Demon Slayer - Kimetsu no Yaiba (Game over)

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Enchant is probably scum too

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Firebringer?

I hardly know her!

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Lol, yeah

VOTE: hebichan

Enchant is probably scum too

what is making u see my angle now? what caused u to change ur mind. beucase i feel like u were aruging against me on not voting hebichan

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I don't know about Firebringer, but we can only eliminate one player at a time so let's go for the obvscum now and keep digging after

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btw this means i should be ur toptown if i am processing this correct.

Klick is my top town right now for convenience

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i saw them but i feel like my case on them was a stronger reason on why they were scum . im sorry i dont mean it like that but interactions with drew is something i probably not have looked for

I haven't read your case on hebi because I started the day already convinced that hebi was scum so there was no need to. Then I started thinking it was you so even more reason to ignore your case. And now I'm convinced that is hebi again so even MORE reason to not read your case.

It wasn't on purpose I'm not trying to not acknowledge you it was merely coincidental.

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I don't think you're scum bussing hebi, Grandpa

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I'm scumreading hebi, I'm voting hebi, that would be all. Good night!

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i feel like i want credit so badddd

Yeah I've noticed that, but credit is given when the game is already over, not during the game when nobody but you knows your alignment.

Well, and your scumteam, if you're part of it, but you know what I mean.

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Game ends, turns out Grandpa was town and was right about everything

Good job Grandpa!

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and u discredited me for it

Did I? No no, if hebi is scum you're not scum, I'm being straightforward about this

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Firebringer (I hardly know her)

What’s the world were both you and hebi are town looks like?

Do you think Grandpa could be town in that world, or is he confscum?

If Grandpa is town, I certainly am scum then; who else is scum?

If Grandpa is scum, can I be scum too, or am I conftown being dragged by scum?

I don’t believe your strong townread on hebi, your reluctance makes no sense when you look at your ISO (what I mean about this is that you have no real strong stances in almost the entire game). But on the other hand, I don’t see why scum!Firebringer comes to the thread, ignores what is being said about hebi, blindly defends her and leave.

I’m not convinced on you being scum with hebi, but if you’re actually uninformed about hebi’s alignment, you’ve clearly not being paying enough attention if you have a hard stance on her being town.

In other words, town shouldn’t be having “a hard time seeing hebi as scum by play”. You could see her as town because of scumreading the people who have and are actively pushing her, but at this point town should at least be skeptical about her.

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How does the world… looks like** I think it’s better written but what do I know

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And not been paying** sorry too early in the morning and I usually check a translator when in doubt but I’m phone posting dealing with routine

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And not been paying** sorry too early in the morning and I usually check a translator when in doubt but I’m phone posting dealing with routine

translator? What language you speak?

Spanish, I'm chilean

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Are you an alt of someone? I like the profile pic

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MB, we need to know what night actions Kawaii submitted

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MB, we need to know what night actions Kawaii submitted

only 1 action
jail on enchant

Every night? We need every night actions

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Ok. Enchant claimed that they redirected Grandpa today, so if Kawaii didn't stop them, then either one of them is lying

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So it's either Enchant and hebi are both scum, or Grandpa is scum

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UNVOTE: hebichan

I'm inclined to believe that both Enchant and hebi are scum here, but I want to parse this through with the rest of the playerlist (mainly GIF and Klick).

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Nah fuck that

VOTE: hebichan

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From the looks of it poisoner probably got 2 stamina requirements
so even if we miss the poisoner there'd be no poison the next day.

but hey if we get poisoner then you got this 100% town win rate doge right here

I actually started to believe that the optimal play here is to NOT eliminate the poisoner to see what you flip. If you're scum, the poisoner is confirmed 3p. If you're town, the most logical thing to believe is that the poisoner has some sort of restriction to poison because why the fuck does the poisoner targets furtive and Kawaii

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UNVOTE: hebichan

I'm inclined to believe that both Enchant and hebi are scum here, but I want to parse this through with the rest of the playerlist (mainly GIF and Klick).

I don't have any context on how enchant claimed happened
why would you trust grandpamo over him?

It's more about firmly believing that hebi is scum other than trusting one or the other

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i forgot that if 3p is poisoner then they dont know the alignment

That's what's making more sense right now, yes. That, or scum!poisoner has some kind of restriction, like being next to the player in the playerlist, which would mean you're the poisoner based on positioning.

But then again, if you're the scum!poisoner, why did Enchant's redirection ended in you killing FL and Kawaii being poisoned?

