Mini Normal 2300: THIS GAME HAS A VIG [game over]

[Malakittens]

Hello Malakittens, long time no see

VOTE: Malakittens

Hello my right hand man.

VOTE: venmar

VOTE: Malakittens

Patch...did you roll scum without me?

VOTE: bristep123

biggest number in name ⮕ dice have numbers ⮕ dice will favor the numbered one ⮕ more likely to be scum (mathematically)

hope you guys follow my logic

What???

VOTE: Malakittens

Patch...did you roll scum without me?

NOOO :SOB: I CHECKED MY PM AND I WAS VT AND I SWEAR I WAS SO MAD AHSDJASHAJ

Sketch.

Huh, I think this game has a vig.

VOTE: Black

Please don’t vig me again, Tia.

[Malakittens]

I WOULD HAVE FUCKED UP QUOTES

And I’m not even drunj

VOTE: VENMAR

[Malakittens]

Setup:

- This game has day talk for all private threads.
- This game will have 9 town-aligned players and 2 mafia-aligned players.
- At least one player's role in this game is some form of a Vigilante.
- This game follows Normal Game Guidelines and uses Normal Game Natural Action Resolution.

The only thing we know is there's a vig (and a VT since it's a normal), there could be whatever other roles.

Also, Invisibility looks better already, 23 is not just saying I'm town but showing a process of using my followup posts to sort me.

UNVOTE: Invisibility
VOTE: Malakittens

Biggest wagon is best wagon

Sick moves bro.

VOTE: MALA

The only thing we know is there's a vig (and a VT since it's a normal), there could be whatever other roles.

Ok thank you for clarifying this

Knowing this, patch's VT claim feels a lot worse

Why?

VOTE: Black

I sense an imbalance of genuineness between Black and Patchwork. Also 17 and 26 feel sorta like nothing posts. Like duh asking for clarification on things is normal but, is that it?

Something about this isn’t sitting right.
If you look at the sign up thread it looked like Patch and Black have some type of game hx. It looks like they are friends of some sort so them bickering on page 1 doesn’t really feel bothersome.

Now if they were to continue all game that would be a red flag imo, but right now, no.

However, you being super hung up on something like this early makes me feel like you are trying to make something out of a molehill into a hill.

VOTE: insibility

VOTE: Black

I sense an imbalance of genuineness between Black and Patchwork. Also 17 and 26 feel sorta like nothing posts. Like duh asking for clarification on things is normal but, is that it?

What are you expecting from me, realistically?
Do you want me to solve the game on page 1?

that would be helpful but I think that's not particularly feasible. But y'know take my vote as an open invitation to change my mind

Black’s sass is on point and I’m so here for it.

However the olive branch from invsibility feels odd. It’s almost like “I poked the wrong bear and I’m scared of backlash!”

im gonna cry i didnt mean to claim

The only thing we know is there's a vig (and a VT since it's a normal), there could be whatever other roles.

Ok thank you for clarifying this

Knowing this, patch's VT claim feels a lot worse

how

Feels weird, but I can’t exactly explain why.
It’s like a tone maybe. “I didn’t mean to claim”, but it’s like you knew you were claiming. Unless you aren’t “true” claiming.

Time shall tell.

black feels pretty towny tbh

Agree.

Invisibility’s analysis of Black’s genuineness feels odd and ironically not from a genuine place either.

Also evening! hope you’re all well.

I also agree with this. Already explained ^

44 posts so far. 4+4=8

Anyways, here is hoping to get run up quickly

OK LET ME GIVE YOU A HEAD START

VOTE: gera

just kidding,
If I didn’t actually have a solid scum read I’d continue, but in really want my vote on the blue bear.

VOTE: insibility

[Malakittens]

And I’m not even drunj

Are you sure you aren’t drunj?

I’m positive. I’m working as a medic right now.

the blue bear

it's a squirrel

If doesn’t look like a squirrel

[Malakittens]

26 doesn’t bother me.

