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Post Post #1255 (isolation #0) » Thu May 11, 2023 2:46 am

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I‘m the Real Tracker


7 Town

2 Mafia


Roles are randomly assigned from the following list:

1 Roaming Doctor
2 Pretenders
1 Roleblocker
1 Tracker
2 Neighbors
1 Fruit Vendor
1 Ascetic

Pretenders will be given a role PM of any non-pretender roles instead of their actual roles, and will be able to submit actions and get fake results as such. However, their actions will not actually resolve. Pretenders will be flipped as Pretenders upon being eliminated or killed. Pretender who received a Neighbor role PM and solo Neighbor will receive their own Neighbor PT, but no one else will be in the PT. There can only be at most 1 mafia Pretender.


Balance made sense in my head but that was like 3:30 am in the morning. So I’d like a second opinion or two.
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Post Post #1257 (isolation #1) » Thu May 11, 2023 5:11 am

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Just role != alignment.
Pretender will not be told they they’re pretender.
Investigative result will be random. Pool is alive_players that’s not the user + no result + multitask visit, in which case I roll for another random alive player name that is not the user.
I’m thinking of giving scum multitasking if they’re only one left.
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Post Post #1258 (isolation #2) » Thu May 11, 2023 5:13 am

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Basically they will get legal results that a real tracker can get, but not an accurate one (unless they get lucky with the rolls)
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Post Post #1260 (isolation #3) » Sat May 13, 2023 2:25 am

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Real neighbors being able to confirm each other was an intended effect.

Loyal checker works for me if the setup is scumsided as is. I don’t mind a role that can only get guaranteed inno. Idk how I feel about hider though. I originally was gonna use commuter on that slot and then I thought that in the scenario of town commuter+roleblocker+doc would be a living hell for scum. That’s why I nerfed it to ascetic so they can be at least nightkill-able. Also hider in a micro feels kinda swingy.
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Post Post #1262 (isolation #4) » Mon May 15, 2023 12:38 pm

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1 Tracker
1 Loyal Checker
1 Doctor
1 Roleblocker
2 Pretenders
2 Seeking Neighbors
1 Inspector
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Post Post #1264 (isolation #5) » Thu May 18, 2023 1:44 am

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I‘m the Real Tracker


7 Town

2 Mafia


Roles are randomly assigned from the following list:

1 Doctor
2 Pretenders
1 Roleblocker
1 Tracker
2 Seeking Neighbors
1 Loyal Checker
1 Inspector

Pretenders will be given a role PM of any non-pretender roles instead of their actual roles, and will be able to submit actions. However, the results they get will be fake and their actions will not actually resolve. Pretenders will be flipped as Pretenders upon being eliminated or killed. There can only be at most 1 mafia Pretender.

Edited for clarification:
Investigative results for pretenders will be randomized, but will always get a legal result.
Mafia will gain multitasking upon being the only one left
Last edited by GuyInFreezer on Thu May 25, 2023 4:52 am, edited 1 time in total.
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Post Post #1268 (isolation #6) » Fri May 19, 2023 8:01 pm

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In post 1265, RH9 wrote: GIF, Seeking Neighbors start out by themselves, right?
And they have to find each other to gain the hood?
Yes. If you’re a pretender finding the neighbors won’t actually do anything though.
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Post Post #1270 (isolation #7) » Thu May 25, 2023 3:05 am

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Random.
Loyal checker will get either positive or negative
Investigator will get either positive, negative, or no result
Tracker one I posted it above but this
Pool is alive_players that’s not the user + no result + multitask visit, in which case I roll for another random alive player name that is not the user.
Basically randed between pool of all possible legal results. If it isn’t possible to get no result due to death of a roleblocker, then no result will no longer be randed since it is no longer a legal result.
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