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[Abnegation]

VOTE: IceDragon

Also I don't think either of us mentioned it, but we are ascetic.

-Drew

...oh no.

[Abnegation]

you do realize the implications of your claim, right?

[Hell Froze Over]

you do realize the implications of your claim, right?

I don't think I do?

-Drew

[Rautherdir]

Ascetic IC actually makes a lot of sense. No saving them from scum. That alone doesn't validate my role though cause they are an IC. (I mean I could spend a night checking it but they're probably going to die sooner or later anyways.)

[Rautherdir]

you do realize the implications of your claim, right?

It is good to get that ascetic claim out as an ascetic IC. Most doctors/similar would try to protect an IC normally, stating out loud that it won't work is a decent choice. (There is an argument for hiding it so that you can stay alive if scum think you are protected as well, but that's debatable.)

[Abnegation]

you do realize the implications of your claim, right?

I don't think I do?

-Drew

i was going to say "if you don't realize, i'll shut up because there's a chance others don't realize either," but rauther said it so i'll explain.
your ascetic claim makes you a target because protectives won't be able to save you.
if you had stayed silent, scum would have to debate killing you because of the possibility that their kill would be wasted.

[Rautherdir]

... I tend to assume scum is competent. This is perhaps not the wisest choice in all cases.

[Abnegation]

you do realize the implications of your claim, right?

It is good to get that ascetic claim out as an ascetic IC. Most doctors/similar would try to protect an IC normally, stating out loud that it won't work is a decent choice. (There is an argument for hiding it so that you can stay alive if scum think you are protected as well, but that's debatable.)

ehhh, not really. if the scum kill the ic while a doc is on them, a doctor protection anywhere else wouldn't necessarily give a better outcome.

[Abnegation]

*unless there's something else that can kill, which i'm not sure of since the mod said atypical faction abilities are possible.
i'm going to take a guess that one faction has a standard nk and one has something else.

[Hell Froze Over]

Ascetic IC actually makes a lot of sense. No saving them from scum. That alone doesn't validate my role though cause they are an IC. (I mean I could spend a night checking it but they're probably going to die sooner or later anyways.)

Oh I get what you were getting at Ab, as stated by Rauth here.

Bianco and I just wanted to make sure the checking wasn't wasted on us.

-Drew

Pre Edit: Ya there is that, but again we would be wasting a potential town protector on us.

There is good and bad to me making the claim here. But listen, I took the chance to be in a hydra lol, so might as well keep living dangerously.

[Rautherdir]

you do realize the implications of your claim, right?

It is good to get that ascetic claim out as an ascetic IC. Most doctors/similar would try to protect an IC normally, stating out loud that it won't work is a decent choice. (There is an argument for hiding it so that you can stay alive if scum think you are protected as well, but that's debatable.)

ehhh, not really. if the scum kill the ic while a doc is on them, a doctor protection anywhere else wouldn't necessarily give a better outcome.

I'd make an argument that we're in multiball so two kills, but it's specifically stated that factional abilities can be non-standard and also I don't know if Benediction is even antagonistic sooo fair enough.

[furtiveglance]

Drew is obviously capping to try and trick me into killing him. I won't fall for it, he and bianco are obviously getting protected tonight.

Right guys?

[furtiveglance]

Drew is obviously capping to try and trick me into killing him. I won't fall for it, he and bianco are obviously getting protected tonight.

Right guys?

Wrong PT

[Rautherdir]

I can see the merit to both claiming ascetic and not claiming ascetic, and in traditional multiball I'd say claiming ascetic is better. Gives the scum teams a chance to overlap kills on accident.
We most likely aren't in traditional multiball though so it goes down to the IC's choice.

pedit: 1-shot vet IC would be hilarious though.

[Abnegation]

Pre Edit: Ya there is that, but again we would be wasting a potential town protector on us.

my argument was that the town protective isn't wasted on the night you die because if they're killing you, they aren't killing someone else who the protective could save.
leaving conftown alive is also a disadvantage for scum and it would be nice if they wifomed themselves into doing it.
but the claim is done so this alternate world doesn't really matter anyways. just clarifying what i meant.

[Abnegation]

Drew is obviously capping to try and trick me into killing him. I won't fall for it, he and bianco are obviously getting protected tonight.

Right guys?

nah, he's saying that so you think he's capping and leave him alive.

abnegation shoots hell froze over.

[Abnegation]

^
wrong pt.

[Rautherdir]

If everyone targets Hell Froze Over tonight surely nothing would go wrong.

[Abnegation]

yeah, but that's a waste of town power.

[BlueSnakelet]

Wait, this has already started?

@Narration, I did not receive a daystart PM.

Wait a sec while I read the thread...

[Hell Froze Over]

Drew is obviously capping to try and trick me into killing him. I won't fall for it, he and bianco are obviously getting protected tonight.

Right guys?

nah, he's saying that so you think he's capping and leave him alive.

abnegation shoots hell froze over.

Jokes on you, we were a Jester!

GG all, was fun to finally play in a hydra.

-Drew

[Rautherdir]

We do have both a confirmed town and a very towny person by claim in Abnegation though, so. Who gets shot first is actually up in the air, probably depends on who scum is more worried about.

[Hell Froze Over]

Wait, this has already started?

@Narration, I did not receive a daystart PM.

Wait a sec while I read the thread...

[Hell Froze Over]

Wait, this has already started?

@Narration, I did not receive a daystart PM.

Wait a sec while I read the thread...

-Drew

[Rautherdir]

Jester IC would be an insane role.