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[GuyInFreezer]

I guess I'm committed to defending ckd now. But that also means I need to provide an alternative. I don't think I can get Andante wagon to work with 4 days left.

...Does anyone townread Skygazer?

[GuyInFreezer]

There's definitely at least one scum in: {

KittyTacky

,

NJAC

,

Glitch

}. I'll see in the postgame if my instincts were right.

Why?

Why me fry me

[GuyInFreezer]

(Although ngl I'm kinda procrastinating rn. I haven't read a single MalcomTucker post yet)

I think malcolm is approaching my slot fairly, seems towny how he talks about me/his read on me

Uggggggghhhhhhh you're making me read MalcomTucker's posts.
His posts looked hella long which is why I haven't read his yet.

[Cephrir]

I guess I'm committed to defending ckd now. But that also means I need to provide an alternative. I don't think I can get Andante wagon to work with 4 days left.

...Does anyone townread Skygazer?

No, but can I interest you in ballpoint

[GuyInFreezer]

I'll let you know tomorrow.
Although ballpointpen was at my +1 list.

[Cephrir]

i guess i could go skygazer it feels a little bit like throwing up our hands and taking the slightly >rand option over really trying but that's not the worst thing ever

[Skygazer]

is the person with no posts ever actually scum these days?

[Skygazer]

been unexpectedly busy, will be able to make more of an effort soon but i gotta go pass out now

[Andante]

(Although ngl I'm kinda procrastinating rn. I haven't read a single MalcomTucker post yet)

I think malcolm is approaching my slot fairly, seems towny how he talks about me/his read on me

Uggggggghhhhhhh you're making me read MalcomTucker's posts.
His posts looked hella long which is why I haven't read his yet.

well I was giving you my thoughts cause you said you hadn't read malcolm and I said I saw a lot of his posts since they were about me. I didn't see anything that screams SR right now

[Cephrir]

is the person with no posts ever actually scum these days?

yeah, usually

[Bub Bidderskins]

is the person with no posts ever actually scum these days?

Well, they kind of look like scum when they do something like that.

[Kowahbunga]

kitty why are you more active here than in the game we just finished together where you were town?

I'm getting caught up, and I really dislike this post. It feels like a misleading POV where they don't want to just come out and say what they're thinking, they want to plant a seed and let people come to that conclusion.

[Kowahbunga]

The confusing thing to me now is that I scum read Curious for their ISO. But two of my three other scum reads are on him. Which makes me feel less confident in him being scum now.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Greeting

I'm going back here.

why am(was) I scum read? who are your other reads? Why wouldnt they be bussing me? As of this change of vote my wagon was Hu Tao, Bub Bidderskins, KittyTacky, Andante, Kowahbunga

but you vote greeting? So if you are not voting the other two scum reads, why are you voting greeting. none of this makes any sense.

man..

man I had you in my town pile before this post

I was scum reading you because of your early posting in your ISO. Pretty sure I've said that somewhere before. I'm voting Greeting because I feel stronger about them being scum than the two that I was leaning towards for even smaller things than you. Seeing them on you didn't sit well with me and made me feel doubt in all three of the reads. So I retreated to what I felt more confident about.

[Kowahbunga]

Like yes there are reasons why scum would claim like this.
But given situation CKD is in, what would be more likely for scum-CKD to do? Claim something weak and town wouldn't mind losing, or claim something strong that would give town a pause before putting a vote?

Something weak is less important and then if they survive over and over they can just be all like "told you it was weak blah blah"

Something strong is more important and will need to require results being produced or beg the question "why is scum letting you live?"

That would be the scum POV imo

[Glitch]

Because most of us don't even know if the wagon was on town or scum yet

Yes. But when we're all arguing over weak wagons and flimsy cases, then someone makes a claim that I find reasonably acceptable to believe at this stage at the game, why shouldn't that warrant at least examining the wagon on the PR-claiming player?

[Kowahbunga]

Like yes there are reasons why scum would claim like this.
But given situation CKD is in, what would be more likely for scum-CKD to do? Claim something weak and town wouldn't mind losing, or claim something strong that would give town a pause before putting a vote?

Something weak is less important and then if they survive over and over they can just be all like "told you it was weak blah blah"

Something strong is more important and will need to require results being produced or beg the question "why is scum letting you live?"

That would be the scum POV imo

You don't strike me as someone who would need this explained. This almost feels like a light defense of them.

[Glitch]

Can y'all elaborate on why wagon analysis is bad without a flip? Maybe I'm playing poorly but at least help me understand why.

cause it all relies on X being town/scum and if 1 person's alignment is the basis for all your reads, it's kinda just a waste of time tbh (I have learned from experience lol)

I mean I'm aware of the fact that I could be wrong and the PR claim doesn't mean they're town. But in a scenario with equally waffling cases in other directions it seems reasonable to me to believe the claim at this stage of the game; besides, if it's false, there's a LOT of game ahead where they're going to have to maintain this narrative they've boxed themselves into right off the bat, and as time and the game goes on, it'll be easier to catch them if they're scum because they're locked themselves into such a tight box moving forward.

