TM 2023 | Super Mario Bros Mafia | Game Over!

[Fate]

VOTE: HPE

If nothing else a Hpe scum flip would be very satisfying to see and validate my guy instinct hasn't dulled

[wgeurts]

Again, I'll kill anyone not town

Null reads are worthy for death

What is your read on HPE, and what do you make of what they just said. I'm going to skip my usual wall to first write up comprehensively why this slot needs to go, and then explain my other reads after.

[wgeurts]

oh you beat me to it, this is why I should read the preview

[HighPrincessErinys]

{CSF}
{Radical Rat,

Petapan

, Jingle}
{Adorable, Fate}
{Cerb}
{Porkens}
{HPE}

Page 13 rn, these are my current reads. Will be giving in-depth thoughts once done.

This one would ask what you think about their peta read

since it's also opposite yours

but you're going to give your full thoughts in a bit anywho.

Bullshit, you are such a liar

You literally just said your read is "opposite" to mine. My read on Peta has been town the entire game. You scum read me when it was convenient, then started walking it back by saying my recent posting looked town, just to go back when it was convenient. This is all you have done with all your reads the entire damn game, and now you're outright lying.

VOTE: HPE
VOTE: HPE
VOTE: HPE

..."Their" was referring to Jingle who you were talking about in the quote of the post you quoted. This one never calls itself like that.

[HighPrincessErinys]

This one thinks it understands why you misconstrued me now because you didn't even understand what was being said.

[wgeurts]

I really don't like this, but I still strongly believe you're scum despite what would otherwise be an instant death-tunnel slip. The pronoun usage is ambiguous but what you say is plausible. I am still convince you are scum though, your positioning has been off all game. Going to write that case now.

[Jingle]

also whats not clear about what i said

do I need to find the image...



was goin a lot like that

Hey, pictures of scummers are supposed to go in FWAN.

Also, ego posting is so named because the function 'Your Posts' represents is known as an Ego Search. Just a CS jargon thing.

[Jingle]

more like tis been simmering since peta's been not active and it would be VERY INTERESTING to see wgeurts flip, cuz if theyre scum Ill take peta as conftown

Why? I've thought they were a pretty strong pairing option since basically the beginning of the game.

[HighPrincessErinys]

The pronoun usage is ambiguous but what you say is plausible.

It's not "ambiguous" and "plausible" it's literally how this one talks.

[Jingle]

Nevermind I need whatever your whole team is taking.

I'll trade you sleep deprivation and excedrin migraine for the szechuan beef in a heartbeat, but you get to pay shipping.

[Fate]

goddamnt

im tired of switching my vote

[Porkens]

What’s the count?

[wgeurts]

The pronoun usage is ambiguous but what you say is plausible.

It's not "ambiguous" and "plausible" it's literally how this one talks.

It is, but their purely linguisticly could also refer to your own. I just isolated you in all your post games to verify. The closest you would get is the bottom quote and even that remains ambiguous when related to the post you made. I pulled the trigger too quickly there, but as I said, I thought you were scum before that and still do.

HPE what is your read on Meg?

Feels towny rn but needs an ISO reread of their own. Probably going to do that and then disappear for my previously mentioned whimsical activities.

[Jingle]

Votecount 1.5

wgeurts (3) - Porkens, HighPrincessErinys
Fate (2) - Adorable, Cat Scratch Fever
HighPrincessErinys (1) - wgeurts, Fate,
Petapan (1) - Jingle, Radical Rat
Cat Scratch Fever (1) -

Not voting (2) - Cerberus v666, petapan

(expired on 2023-04-26 11:46:00) remain until day end

Jingle is V/LA through Thursday April 20.

With 10 players alive, it takes 6 to reach a majority.

Updated VC. The sudden peta scumread would be rr, afaict.

[Fate]

That double vote would've done wonders

[Jingle]

dunn also thought one of your posts was scummy (19). he actually said this before i voted you but i wasn't reading the chat

the expressed reasoning was that it feels like he knows the answer but wants to appear solvey

This sequence felt like so much bullshit. Dunn knows me decently and would further know that my mechshit is NAI, and literally rephrasing someone else's question to preempt a second question being potentially necessary doesn't even surface level "appear solvey". It appears like complete nothingburger.

jingle do you often make reads lists on page 4 of games

Mostly a sign that I'm bored with the pace of the game. I can't say I've played enough mafia since coming out of retirement to say I often do anything, and preretirement pinning down my meta based on specific actions was an exercise in futility.

it's, like, hum

it struck me as possibly trying too hard too soon/stretching to make conclusions where most of the content so far was thin - although i have slight vibes etc i haven't felt like committing things to written words yet

but i think being bored is at least plausible i guess - i certainly want more but i'm usually at least content to let games run at their own pace

I don't really think this was intended to go somewhere. Like... What did peta expect here? Where is the scum motivation in 'committing to written words' when there's not a lot to go on?

Because we think wogurts has a strong potential to be scum aorn. Ask a silly question...

ok, why?

