other people read you is the worst approach to mafia, ime.
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Post Post #186 (ISO) » Mon Mar 27, 2023 4:35 pm

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@umlaut, what is your read on kame?
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Post Post #187 (ISO) » Mon Mar 27, 2023 4:38 pm

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I guess this will probably be necessary eventually, so to get it out of the way:

I'm Bingle. Also Jingle. At one point I was probably in the top 10% of scum players on site. I used to be okay at playing town, but nothing amazing.

I'm also best known for being an excellent moderator and a damn good reviewer, mostly of opens and mechanically complicated theme games.

It is my game philosophy to not lie about the mechanical advantages provided by tactics, so you can safely assume that when I say something mechanically oriented it is entirely NAI and also that I believe that there is a protown reason for me to promote that belief. I do lie about things being protown, but almost exclusively it's because I think telling the truth is actively harmful to town and rarely it's because telling the truth will mechanically lock scum me out of winning the game. I think locking in a coalition should be done by Friday at the latest.
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Post Post #188 (ISO) » Mon Mar 27, 2023 7:55 pm

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(pretend I quoted the votecount comment bc I don't know how to selectively quote on mobile) it's ok Lilith you're just putting the "imaginary" in imaginary creatures

HURT: Umlaut
More because I'm feeling an absence atm than anything else.

My main feelings on the coalition are that Bingle, Kawaii, N_M shouldn't be in there.

In post 187, Bingle wrote: I'm Bingle. Also Jingle.
I actually didn't know this until you inned to the game under Bingle - I'd seen a Bingle
around
but never really read your posts, just thought it was a coincidence that you had such similar names...

In post 165, northsidegal wrote:
In post 164, northsidegal wrote: i think right now my exclusion pool looks like {kame, dunn, keychain, umlaut}
interestingly, this exclusion pool exactly follows the heuristic that scum tend to be found in the lower half of posting frequency.

the direction of causality that you think that follows depends on your faith in my abilities as a scumhunter.
Though I understand you didn't actually use the heuristic, being put in the "more inactive" half of the game because I try to condense my thoughts instead of bloating pages with one thought per post rankles a bit :igmeou:
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Post Post #189 (ISO) » Mon Mar 27, 2023 8:00 pm

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Though I do wonder if N_M would hang a scum partner out to dry like this?
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Post Post #190 (ISO) » Mon Mar 27, 2023 8:11 pm

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In post 188, Keychain wrote: My main feelings on the coalition are that Bingle, Kawaii, N_M shouldn't be in there.
Also that north should be in there for sure, and Delta should probably be in there (unless he's scum with Bingle which I can't get out of my head). I know I just said I try and condense my thoughts but instead I'm steadily making myself late for work by having more thoughts
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Post Post #191 (ISO) » Mon Mar 27, 2023 10:58 pm

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HEAL: Not_Mafia, Not_Mafia, Not_Mafia, Not_Mafia, Not_Mafia,
Also, what is NM doing? Worst play I’ve ever seen.
I can't remember the last N_M post that wasn't bland, unimaginative and lame. Some shitposters are at least somewhat funny. You are the epitomy of the type of poster that nobody would miss if you were to suddenly disappear. You never add anything of value.
I'm guessing you haven't read the game and probably never will? Why even sign up to play?
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Post Post #192 (ISO) » Mon Mar 27, 2023 11:04 pm

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Page 1 scumpings: Bingle and Delta
Also, what is NM doing? Worst play I’ve ever seen.
I can't remember the last N_M post that wasn't bland, unimaginative and lame. Some shitposters are at least somewhat funny. You are the epitomy of the type of poster that nobody would miss if you were to suddenly disappear. You never add anything of value.
I'm guessing you haven't read the game and probably never will? Why even sign up to play?
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Post Post #193 (ISO) » Mon Mar 27, 2023 11:18 pm

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HEAL:
Keychain
patchwork
northsidegal
Umlaut
Dunnstral
Also, what is NM doing? Worst play I’ve ever seen.
I can't remember the last N_M post that wasn't bland, unimaginative and lame. Some shitposters are at least somewhat funny. You are the epitomy of the type of poster that nobody would miss if you were to suddenly disappear. You never add anything of value.
I'm guessing you haven't read the game and probably never will? Why even sign up to play?
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Post Post #194 (ISO) » Mon Mar 27, 2023 11:18 pm

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VOTE: River
Also, what is NM doing? Worst play I’ve ever seen.
I can't remember the last N_M post that wasn't bland, unimaginative and lame. Some shitposters are at least somewhat funny. You are the epitomy of the type of poster that nobody would miss if you were to suddenly disappear. You never add anything of value.
I'm guessing you haven't read the game and probably never will? Why even sign up to play?
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Post Post #195 (ISO) » Mon Mar 27, 2023 11:25 pm

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Is that it?

There's no-one called River in the game.
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Post Post #196 (ISO) » Mon Mar 27, 2023 11:25 pm

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There is in my dictionary
Also, what is NM doing? Worst play I’ve ever seen.
I can't remember the last N_M post that wasn't bland, unimaginative and lame. Some shitposters are at least somewhat funny. You are the epitomy of the type of poster that nobody would miss if you were to suddenly disappear. You never add anything of value.
I'm guessing you haven't read the game and probably never will? Why even sign up to play?
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Post Post #197 (ISO) » Mon Mar 27, 2023 11:27 pm

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I'm adamant that River not be included in the coalition
Also, what is NM doing? Worst play I’ve ever seen.
I can't remember the last N_M post that wasn't bland, unimaginative and lame. Some shitposters are at least somewhat funny. You are the epitomy of the type of poster that nobody would miss if you were to suddenly disappear. You never add anything of value.
I'm guessing you haven't read the game and probably never will? Why even sign up to play?
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Post Post #198 (ISO) » Mon Mar 27, 2023 11:28 pm

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I'll do whatever it takes
Also, what is NM doing? Worst play I’ve ever seen.
I can't remember the last N_M post that wasn't bland, unimaginative and lame. Some shitposters are at least somewhat funny. You are the epitomy of the type of poster that nobody would miss if you were to suddenly disappear. You never add anything of value.
I'm guessing you haven't read the game and probably never will? Why even sign up to play?
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Post Post #199 (ISO) » Mon Mar 27, 2023 11:28 pm

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What is happening
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