Mini 2297 | Conception | Postgame

[Rautherdir]

Why did I do that my scum meta on this account is actually good aaaaaaa
But it's been two years and I had been playing more on my other account when I left.
It weird, my metas on my two accounts are drastically different. Anyways.

[Enchant]

im just jabbin' to jab back. If you talked to me in person, it would make more sense tone wise probs, most of my stuff is just playful verbal back and forths.

I rarely ever am actually harshing down on people.

I was sarcastic if anything. Imagine being mad at mafia. Of course i didn't put sunglasses emoji, which made it sound not sarcastic but hey, now you know.


But i didn't really give up (i just got bored because being conf while also being doomed is demotivating). Atleast i voted correctly for the end, which is most important.

[Alianna]

furtive calling my wagon disgusting was the highlight of this game.

- Abnegation (couldn't be bothered to log into my alt)

[furtiveglance]

furtive calling my wagon disgusting was the highlight of this game.

- Abnegation (couldn't be bothered to log into my alt)

Town really lost its way

[GuyInFreezer]

Wait until you see the benediction PT

[Feysal]

I suppose I need to make my question more explicit, because I do want to understand this. Even though it no longer matters.

@Narration:
What happened on night 3? How did Furtive survive our attempt to kill him?

[Enchant]

I suppose I need to make my question more explicit, because I do want to understand this. Even though it no longer matters.

@Narration:
What happened on night 3? How did Furtive survive our attempt to kill him?

I know this, benediction targeted furtive with action which redirects other actions.

So basically you killed IceDragon instead.

[Feysal]

I know this, Benediction targeted Furtive with action which redirects other actions.

Hugir claimed to have redirected ActionDan to Furtive. However, I don't think this should have had the effect it did.

This game used TAR, or Triplicate Action Resolution. During day 4 I read that article in detail, trying to figure out what the hell had happened, and found the following clause:

Targeting Clause - if a role has an effect that interferes with targeting, it cannot be affected by roles that interfere with targeting. This is to prevent headaches from both the players and the moderators.

Redirector and deflector are both roles that interfere with targeting, and according to this clause, they should not have interfered with each other.

This had some effects on the game beyond the obvious one of Furtive and Enchant surviving. My theory for what had happened was that Hugir had lied, and redirected me to myself instead of ActionDan. That could not have been deflected, so both the kill and investigation would have been redirected back to me. Those however could be deflected, and I thought ActionDan had deflected them to IceDragon. The one detail that did not add up was my flyer making it through, and when that appeared to have happened again the next day, I seriously considered the theory that I was secretly strong-willed, because nothing else seemed to make sense.

At the end of day 5 when I started talking about mechanics, I was trying to show that Hugir's claim of redirecting ActionDan could not have caused the conflict. I was hesitant to do it, because I thought Hugir had in fact redirected me, but it was my last option to expose them.

I think the end result was a better game, and I don't mean to complain, but I have to point out that this action resolution was according to my understanding incorrect.

[RH9]

I thought that Deflector interfered with actions.

[Narration]

I'll release all PTs now.

[IceDragon70]

I am a bit (very) late to post here but I just wanted to say: I love how our theories about the arsonist nightkill or factional roleblock were completely off, and it was just poison. I also feel sad that I accidentally flaked the game in D3 because I was calling to lim between Hugir and ActionDan, and I feel if I had been active I might've been able to prevent the Abnegation lim