Black has done that in probably all of the games I have played with her.

She did it when she was my right hand girl and I ended up having to claim her role in order to survive and then ended up dying bc I revealed my true role which was a dayvig

[Malakittens]

I don't think we know anything except the title of the thread is probably true

Also I don't want ANYONE to read my setup spec and go "I'm not a vig, Wolf, or VT!" ...that would just be incredibly stupid. Keep your information to yourself

I have always seen her say this.

[Malakittens]

Mine

[Malakittens]

If you look at the sign up thread it looked like Patch and Black have some type of game hx. It looks like they are friends of some sort so them bickering on page 1 doesn’t really feel bothersome.

Now if they were to continue all game that would be a red flag imo, but right now, no.

wait do you think I'm upset about like, 6? Are you misunderstanding which molehill I'm making a mountain of

I thought at first your comment re black started on page 1 then moved onto page 2.
I didn’t realize it was just page 2 by itself.

She did it when she was my right hand girl and I ended up having to claim her role in order to survive and then ended up dying bc I revealed my true role which was a dayvig

im sorry

what

We played death note theme. She was my right hand girl and she knew who I was, but if I were to die we had one game day to find the scum butt or town loses. It was needed for me to be hidden, but the game ran me up so I claimed her role thinking I’d survive and then scum CC’d me so I shot him.

wait mala why are you scumreading invisibility?? to me he's kinda null, are you just chainsaw defending black or smth

I just didn’t like the tone.
I mean I guess in a way you can say I’m also defending black from non sense.

[Malakittens]

This is scum mala trying to fling dirt anywhere until it sticks. This is not even remotely the town mala I have played with either.

What???

mala, can you link a recent town and scum game

Scum: viewtopic.php?t=90662
Town: viewtopic.php?t=90701
Town: viewtopic.php?t=90560

Bonus scum traitor: viewtopic.php?t=90280

btw mala is e-1 i think, let's not have a lolhammer

VOTE: malakittens

Don’t u know that won’t work on me?

This is scum mala trying to fling dirt anywhere until it sticks. This is not even remotely the town mala I have played with either.

the dirt seems to be flung at me specifically. I don't like NK15 hopping on the Mala wagon as they began facing heat and this explanation is bad

Nk prob wanted to see what I’d do under pressure. He masked it by actually giving a semi chorent response.
It’s a nice change from his naked votes without a reason.

Mala does read differently from the last game we played together - they were town then but it’s the only game I’ve played to conclusion in a long time. Not sure yet if they’re playing differently enough to convince me this is definitely Mala on the opposite side this time.

I’m more engaged this time.
I should have been like that last game, but I couldn’t get into it.
Had I probably would have gone for tchill sooner bc I did call that one scum read based on interactions.

[Malakittens]

Mala flinging dirt everywhere when it's just at me unless I'm forgetting something

oh no yeah that makes sense, it is just you

*throws dirt at patch*

wait i have a question, i'm not suggesting anything but i didn't have anywhere to ask it so i'm just doing it here i guess, but is there any advantage to massclaims in closed games? what do they do except outing prs?

Um
What?
No. How is that going to help town? This legit would only help scum.

Maybe masscoaim later but not d1

I’m going to bed, and it’s my daughter’s birthday tomorrow so I won’t be super active but I’ll be around.

Happy birthday!!!

Holy cow folks, 4 times I tried to post that! This game is moving fast.

Also wtf was that fast e-1. Let’s not end the day in the first 10 hours please.

Why not? Better than 10 days time....

So the only options are 10 hours in or 10 days time? Odd reply.

I clearly used the number 10 twice as repition, a standard technique when making points in any argument.

Finding my reply odd...like just get over yourself. Are you just trying hard to find something wrong with what I say for the sheer pointlessness of it, just so you can scum read me later.

Naughty point for you Bristep.

In fact VOTE: bristep

Are we going to troll this whole game or are we going to get srs ever??

[Malakittens]

Ugh.