So I get the point about confbias. I'm not saying that curious is conftown. I think that at this stage of the game there's no reason not to believe the claim, but that with more gameplay and actions happening, there'll be plenty of opportunity for that to either solidify and shore up, or crumble and fall apart.

[Kowahbunga]

...Does anyone townread Skygazer?

9:34pm

i guess i could go skygazer it feels a little bit like throwing up our hands and taking the slightly >rand option over really trying but that's not the worst thing ever

10:05pm

is the person with no posts ever actually scum these days?

10:09pm

been unexpectedly busy, will be able to make more of an effort soon but i gotta go pass out now

10:13pm

I'm not one to believe activity is alignment indicative. However, the timing of this is to me. A 40 minute block of suspicion gets their attention immediately. Like the immediate scenario that ran through my head was:

GIF posts suspicion of Sky, no worry yet...
Ceph posts they kind of want to look that way too... FOUR minutes and suddenly the busy bee finds a break in their schedule.

It's a conspiracy at best, because I have no way to prove it. But that's how it looks to me. Sky was already on my radar for 364 - so this may just be me wanting it to be true. I just think it looks suspicious to me.

[Glitch]

if I do make it to the night and we have a doc, please dont waste a protection on me.

Thoughts on this?
This is either: town pr soft claimed then tries to make it sound like it's nbd so they don't get mafia killed in the night
Or scum theatre

I lean town, why would scum claim D1 with a wagon that's uncertain to last to end of day?

[Glitch]

Spoiler: 442

...Does anyone townread Skygazer?

9:34pm

i guess i could go skygazer it feels a little bit like throwing up our hands and taking the slightly >rand option over really trying but that's not the worst thing ever

10:05pm

is the person with no posts ever actually scum these days?

10:09pm

been unexpectedly busy, will be able to make more of an effort soon but i gotta go pass out now

10:13pm

I'm not one to believe activity is alignment indicative. However, the timing of this is to me. A 40 minute block of suspicion gets their attention immediately. Like the immediate scenario that ran through my head was:

GIF posts suspicion of Sky, no worry yet...
Ceph posts they kind of want to look that way too... FOUR minutes and suddenly the busy bee finds a break in their schedule.

It's a conspiracy at best, because I have no way to prove it. But that's how it looks to me. Sky was already on my radar for 364 - so this may just be me wanting it to be true. I just think it looks suspicious to me.

This is such a stretch and I think should just be disregarded tbh

[Glitch]

Like I appreciate you trying but people being online at the same time meaning they're scum together is so flimsy.

Curious is going VLA. Can we disband the wagon and start a new one to prompt some more interesting events? If the general consensus at the end of the day is "let's all get back on curious and vote them off d1" then that can happen but riding that wagon for the rest of the day isn't productive.

Bub vote Hu Tao with me. Time to stir a new pot.

[Kowahbunga]

Spoiler: 442

...Does anyone townread Skygazer?

9:34pm

i guess i could go skygazer it feels a little bit like throwing up our hands and taking the slightly >rand option over really trying but that's not the worst thing ever

10:05pm

is the person with no posts ever actually scum these days?

10:09pm

been unexpectedly busy, will be able to make more of an effort soon but i gotta go pass out now

10:13pm

I'm not one to believe activity is alignment indicative. However, the timing of this is to me. A 40 minute block of suspicion gets their attention immediately. Like the immediate scenario that ran through my head was:

GIF posts suspicion of Sky, no worry yet...
Ceph posts they kind of want to look that way too... FOUR minutes and suddenly the busy bee finds a break in their schedule.

It's a conspiracy at best, because I have no way to prove it. But that's how it looks to me. Sky was already on my radar for 364 - so this may just be me wanting it to be true. I just think it looks suspicious to me.

This is such a stretch and I think should just be disregarded tbh

I obviously don't disagree with you. Because, if you had read the post, you'd see that I say it's weak at best. Don't try to make it seem like I was trying to say that was some sort of hard evidence.

[GuyInFreezer]

This almost feels like a light defense of them.

I guess I'm committed to defending ckd now.

It

is

a defense.

[GuyInFreezer]

The whole point of those string of posts was to show you that given how CKD was approaching this game so far (overreacting to pressure), claiming something weak and soft would be directly opposite of scum-CKD's agenda.

[GuyInFreezer]

But I also made my posts like that because imo reaching an understanding on their own is much more effective than simply being told of stuff.