BooneyToonz Discussion

[Flavor Leaf]

booneytoonz w/ nahdia civ mafia mechanics when

I don’t think I’m talented enough Mech wise to do that

[Alisae]

sadge

[Boonskiies]

April 2023

Interdimensional Traveler, Buccaneer, Swashbuckler

added to the Boon Bank.

Suicide Bomber

has been taken out of the Boon Bank.

Renegade, Superstar, Symbiotic, Enchantress, StickyFruit Vendor, Magical Fairy

roles added to the Role Book.

Hunter/Hunted

and

Light/Dark Fairy

Third Party Minigames added to the Role Book.

Inverted

Modifier added to the Role Book.

Added the Role Glossary for roles that are undefined elsewhere.

[Flavor Leaf]

BooneyToonz XVI: Boons Ahoy is in Sign-Ups

viewtopic.php?t=90817

[TemporalLich]

I'd recommend calling the Inverted modifier the Guiding modifier, to avoid confusion with the Inverse reliability.

[TemporalLich]

Anyway, some ideas for new roles:

Security Guard, Visionary, Shield, Reporter, and Inspector are new Normal roles.

Thaumaturge: Each night, may learn if a player is exactly one of {Vanilla, Town-aligned} or not. Basically a Neapolitian who thinks non-town power roles are VTs. (note that I'd consider a Light Fairy with no additional roles vanilla, as their visiting ability is a factional ability)

Mediator: Targets two players to inform them that they may not target each other the next Night. Mediator outright prohibits attempts to target, so Inverted will not work.

idk if these have the booneytoonz spirit or not, but I just want to say that Thaumaturge and Mediator are roles I thought up.

[Flavor Leaf]

I like that Mediator role for sure.

and I could see many uses for Shield that could lead to some fun instances.

I might take those creations of yours and put in the Boon Bank.

[TemporalLich]

I like that Mediator role for sure.

and I could see many uses for Shield that could lead to some fun instances.

I might take those creations of yours and put in the Boon Bank.

alrighty

Mediator seems like an interesting and flavorful role idea tbh

Bulwark may also be of interest to you, it is to Doctor as Shield is to Bodyguard.

[Jingle]

Welcome back boon!

[Flavor Leaf]

Welcome back boon!

Thanks! Been a while for sure. Having a good time being back, though. I successfully GIF'd my way through an entire day phase in my first game back

[Boonskiies]

Note to self:

viewtopic.php?p=11466730#p11466730 - Will be considered sort of like a Version 1 of BooneyToonz, where in the future, I could take the guidelines from this game, and do a game with that set of rules specifically.


I will be adding some more Boon Bank roles after my game ends, and tidying some things up to get Version 2 running. In time, and I mean like multiple years, a V3 will likely come out as well.

[TemporalLich]

some potential Boon Bank roles?:

Role Name:

Coach

Abilities: Each night, you may target a player. That player is informed that they may choose to act the next night as if they had no modifiers.
Why should this be added to the Boon Bank instead of take a Variant spot?: A Coach feels like an interesting role for more complex setups, as it effectively is a "protection from modifiers" role and allows X-Shot and Night Specific roles to effectively act an extra time. Note that Bulletproof, Ascetic, Macho, Enabler, Informed, and Neighbor should be considered passive roles and not modifiers, as none of those change how abilities work but are instead abilities in and of themselves.

Role Name:

Divine Protector

Abilities: Each night, you may render a player immune to actions from non-Town-aligned players.
Why should this be added to the Boon Bank instead of take a Variant spot?: An extremely powerful protective role that will protect a player from any action from scum that isn't Unstoppable or Strong-Willed. Like a rolestopper but better in every way.

[TemporalLich]

How interesting of a role is

Earl

(Anyone who learns your role will know that you are aligned with the

Town

.)?

It is pretty much a Named Townie, except it is ContraBoon'd for any alignment other than Town (as a non-Town Earl would constitute a moderator lie).

[Flavor Leaf]

All good roles.

I do really like the idea of Earl and can see it being used in certain setups right off the bat.

[TemporalLich]

yeah... Earl exists to be the town-specific Named Townie, but I just thought of the ability text that would make that clear today.

If a Role Watcher targets someone that an Earl targeted (this would require Earl to be on a power role, e.g. Town Earl Doctor), they'd know someone aligned with the Town targeted their target, for example.

[TemporalLich]

let me know if the wiki page for BooneyToonz Game is accurate, especially want to know if the BooneyToonz Role Glossary is accurate.