I think I caught blue squirrel syndrome.

I’m starting to get a town lean.

UNVOTE: blue squirrel

[Malakittens]

Good vibes:

Malakitten
Gera
Greeting

Null vibes:

Greeting (kinda lean good)
Invisibility (kinda lean good)
Patchwork (kinda lean bad)

Bad vibes:

Umlaut
Black
Bristep

No way I should be awarded a good vibe.

Naughty point for you

PING

[Malakittens]

i think the blue squirrel could be town but dont quote me on that

Lol this is gonna become a nickname

[Malakittens]

I’m not really sure I understand the umlaut votes right now.

As for greeting it’s a bit early for me to give an opinion on how I feel about him.

[Malakittens]

T3 can you explain why I’m so further down on your list. I’m highly upset.

[Malakittens]

158 - this is how I feel about geraintm atm. I like that mala sees this too

we've not played together before. i'm a joy Day 1

Are you?
We played b4 together and I don’t remember it being this bad.

[Malakittens]

T3 can you explain why I’m so further down on your list. I’m highly upset.

I didn't like your Invisibility scumread and you haven't done anything towny

[Malakittens]

I mean tbh I was scumrrading blue squirrel early on, but not anymore

[Malakittens]

That’s me in a nutshell
Weird n vague

[Malakittens]

On page 17 I don’t think venmar is scum

[Malakittens]

VOTE: umlaut

Lowkey don’t vibe wi venmar scum

[Malakittens]

Oh e-1!

[Malakittens]

I’m going to PAGETOP

[Malakittens]

[Malakittens]

We aren’t linking
Blue squirrel

[Malakittens]

</3 venmar

Why Betray me like this.

[Malakittens]

I was trying to see in regards to T3 why he potentially got killed.

His two main scumreads were between {Greeting/Me} & had a vote on Vemar.

Ngl I could potentially see scum between {greeting/venmar}.

[Malakittens]

VOTE: venmar

[Malakittens]

I think the coinvent 180 flip on me feels odd. esp when venmar was "townreading" me all D1, but noticed when there is support for me is there to start pushing me

[Malakittens]

i'm not really understanding the gera town reads.
I'm not at all seeing the shining town there.
and if i recall correctly gera is very lurky as scum.

[Malakittens]

Why would I kill someone who was scum reading me?

You know damn right that I wouldn’t do that.

[Malakittens]

So patch if I’m up there on the town list why are you voting me

[Malakittens]

I think that's a good point mala. Normally you want to pressure a SR

And what was up with this? You voted your top SR on accident and the switched it to mala?

VOTE: Greeting

wait wrong person VOTE: Mala

GOTTA HAVE A SHARP MIND

[Malakittens]

I’d laugh if black and patch are actually the scum team

That chill comment bg patch is like

“Am I doing ok scum mentor”

[Malakittens]

VOTE: Invisibility

knock

The name is blue squirrel

[Malakittens]

Hello enchant

At least I don’t get scum vibes from you unlike last game.

That’s a start.

[Malakittens]

Hello enchant

At least I don’t get scum vibes from you unlike last game.

That’s a start.

No you were scum and I pinged you off one post.
I went with my gut and you flipped scum.
Wait i was town last game?

[Malakittens]

Oh that’s not the game I’m referring to.

I forgot about that game. I put it out of my mind bc of how annoyed I was at it.

Flash wagon venmar with me??

[Malakittens]

LOL

[Malakittens]

I had actually had a town vibe on patch. I felt like he was genuinely sorting d1 but since then the townread has faded. I’m not going to put him to e-1 bc I don’t really think patch is scummier than venmar.

Venmar was a counterwagon to Umulaut who flipped town. It’s just odd that venmar wagon faded as umulat grew. I’m part of the reason bc I didn’t agree with the venmar d1 votes and I wasn’t willing to let a town read her yeeeted d1 over someone who I didn’t have a huge read on

[Malakittens]

Ngl I think there was one scum on the umulat wagon and probably one scum off the wagon.