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But then again, if you're the scum!poisoner, why did Enchant's redirection ended in you killing FL and Kawaii being poisoned?

that means you believe there is multitasking ability within mafia faction, im asking mod for clarification .

if mod says not, then that should clear shit up. u either believe im scum poisoner and enchant is lying (this would make them more liekly to be 3rd party) or u believe im town and enchant is lying (this would make enchant scum)

That's a rethoric question saying the same thing you are. You can't be the poisoner and Enchant telling the truth at the same time. It's either one of those, or none.

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If enchant is saying the truth then granpamo cant be poisoner
Enchant's redirects all actions

Enchant claimed that they redirected Grandpa to Flavor, how does Kawaii end being poisoned. Unless Enchant can redirect only ONE action which makes no sense?

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like being next to the player in the playerlist, which would mean you're the poisoner based on positioning.

pls dont make a read like that haha. im pretty sure that would be bastard mechanics or some type of unknown unfair mech that is very unlikely to occur

Read Empathice's role

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Yes, so it makes no sense for Grandpa to be the poisoner, that's what I'm saying

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Fuck me

If enchant is saying the truth then granpamo cant be poisoner

I read 'can', not 'can't'.
We're all saying the same, sorry

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like being next to the player in the playerlist, which would mean you're the poisoner based on positioning.

pls dont make a read like that haha. im pretty sure that would be bastard mechanics or some type of unknown unfair mech that is very unlikely to occur

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just noticed that grandpamo is actually in the middle of me and furtive lol

Yeah that's what I'm saying, trying to understand the poisoner's target is a pain in the ass.

So what, did scum!Kawaii blocked town!Enchant and 3p!Grandpa poisoned Kawaii? Sure, maybe, I don't care. It would mean that the correct elimination is hebi. We can deal with Enchant's alignment tomorrow after both hebi and Kawaii are flipped.

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If Kawaii is scum, the only way the scumteam wins is pushing the 3p!poisoner.
If Kawaii is town (and the poisoner is scum), then they can win by eliminating town.

It feels like we're more in the first scenario given how this day has gone through.

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I don't know, and I don't care. Today we eliminate hebi, who's not the poisoner

p-edit the poisoner clearly has a stamina restriction

p-edit I'm saying that I don't have to solve you because you're a dead man walking

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So you're saying that its better to allow someone who is most likely town

You're not most likely town, not even close

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why is hebi not poisoner?

hebi's claim is 99% confirmed

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Hit me pinkball cmon

If you're scum, it's obvious that the rethoric that the scumteam will push is the lack of existence of a 3p and that "it makes no sense" and "ridiculous" which is exactly what both you and Enchant are doing. Enchant, who contradicts Grandpa's claim, who is 1v1ing hebi, who from my perspective is obvscum.

It's not hard to follow!

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I tracked Klick who activated their Vengeful that night so I saw them targeting everyone in the playerlist except Fire and Grandpa
hebi claimed isolating Fire, Grandpa and herself

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isolator

Who brought this term right now? Were did you get this?

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Are you joking? I'm saying I'm NOT worried about the 3p if there is one

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shouldn't it be the opposite?
mafia should be afraid of 3p

Read

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If Kawaii is scum, the only way the scumteam wins is pushing the 3p!poisoner.

If you're scum, it's obvious that the rethoric that the scumteam will push is the lack of existence of a 3p and that "it makes no sense" and "ridiculous" which is exactly what both you and Enchant are doing

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12 town + 4 scum + 1 SK style 3p

That's were I'm at

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If Kawaii is scum, the only way the scumteam wins is pushing the 3p!poisoner.

If you're scum, it's obvious that the rethoric that the scumteam will push is the lack of existence of a 3p and that "it makes no sense" and "ridiculous" which is exactly what both you and Enchant are doing

we should just ignore the 3p or poisoner and hunt mafia then
poisoner cant really poison tomorrow so if the case is good I would vote them even if they're confirmed not poisoner

YES, that's my exact point. And even if you're town, your flip gives us good quality information to understand where we're at

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12 town + 4 scum + 1 SK style 3p

That's were I'm at

doubt it
but if thats the case game's over for town if i die

Not if we get scum today. We would be at a 4v3v1 right now. Tomorrow would be 2v2v1 or 3v2 depending on who the mafia shoots. Even at 2v2v1, we eliminate scum again, either scum shoots town or 3p, so it would end in a 1v1v1 or a 2v1. The 1v1v1 would be bad, pseudo kingmaker situation I think?

But I'm digressing. If you're town, then we're probably 5v3 with no 3p right now.

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Could it be 3 scum + 1 3p? Sure, but the scumteam would have to be really packed to make the game fair. hebi's role still making a lot of sense in that matter, and we really can't know what Enchant's role is so yeah, any kind of theory ends with both of them being probably scum.