Not sure if the new Bunyip heals like a Normal Doctor (protects from a single kill that night) or gives a layer of Bulletproof (protects from a single kill)... assuming Normal Doctor as the Bunyip used to protect from kills outright (imo, full protection should be a mutation for Doctor and Bunyip).

Also, let me know if there should be wiki pages for Boon Bank roles.

Also also, is the mutation for Interdimensional Traveler intended to be built-in Loud or Announcing? The latter modifier would let players know that an Interdimensional Traveler targeted them.

[Jingle]

How interesting of a role is

Earl

(Anyone who learns your role will know that you are aligned with the

Town

.)?

It is pretty much a Named Townie, except it is ContraBoon'd for any alignment other than Town (as a non-Town Earl would constitute a moderator lie).

If you just let it be knows your alignment it doesn't have to be contraboond and adds a slight level of setup building utility.

A Mafia Earl Doctor would become a gunsmith inno rolecop guilty, instead of being likely innod by a rolecop for example.

[Flavor Leaf]

let me know if the wiki page for BooneyToonz Game is accurate, especially want to know if the BooneyToonz Role Glossary is accurate.

Not sure if the new Bunyip heals like a Normal Doctor (protects from a single kill that night) or gives a layer of Bulletproof (protects from a single kill)... assuming Normal Doctor as the Bunyip used to protect from kills outright (imo, full protection should be a mutation for Doctor and Bunyip).

Also, let me know if there should be wiki pages for Boon Bank roles.

Also also, is the mutation for Interdimensional Traveler intended to be built-in Loud or Announcing? The latter modifier would let players know that an Interdimensional Traveler targeted them.

yeah, Mutated Doctor could allow for full protection. Otherwise Bunyip is single too.

Let's say IDT is not built in loud, because then you could always just have a Loud IDT with the modifier.

Whenever I decide to do my next BooneyToonz, I'll make Mutations much clearer.

[Flavor Leaf]

How interesting of a role is

Earl

(Anyone who learns your role will know that you are aligned with the

Town

.)?

It is pretty much a Named Townie, except it is ContraBoon'd for any alignment other than Town (as a non-Town Earl would constitute a moderator lie).

If you just let it be knows your alignment it doesn't have to be contraboond and adds a slight level of setup building utility.

A Mafia Earl Doctor would become a gunsmith inno rolecop guilty, instead of being likely innod by a rolecop for example.

This works very well^

happy scum day, Jingle!

[TemporalLich]

actually yeah, Jingle's idea of Earl being "Anyone who learns your role will also learn your alignment." makes Earl slightly more than just a Named Townie and makes for some interesting setup ideas. For example, someone rolecopping a Mafia Earl Doctor would actually get results of Mafia Earl Doctor instead of just Earl Doctor.

It also would allow for modified versions of Earl to exist, such as Activated Earl, 1-shot Earl, and Night-Specific Earl.

[TemporalLich]

another role that might be worth considering for BooneyToonz:

Supervisor

A Supervisor will learn if a player has chosen not to act even though they were able to act that night. Having access to factional abilities count as being able to act that night (unless the Supervisor is Personal). Having abilities that can't be used that night due to modifiers don't count as being able to act that night.

Possible ability text: "Each night, you may learn if a player chose not to act when they could have acted that night or not."

A different variant of Supervisor would check if someone has an active ability but did not attempt to act that night. This would mean that having abilities that can't be used that night due to modifiers do count as having active abilities. It also is easier to resolve than the first variant, but is somewhat weaker due to X-shot and Night Specific roles effectively acting as Millers to this variant of Supervisor.

Possible ability text for different variant: "Each night, you may learn if a player has active abilities but didn't attempt to act or not."

[Bingle]

actually yeah, Jingle's idea of Earl being "Anyone who learns your role will also learn your alignment." makes Earl slightly more than just a Named Townie and makes for some interesting setup ideas. For example, someone rolecopping a Mafia Earl Doctor would actually get results of Mafia Earl Doctor instead of just Earl Doctor.

It also would allow for modified versions of Earl to exist, such as Activated Earl, 1-shot Earl, and Night-Specific Earl.

I’m only earl when I want to be.

Also, activated earl informed mafia traitor who knows mafia have a rolecop.

[Bingle]

Also, lol at Personal Supervisor.

[TemporalLich]

would having

Informed

info appearing in the flip be a Mutation or a Variant?

I'd want to have more of an idea of what separates a Mutation from a Variant.

[TemporalLich]

I have updated the BooneyToonz Game wiki page to reflect the new changes.

I've also created wiki pages for the Boon Bank roles, the MUTATED pseudo role modifier, and the former Boon Bank role known as the Cleric.