I’d be curious to see if that whole wagon on venmar was town driven bc I don’t really think so :/

[Malakittens]

I felt like he was genuinely sorting d1 but since then the townread has faded. I’m not going to put him to e-1 bc I don’t really think patch is scummier than venmar.

he?

My bad, they.

[Malakittens]

Gera should vote me if he thinks I'm scummy. Dude is sitting here not voting anyone nor contributing while shading and being defeatist. Like be useful, like voting me or something

We can flash wagon gera instead

[Malakittens]

I would have laughed at an image in my head of a squirrel being shamed out of a tree

[Malakittens]

I lol’d at venmar and the stinky

[Malakittens]

Enchant if I vote greeting I know you’re gonna hammer

[Malakittens]

Daykill: Venmar

i will love you big time if this is real

[Malakittens]

Ugh
I guess I’ll go greeting since no one wants venmar

[Malakittens]

Greeting can talk more about enchant?
I will admit I didn’t like NK, but I’m not really feeling scum!enchant

[Malakittens]

Fine.

VOTE: greeting

E-1

But gonna be a lim cuz I got a sheep

[Malakittens]

Both of your opening posts this day is scummy AF.

but good job on whoever killed patch
thats not someone i would have pegged for scum bc i was townreading up until he went a bit inactive

[Malakittens]

If i don't post will everyone forget i quickhammered Greeting i wonder

maybe

[Malakittens]

Both of your opening posts this day is scummy AF.

but good job on whoever killed patch
thats not someone i would have pegged for scum bc i was townreading up until he went a bit inactive

You coming out strong now your buddy is dead? Got to change tactic perhaps?

Totally, you got me. Now you should lim me.

No, I'm at work and we have our site insepction so we cant be on our phones so WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO you guys got my attention allll fucking day

[Malakittens]

that's a weird kill and nk that hammer was fucking horrible VOTE: NK

this post makes me think Enchant is not the scum

I agree w/ this

[Malakittens]

thats not why we are townreading you

patch looked like he was setting u up for a mislim thats kinda weird for a scum buddy to open like that without a guilty on you

[Malakittens]

VC 1.19

Umlaut

(6):

Greeting, Black

, Venmar,

patchwork

, Malakittens, Not Known 15

Venmar

(3): bristep123,

Umlaut, T3

Not Known 15

(1): Invisibility

Invisibility

(1): geraintm

Not Voting

(0):

With 11 alive, it takes 6 votes to accidentally disassemble a player. Day 1 ends in (expired on 2023-05-09 12:20:00).

Mod notes: brb killing Umlaut

ngl I think the last scum might be off the umlaut wagon. Which means {Bris/blue squirrel/gera}

I could see it being gera. Theres been a lot of posts by gera that I don't like. Gera kept saying that he "townread" both Greeting/Umlaut, but he never actually did anything that remotely could save them.

VOTE: gera

illexplain more in a bit

[Malakittens]

My attempt at somekind of a VCA:
Legend: Green is flipped town + me (duh), red are players that flipped scum

VC 1.14

Venmar

(5): bristep123,

Umlaut, T3

, Not Known 15, geraintm

Umlaut

(2):

Greeting, Black

Black

(1):

Venmar

Not Known 15

(1): Invisibility

Not Voting

(2):

patchwork

, Malakittens

With 11 alive, it takes 6 votes to accidentally disassemble a player. Day 1 ends in (expired on 2023-05-09 12:20:00).

Honestly, just based off of the analysis of my own wagon at its peak, it makes me think that scum should be in {Bris, Enchant, Gera} since I just can't see me being run up to E-1 with three other town (Me + 2 flipped town) voting elsewhere and Patch not voting. This soft clears Invis in my eyes and makes Mala more likely to be town to my begrudging admission, idk if both scum don't vote here.

i did it around the umluat at its peak and i'm at around the same other than blue squirrel and enchant
i could see maybe one of gera/bris
although im leaning heavily on gera rather than bris

[Malakittens]

I mean have we got nothing else to go on that everyone is relying on vca?