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That's actually a very cool theory

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That the poisoner actually has been targeting every night but has only gotten two demons, that could explain the weird targets they have picked

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@Ali whenever you get here, this is your top priority:

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I thought that too Ali, which would mean the poisoner is in fact a 3p

Vote hebi? Two scums for the price of one?

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Am I THAT hard to understand?

I understood fwiw

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No, it means that there’s a chance tha it’s poisoner and eliminating the poisoner is bad play in case Kawaii is scum

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This is the world we are living in, we should be looking to eliminate, in this order:
Scum!poisoner > scum > 3p!poisoner > town

If the poisoner is scum, then Kawaii is town, so eliminating them it’s the best alternative. Second best alternative is eliminating other scum.

If, however, the poisoner is a 3p, Kawaii is probably scum, and it’s better to eliminate other scum. For the scumteam, it would be too priority to eliminate the3p to save Kawaii.

So as you can see, sure, if you’re right and the poisoner is scum, it would be nice to eliminate them, but it’s not a life or death decision. If you’re wrong, eliminating the poisoner is pro scum and it IS a life or death decision

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I feel like they quickly decided to skim wolf PT before posting in thread, I don't know how they would have known that I caught drew otherwise

I don't have to read 100+ pages to know
I literally just have to iso the only flipped mafia.
I'm asking if everyone is convinced that you have caught drew cause I have zero context.

Idk if you really think I'm mafia for this or you're just making up reasons because you think the slot is mafia before I subbed

You using the term isolation seemed like TMI though

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I still don't know why everyone thinks hebi is scum
no one would tell me

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you don't believe that klick caught drew?

im trying to seperate myself from claims and mechanics as much as possible.
short answer, i can see it as fake.

Too late for this pal, I already threw Klick to the town bin, you could've helped me on D4 or earlier this day and another story would be told

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Tell me when you've finished! I've been reading you and I don't want to interrupt your thought process

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Nah, Enchant is probtown

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I got what I wanted already, I was skeptical yesterday and almost jumped too early, but Mislim Bait solved the game for me

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hebi's today's elimination

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Doesn't matter, we can't eliminate two players at the same time. Today hebi, tomorrow I can explain

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Maybe I should be less cryptic now...

The most likely scenario is that Kawaii blocked Enchant and the 1v1 between you and Enchant that Mislim is pushing has no scum inside.
Mislim spewed scum on both hebi and FireBringer.

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hebichan is actively ignoring this game, can we just eliminate her and move on instead of making the mod work on a replacement?

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Enchant, you do realize that, if I'm right and both hebi and Kawaii are scum and that the poisoner is 3p, the scumteam will NEVER buss today? And if we're at a 4v3v1 or a 5v2v1, the only way that we get an elimination is by every town member voting?

Who are you townreading? Because at some point we will have to compromise to a common elimination even if you don't entirely like it.

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Also yes i acknowlidge that. So without my vote you not going anywhere good anyway.

Yes, exactly

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Don't you think that, if you were right and there's no 3p but 2 to 3 scum alive, there wouldn't be so much resistance to hebi's elimination? I get that you think that Grandpa is scum. Do you think I'm scum too? And that only town is resisting hebi's elimination?

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No you are not. You know you targeted Grandpa, you don't know if that went through because you don't know what the scumteam did last night. You can't know if you were blocked or not

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I think hebi is scum and should be eliminated

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I think Klick and GIF will eventually vote for hebi so it's only one more, and it has to be between Fire and Enchant

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There's no other alternative that doesn't involve the scumteam getting better odds of winning

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That's good to know! We just have to wait for GiF's vla to end then

p-edit I wouldn't ask you to go against yourself, don't worry

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Maybe! I don't think that's the case tho, Enchant wouldn't be pushing you if that were the case

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he isnt pushing me tho thats the thing.

He's voting you and saying you're the optimal elimination

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He claims he has a soft guilty on you, why would he build a case if he has mech reasons to believe he's right

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I think Enchant has been pretty consistent. I don't think that's indicative

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No yeah, I understand your point of view. What I'm saying is that I don't think that Enchant's play during this day indicates that he's a 3p.

p-edit consistent during this particular day, not the entire game

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why cant pink or grand understand my posts?

Oh I understand your posts, I understand the progression you made, and you missed these:

if pink is town then its likely that fire is poisoner based on the claims and targets so far

grandpa elim looking better tbh
if hebi is town then I'm fairly sure their mafia

the guilty against hebi is just very pinpoint like klick visiting everyone except her 2 out of her 3 claimed targets.

If not for that I wouldve resolve enchant vs grand first

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grandpa elim looking better tbh

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To me that looks like you're inclined to vote grandpa instead of hebi, or am I misunderstanding?

