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[Cat Scratch Fever]

VC 1.02

With 13 players, it takes 7 to make a decision. Day 1 ends in (expired on 2023-04-13 10:30:00).

VC

bob3141 [3]:

ballpointpen [60], Marquis [111], Ethel [159]

Brian Skies [2]:

Cephrir [6], Save The Dragons [19]

northsidegal [2]:

Firebringer [44], NorwegianboyEE [148]

ballpointpen [1]:

bob3141 [49]

NorwegianboyEE [1]:

Elpis [51]

GuyInFreezer [1]:

northsidegal [65]

Not voting [3]:

Brian Skies, Alisae, GuyInFreezer

Mod Notes

Alisae still needs to pick up eir role PM

[NorwegianboyEE]

But in those games back then, the amount of time that first real wagon ended up on a player that flipped town at some point was greater than the chance of a random pick. Though doesn’t preclude them from benign scum but does make it on balance less likely.

Feels a bit weird to conclude so much from a wagon on Brian when they’ve only made 1 post so far and that was after the votes.

[Marquis]

UNVOTE:

[bob3141]

But in those games back then, the amount of time that first real wagon ended up on a player that flipped town at some point was greater than the chance of a random pick. Though doesn’t preclude them from benign scum but does make it on balance less likely.

Feels a bit weird to conclude so much from a wagon on Brian when they’ve only made 1 post so far and that was after the votes.

Its from my experince from the games i played in 2020 and 2021. Most often that first wagon ended up on town with a few cases with it being on scum. As i said earlier, off the top of my head the ratio of first wagon on scum to first wagon on town was somethign like 1:9. Which was cgeater than the ratio of scum to town for those games.

Those wagons came in all forms town heavy were the scum would jump off quickly, all town, scum heavy and town heavy when the town would be ones to jump off early

[Brian Skies]

Spoiler:

VOTE: brian skies

the sky in the flavor image is blue, pink and orange, but it doesn't appear to be brian at all

This post feels town to me.

Updated readslist:

Brian Skies - scum
bob3141 - town
northsidegal - town
Marquis - town
Alisae - town
GuyInFreezer - town
Cephrir - town
Ethel - town
Elpis - town
Save The Dragons - town
NorwegianboyEE - town
ballpointpen - town
Firebringer - town

VOTE: Brian Skies

Can we try getting Brian to L-1 before he makes a post. I think that would be fun

This one also feels town.

i wont allow it. i wont be buddied.
i am the one who will pocket everyone.

No one can pocket me. I will scumread everyone to protect myself from all buddying

Firepup feels like town.

Brian is never scum.

Literally can't remember when I last played scum.

hmm, i'm thinking that brian skies is probably scum

VOTE: brian skies

This one is probably evil.

Ez game VOTE: Brian skies

Probably town too.

VOTE: Cephrir
Bet you didn't expect that!

VOTE: Cephrir
Bet you didn't expect that!

et tu, erminé?

Vive la République!

First post is meh, could go either way. Second post bumps it up to town.

And then the game devolves back into RVS. Reads:

Town
Marquee
Firepup
Ethel
Bob
Cephrir
Save the Dragons
----------------------
Norwee
Gif
Elpis
Ballpointpen
Alisae
---------------------
NSG
Scum

I'm caught up now.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Hmm ok.
Wagon analyzis sounds a bit like magic to me but i guess i’ll take your word for it.
So what do you think the wagon on Brian is formed of? Mostly town? Scum?

[bob3141]

At times it does feel like magic and at times like you have been trying to find patterns in fruit pips.

But at this stage its to often to early to be able to tell the wagon composition esp on that first wagon of day one. With most games you could only see once players started to flip. The 4 votes on brain all landed with an hour of the game starting with it quickly dropping back down to 3 after the 4th.

[Firebringer]

cephrir whats my alignment.
and it better be scum

[Marquis]

Spoiler: bob - back and forth on this read

VOTE: ballpointpen

Feels like they believe teh pen is mighter than the sword

comes in end of page 2, we were already kind of leaving RVS, and this felt like an out of place attempt to keep themselves in casual RVS, rather than engage with what was happening

Bob's later posts kinda read as misguided town though, so I can also see this first post as town not reading anything and just throwing a vote while thinking of how to make it clever. I do that too

Spoiler: ballpoint - lean scum

i was going to write my post using chatgpt but i don't have to balls to do that in a foreign forum

VOTE: bob3141

i don't know if your username is a reflection of not knowing pi to 5 digits or just an attempt to trigger everyone, which is far worse

if more than 3 people want to see the chatgpt attempt i will post it and let you guys figure out what i asked chatgpt to write to create such a post

VOTE: ballpointpen

Feels like they believe teh pen is mighter than the sword

average keyboard fan vs average pen enjoyer

ballpoint's posts here felt like too much at once, trying too hard to be RVS chill... like when someone says "do whatever i don't care" specifically because they do kinda care

before bob started to read townier, I saw this exchange through the lens of scum theatre

forum mafia is basically armchair psychiatry yeah but thats how I felt reading these exchanges

[Elpis]

I think everyone is scum except fire, that's how pocketing works right

[Elpis]

Spoiler: bob - back and forth on this read

VOTE: ballpointpen

Feels like they believe teh pen is mighter than the sword

comes in end of page 2, we were already kind of leaving RVS, and this felt like an out of place attempt to keep themselves in casual RVS, rather than engage with what was happening

Bob's later posts kinda read as misguided town though, so I can also see this first post as town not reading anything and just throwing a vote while thinking of how to make it clever. I do that too

Spoiler: ballpoint - lean scum

i was going to write my post using chatgpt but i don't have to balls to do that in a foreign forum