I think Cerb's posts have been lengthy and wordy but don't have much meat to them & feel vaguely pocket-y of wgeurts

how much meat would you expect based on when in the game they were posted?

There's something delicious about questioning someone for having a read without meat that is that the person doesn't have much meat to their read, especially in the context of peta having just questioned why I posted a readslist that was too soon to have much meat behind it.

I’m asking more philosophically, not directly at you. Do people in general ever have reliable reads on page 5? Haven’t even read the game btw

But I was asking you

i thought you were asking jingle tbh - i'm certainly not displaying a strong level of commitment to any read i make esp. since i've unvoted him but that's why i'm going through the process of talking to people


sometimes i get good hunches early, i caught titus on page 6 of datisi's cafe, but that's usually dependent on a degree of meta. but i'm fully aware not every early read is going to be a banger and am tempering my approach to be cautious here

this is especially true in team mafia because having 3 other people shouting in your ear very often creates an echo chamber effect that can lead you to confirmation bias your reads, and that can lead to people mutually tunneling each other and consuming the thread in a destructive fashion. i am trying to avoid this

Peta's team is shouting in peta's ear.

I had some towny feelings on Jingle and petapan earlier but am going to be more wary of those slots

this is the correct way to play around both of us

Subtle shade on my slot. "Don't trust Jingle, he's good at scum like I am." It's also the kind of nothingburger post that tries to show how reasonable and towny peta is. "No, your paranoia of me is fine." Like... Why does town feel the need to post this, compared to just going "Okay, CSF paranoia-ing on me, probably town indicative." And peta doesn't even say that it's town for CSF. It's just... empty.

cerb mostly comes across as null in everything he's posted so far. but maybe scummy given the lack of solid stances in all that posts. (i have an instinctive bias against quote stripes that has little basis in reality though)

Like all of the solid stances that peta has given. Cerbs should give some of those.

UNVOTE:

meh

if

HPE is town cerb's approach to it strikes me as being potentially scummy


i like CSF's posts and think this is probably her town game

LLD has been badgering me to get her reads into the thread, i think she's been wanting to micromanage everyone while waiting for hers to start lol

she thinks CSF, Adorable, and wgeurts are town, I agree with these as i've more or less expressed

she thought hpe was town at first but didn't like its fate vote

Really, this is the only content peta's offered, and I think in this particular game the whole lotta nothing coming from peta IS a scumtell.

[Jingle]

Koba wants me to share that wgeurts looks like flailing scum who doesn't have a place to pivot now that HPE doesn't look nearly as mislimmable as before.

[HighPrincessErinys]

Still pending an ISO analysis on peta of my own due to other things but this one thinks it's seeing where you're coming from, but it'll withhold an actual scumread for that ISO dive.

[wgeurts]

Koba wants me to share that wgeurts looks like flailing scum who doesn't have a place to pivot now that HPE doesn't look nearly as mislimmable as before.

If I'm scum the easier pivot would be Cerb, Porkens or Fate for pressure. Death tunnelling HPE is not the play, as particularly as they'd flip green in that scenario, I'm instantly getting hanged.

[HighPrincessErinys]

Koba wants me to share that wgeurts looks like flailing scum who doesn't have a place to pivot now that HPE doesn't look nearly as mislimmable as before.

If I'm scum the easier pivot would be Cerb, Porkens or Fate for pressure. Death tunnelling HPE is not the play, as particularly as they'd flip green in that scenario, I'm instantly getting hanged.

You mean the low hanging fruit?

[Jingle]

Still pending an ISO analysis on peta of my own due to other things but this one thinks it's seeing where you're coming from, but it'll withhold an actual scumread for that ISO dive.

I quoted about half of his ISO. The worst bits, in all fairness, but yeah...

[wgeurts]

Koba wants me to share that wgeurts looks like flailing scum who doesn't have a place to pivot now that HPE doesn't look nearly as mislimmable as before.

If I'm scum the easier pivot would be Cerb, Porkens or Fate for pressure. Death tunnelling HPE is not the play, as particularly as they'd flip green in that scenario, I'm instantly getting hanged.

You mean the low hanging fruit?

Convenient that all four "low-hanging fruit" are the people you've waffled on.

[wgeurts]

Bar, Cerb. I don't like your Fate/Porkens/my stance and I don't like how you're acting regarding Peta. I'm writing my post regardless as we speak

[Porkens]

Y’all need to stop name dropping me

[HighPrincessErinys]

Koba wants me to share that wgeurts looks like flailing scum who doesn't have a place to pivot now that HPE doesn't look nearly as mislimmable as before.

If I'm scum the easier pivot would be Cerb, Porkens or Fate for pressure. Death tunnelling HPE is not the play, as particularly as they'd flip green in that scenario, I'm instantly getting hanged.

You mean the low hanging fruit?

Convenient that all four "low-hanging fruit" are the people you've waffled on.

Because this one and all three of your choices are just people who haven't really been posting as much substantial content as others, which feels strange on Cerb but it's definitely just How They Are on Porkens and Fate. Going to wait for your read elaborations to cast further judgement but right now this feels like, again, trying to take down low-hanging fruit.