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It does look better but mechanically hebi have to be resolved first
like I said in the post you quoted

Ohhh I thought your progression was calling hebi scum and then saying that we should probably look into grandpa v enchant instead

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Yayyyyy

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I'm an executioner I win

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ty ty

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GiF on me tonight, but in case I die, I think Grandpa is the poisoner

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FB/Enchant last scum if the scumteam is 3, Kawaii is scum too if the scumteam is 4

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I'm not a executioner

Oh and Ali if you're scum just wanted to say you that I gave up against you, I still think you're scum but I realized I'm never getting you eliminated with this playerlist, so gg good job fooling FL

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I really wanna know what the entire game setup looks like and what went on every night

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Lol

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If you're that smart just redirect who you think is going to make the scumkill then

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And no scumkill last night?

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Nothin. Squat.

What did you expect if you claimed it on D1 lol

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Nothin. Squat.

What did you expect if you claimed it on D1 lol

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Oh wow doublepost

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Well I'm town and didn't believe you for what it's worth

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I watched like 10 episodes and it looked great but I flaked and never resumed it, I don't have the habit of watching anime so I never actively say "oh right I should watch this"

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So many coincidences happened for that to happen
It was much easier to say that you lied

>You picking 2 scums
>Pink tracking Klick
>Klick choosing to mark the same night
>Klick breaking priority orders

Yup, this is what fucked town tbh. That coincidence pointed out that hebi and FL were lying instead of Ali’s role working in two players that were claiming they couldn’t get targeted

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Not only this dude got obsessed with hebichan death, he also faked clear.

GiF was obvtown, he didn’t need to be cleared

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Pink Ball is so good
Just needs to trust himself more

Impossible to do with so much weird mechanics involved!

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So for the sake of it, we can leave the theory that I caught the three remaining scum via a track result behind because it’s pretty much insane

btw I consider this the post of the game.

Fuck my life

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I still find you faking a clear to be the most funniest shit

I had good reads and I knew I had them, but the FL/hebi thing fucked me entirely

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I’ll have more time to give my final thoughts later, but for now, two things:

hebi, you played well. You actually targeted two out of three scum with your role, which in any other circumstances, would have been great for the town. My only problem with how you played and that could be something you could try to work on it is that as soon as I said you were lying, you saw me as an enemy and not as an antagonist. I was pushing Klick at that moment, not you, but you went all in with the “fuck you I’m not lying” and made it about you instead of letting me push Klick. That, from my point of view (in which I believe both of you are lying) validated even more my point that both of you were scum. We could’ve worked it out together, or maybe just ignore me, we eliminate Ali and you get cleared after we see Ali’s role. But your reaction makes it impossible to work with you, and I tried to!

Grandpa, same for you, that over reaction was never coming from desperate town, it looked like overly excited scum who was close to winning and suddenly the tide turned around. That being said, I think you played really good.

Ali, did you actually ask the mod if activating a vengeful would target everyone?

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I still find you faking a clear to be the most funniest shit

I had good reads and I knew I had them, but the FL/hebi thing fucked me entirely

Alisae claimed something. you claimed your result and then they were like ooh apparently I target everyone and then you all were like yeah they confirmed town.

Instead of going after hebi (specially after FL flipped and you know he was telling the truth and was still targeted even with his nexus skill) you should have gone after klickwork

klickwork flip would resolve the game entirely

I never confirmed them as town, I scumread them the entire time, but I thought they (hebi and Ali) were both scum and I wasn’t going to get an Ali elimination with this town.

The FL thing I said it during D4 I believe, and I insist, I wanted Ali since the end of D2, but I had no help whatsoever

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Ali, did you actually ask the mod if activating a vengeful would target everyone?

no

Isn’t lying about mod communication prohibited?

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“the mod confirmed me that my vengeful targets everyone”

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Sorry I was quoting that to say what I was talking about

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Ali, did you actually ask the mod if activating a vengeful would target everyone?

no

Isn’t lying about mod communication prohibited?

paraphrasing me with any of my responses, showing time stamps, etc are prohibited. but in general, claiming they asked something from the mod about their role is absolutely fine true or lie

I thought that explicitly saying that the mod told you something was prohibited because it makes it look like it’s official information.

I believed what Ali said and that’s the moment I stopped pushing

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That’s on me for not understanding the rules concerning mod communication I guess

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Ali the Drew move was great by the way

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Like, I’m really happy that the scumteam was the one that I actually wanted to be and not the one that we ended pushing for

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You got FL on your side and that’s all you needed to survive

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From hebi’s point of view it makes no sense that something could target her targets