VOTE: bob3141

i don't know if your username is a reflection of not knowing pi to 5 digits or just an attempt to trigger everyone, which is far worse

if more than 3 people want to see the chatgpt attempt i will post it and let you guys figure out what i asked chatgpt to write to create such a post

VOTE: ballpointpen

Feels like they believe teh pen is mighter than the sword

average keyboard fan vs average pen enjoyer

ballpoint's posts here felt like too much at once, trying too hard to be RVS chill... like when someone says "do whatever i don't care" specifically because they do kinda care

before bob started to read townier, I saw this exchange through the lens of scum theatre

forum mafia is basically armchair psychiatry yeah but thats how I felt reading these exchanges

Very heavily amused by calling it armchair psychiatry, but it definitely does allude to reading far too much into every little statement like that, very funny

[Elpis]

But in those games back then, the amount of time that first real wagon ended up on a player that flipped town at some point was greater than the chance of a random pick. Though doesn’t preclude them from benign scum but does make it on balance less likely.

Feels a bit weird to conclude so much from a wagon on Brian when they’ve only made 1 post so far and that was after the votes.

Its from my experince from the games i played in 2020 and 2021. Most often that first wagon ended up on town with a few cases with it being on scum. As i said earlier, off the top of my head the ratio of first wagon on scum to first wagon on town was somethign like 1:9. Which was cgeater than the ratio of scum to town for those games.

Those wagons came in all forms town heavy were the scum would jump off quickly, all town, scum heavy and town heavy when the town would be ones to jump off early

So if I'm reading this properly, the analysis is that brian is likely town, with no information to gain on the contents of the wagon?

[Marquis]

I started to think this before I left MS years ago but

I'm pretty sure the best course of action, instead of an unmanageable 200-page day 1,

is just power-wagon someone who isn't obvtown and figure out the rest of the game starting day 2 based on the flips, wagons, and behaviors around that

VOTE: ballpoint

id be p happy if anyone who townreads me partakes in the bloodlust alongside me!! :]

[Marquis]

I don't know if you intentionally

Very heavily amused by calling it armchair psychiatry, but it definitely does allude to reading far too much into every little statement like that, very funny

yeah I agree that's also my self analysis but in an environment where we're reading each other based simply on words and not voices, faces, and body language, that

is

kind of the root that the rest of the game grows from

[Elpis]

You know, I would actually enjoy a non-200 page day 1. I'm willing to join on that for the moment I think

VOTE: Ballpoint

[Elpis]

I don't know if you intentionally

Very heavily amused by calling it armchair psychiatry, but it definitely does allude to reading far too much into every little statement like that, very funny

yeah I agree that's also my self analysis but in an environment where we're reading each other based simply on words and not voices, faces, and body language, that

is

kind of the root that the rest of the game grows from

Oh i'm sorry if that came across as some sort of judgement-- I actually agree with it

[Cephrir]

cephrir whats my alignment.
and it better be scum

scum

[Cephrir]

Spoiler: bob - back and forth on this read

VOTE: ballpointpen

Feels like they believe teh pen is mighter than the sword

comes in end of page 2, we were already kind of leaving RVS, and this felt like an out of place attempt to keep themselves in casual RVS, rather than engage with what was happening

Bob's later posts kinda read as misguided town though, so I can also see this first post as town not reading anything and just throwing a vote while thinking of how to make it clever. I do that too

Spoiler: ballpoint - lean scum

i was going to write my post using chatgpt but i don't have to balls to do that in a foreign forum

VOTE: bob3141

i don't know if your username is a reflection of not knowing pi to 5 digits or just an attempt to trigger everyone, which is far worse

if more than 3 people want to see the chatgpt attempt i will post it and let you guys figure out what i asked chatgpt to write to create such a post

VOTE: ballpointpen

Feels like they believe teh pen is mighter than the sword

average keyboard fan vs average pen enjoyer

ballpoint's posts here felt like too much at once, trying too hard to be RVS chill... like when someone says "do whatever i don't care" specifically because they do kinda care

before bob started to read townier, I saw this exchange through the lens of scum theatre

forum mafia is basically armchair psychiatry yeah but thats how I felt reading these exchanges

Very heavily amused by calling it armchair psychiatry, but it definitely does allude to reading far too much into every little statement like that, very funny

wait if mafia is armchair psychiatry can i count playing it as internship hours

also marquis is town if anyone didn't get the memo yet

[Marquis]

Very heavily amused by calling it armchair psychiatry, but it definitely does allude to reading far too much into every little statement like that, very funny

yeah I agree that's also my self analysis but in an environment where we're reading each other based simply on words and not voices, faces, and body language, that

is

kind of the root that the rest of the game grows from

Oh i'm sorry if that came across as some sort of judgement-- I actually agree with it

ok! I was going to say I don't know if you intentionally meant to sound sarcastic but that was my interpretation at the time

it was like it reminded me, I forgot how condescending this site could be at times. not you but it was always so unnecessarily mean like chill yall damn

[Firebringer]

I think everyone is scum except fire, that's how pocketing works right

Correct

[Firebringer]

cephrir whats my alignment.
and it better be scum

scum

then why wont u talk to me in our pt. Its very rude.

[Cephrir]

cephrir whats my alignment.
and it better be scum

scum

then why wont u talk to me in our pt. Its very rude.

im negging you to bring out your best work to impress me

[Cephrir]

for example you aren't claiming scum enough

[Save The Dragons]

VOTE: elpis

[Brian Skies]

I'm pretty sure the best course of action, instead of an unmanageable 200-page day 1,

is just power-wagon someone who isn't obvtown and figure out the rest of the game starting day 2 based on the flips, wagons, and behaviors around that

I'm a fan of power-wagons. However, I propose not eliminating the someone in the event they obvtown [or at least convinces most of us they're town].