TM 2023 | Super Mario Bros Mafia | Game Over!

[Adorable]

Reading through Cerb's iso during the night phase I wasn't able to figure out who fits a team with Cerb. I removed Cerb/wgeurts team because there was an interaction between these two that did not look partnery and it looked like Cerb was pocketing a town wgeurts.

[petapan]

Also it should be a semi-safe assumption that there's not a strongman in play, or atleast not one that could pierce the Tanuki suit, because otherwise this one would be dead as a door nail in all likelihood.

By description it's a commuter, "causing all actions targeting to fail" would quite likely supersede a strongman

I think it's...not totally implausible scum could have a strongman but there's no guarantee of it

[Radical Rat]

Strongman usually still works in those situations

[Jingle]

Than HPE? HPE is very town. You are not.

VOTE: Powerup Wgeurts

[petapan]

HPE is town because 1. Cerb tried to shade it in a really slimy way when it was getting traction as a Day 1 wagon (i even called it out at the time, if only past me had more follow through but i always feel bad pushing someone coming back after a hiatus), and also because it doesn't claim backup even night tracker in that spot with a partner locked into a fakeclaim, that's probably a losing claim long term

gonna give it a skim against my memory to be sure but feel okay with that read

[Jingle]

By description it's a commuter, "causing all actions targeting to fail" would quite likely supersede a strongman

It's description is exactly a rolestop wording wise and rolestops are pierced by strongmen.

[petapan]

VOTE: Powerup Wgeurts

[Adorable]

Last day Jingle said RR should protect in Fate or me and I am surprised mafia killed Fate because of this and I would have thought mafia would kill elsewhere.

[petapan]

yeah i'm not gonna quote it because i don't want to edit the great wall of china but cerb's handling of HPE is just not scum/scum

[Radical Rat]

yeah i'm not gonna quote it because i don't want to edit the great wall of china but cerb's handling of HPE is just not scum/scum

And you think my handling of Cerb is?

[Radical Rat]

To be clear, I do not, at this moment, believe HPE to be scum.

[Radical Rat]

I just figured after using my action's failure to catch scum, while HPE bent over backwards to protect him and shade me... Like, I was preparing to fight off a fake guilty when I saw the flip

[Jingle]

Last day Jingle said RR should protect in Fate or me and I am surprised mafia killed Fate because of this and I would have thought mafia would kill elsewhere.

Also, two shot rolestop not being used on a claimed investigate because "I could do more later" is sus as fuck.

Does GIF want to tell me that

3 VT
Even Tracker
UB
2 Shot Rolestop
Loved BG

1 shot public rolestop
1 shot public doc

VS

3 Shot Roleblocker
Limited SMan

is reasonable?

[Jingle]

I fell asleep at the wheel yesterday, btw. We should have leashed HPE to Rat in the case of a scumflip.

[Radical Rat]

Actually it's not a public doc, at least not in the same way that the Tanuki was.

Whoever we elect actually becomes a one-shot Doc, but is not protected themselves.

[petapan]

yeah i'm not gonna quote it because i don't want to edit the great wall of china but cerb's handling of HPE is just not scum/scum

And you think my handling of Cerb is?

i hadn't stated a conclusion on you yet actually


but...yeah, plausibly? i just did a quick check on a reread, tell me what you believe makes you unaligned with cerb?

[petapan]

I just figured after using my action's failure to catch scum, while HPE bent over backwards to protect him and shade me... Like, I was preparing to fight off a fake guilty when I saw the flip

you were preparing for a fake guilty in a 8v2 at 6 alive?

[Jingle]

Point, but it's also not as weak as 1 shot doc on a specific player because it's guaranteed to be available on N3.

[Radical Rat]

I just figured after using my action's failure to catch scum, while HPE bent over backwards to protect him and shade me... Like, I was preparing to fight off a fake guilty when I saw the flip

you were preparing for a fake guilty in a 8v2 at 6 alive?

I mean, after I flip just blame it on the strongman, right?

[Adorable]

Last day Jingle said RR should protect in Fate or me and I am surprised mafia killed Fate because of this and I would have thought mafia would kill elsewhere.

Also, two shot rolestop not being used on a claimed investigate because "I could do more later" is sus as fuck.

Does GIF want to tell me that

3 VT
Even Tracker
UB
2 Shot Rolestop
Loved BG

1 shot public rolestop
1 shot public doc

VS

3 Shot Roleblocker
Limited SMan

is reasonable?

The way how RR came out like that today I can see it go either way. For RR to be town then it would mean Fate was killed by a strongman because I find this hard to believe mafia would kill Fate by a normal faction kill when you said last day for RR to protect either Fate or me.

Last time I checked from GIF he still thinks the second scum is a strongman. I'll ask and see what he thinks of the setup.

[HighPrincessErinys]

Posting this because this one is pretty sure that if it's followed scum can't actually do anything about it: Unless scum is in RR or Adorable this one should be guaranteed to live for the next two nights? Adorable protects me the first night, then RR stops on me the second. If scum kills RR the first, Adorable protects me the second, and if Adorable dies the first, RR's rolestop on the second probably prevents me from dying anyway. If neither dies or scum otherwise kill outside this pool, then that's a probably self-solving issue as the scumpool narrows down. Granted, 6 players means elim, NK, elim, NK over two days will be game-set-match, but if a no-elim or no-kill happens this one should make it to F3 with a tracking result that's

hopefully

game winning for us. This doesn't even account for the mushroom being in play which is also pretty good for us. In general this game is BASICALLY solved either way, it thinks?

Or there could be a strongman still around/other wacky effect after all/one of the protectives is scum and it dies anyway. Then uh, oopsies. Reasonably confident about things, though.

[Jingle]

How would that be a fake guilty? That would be you actually being tracked to a kill.

[HighPrincessErinys]

That was alot more rambly than this one was intending but it still thinks we have this in the bag.
VOTE: Powerup: wgeurts

[Radical Rat]

yeah i'm not gonna quote it because i don't want to edit the great wall of china but cerb's handling of HPE is just not scum/scum

And you think my handling of Cerb is?

i hadn't stated a conclusion on you yet actually


but...yeah, plausibly? i just did a quick check on a reread, tell me what you believe makes you unaligned with cerb?

It would have been completely unnecessary for scum!me to bus him yesterday. I could have very easily gone after Fate instead. He also spends the whole day sucking up to me instead of distancing from me.

[petapan]

I just figured after using my action's failure to catch scum, while HPE bent over backwards to protect him and shade me... Like, I was preparing to fight off a fake guilty when I saw the flip

you were preparing for a fake guilty in a 8v2 at 6 alive?

I mean, after I flip just blame it on the strongman, right?

oh, hm