Invis I’ll save you some bother, I shot patch.

VOTE: Gera that defence would be stronger if you hadn’t made the exact same early “I am panicky if I’m scum” claim in another recent game where you were actually scum.

I like this

[Malakittens]

I mean have we got nothing else to go on that everyone is relying on vca?

Invis I’ll save you some bother, I shot patch.

VOTE: Gera that defence would be stronger if you hadn’t made the exact same early “I am panicky if I’m scum” claim in another recent game where you were actually scum.

Tbh I think Enchant is just scum based off of the hammers and their play. Gera and Enchant are both scum or town for how they play I think we just yeet the one making the bad hammers first

Ngl enchant hammering like this is NAI.

[Malakittens]

VLA til Friday - lots of tests

[Malakittens]

Gera my vote on you is simple.
You hardcore defended two players who flipped town, but you gave zero effort or even a post to try to counter them other than "its gonna be green". it felt like tmi
not to mention your meta is to be semi-lurky as scum which i feel like its been similar
as for the VC the scum is within {blue, bris, you} - bris claimed vig and he shot scum and theres no counter so i dont think thats a scum slot. then leaves me with blue v you and honestly i think blue is more likely 2 be town

[Malakittens]

Gera my vote on you is simple.
You hardcore defended two players who flipped town, but you gave zero effort or even a post to try to counter them other than "its gonna be green". it felt like tmi

i didnt hardcore defend them as town, i just said they would flip green. hardcore would have been making an effort to actualyl save them as you said i didnt - and i didn't.

if you are town, then i can understand you only have a few places you could possibly vote and i am one of them.

what are your plans for when i flip green.
i assume you are sorting out what the vig should do tonight (i am assuming they are going to die, but i wonder if scum is concenred that they need to go after other town power roles who are more likely to catch them?)

ngl i dont really think youre gonna flip green

i'm not a fan of telling the vig where to shoot. I have always disliked players trying to "leash" the vig. mainly because people have done it to me in the past and they would have been wrong if i shot there instead i went my own way.
i have only rolled vig maybe 3-4 times and i have never shot incorrectly.

[Malakittens]

lmafo
when when i was a traitor with one vig shot i still shot scum (aka you enchant) LOL'd

[Malakittens]

I don't care what gera flips, i just think we need to eradicate all three.

who is all "three"

[Malakittens]

oy vey

[Malakittens]

ugh

why is this game so stagnant

i just feel like the games gonna end within {gera/venmar/invis}

[Malakittens]

thats my order from scummiest to least scummiest

[Malakittens]

yep

its the right move

VOTE: no lim

[Malakittens]

IDK

I feel like we should discuss, but idk how much it will help scum.

[Malakittens]

I find issue.

You both townread patch.
You both voted each other.
Main difference is post count but who cares about that. Atleast mala looked inspired at start of game, but exams i guess.


Therefore i hate you both.

Wasn’t exams. My heart and blood weren’t on the same page </3

[Malakittens]

I don’t think I nesccafily townread patch
I did it and I didn’t, but he also wasn’t someone who I thought was flipping scum tbh.

[Malakittens]

IDK

I don't really know who is scum

my heart says Enchant is town; Venmar is scum

[Malakittens]

I'm really praying you are town, if you are scum gg & well played.

VOTE: Venmar

[Malakittens]

Ngl,

I think I have been p good at reading you in recent games. Even the game yoy replaced in and I had you pinged at scum off one post.

The only game that I lost credibility on was when I shot yoy as scum bc I was nervous you were like a town cop.

So my heart was telling me you are town whereas I didn’t exactly do what usually do in eOl that I comb through VCA.

Plus the stuff with patch didn’t make sense for you to be scum so

[Malakittens]

Damn Mala almost lost town the game but it turns out it was Mala all along?

wow

fake reaction is fake.

[Malakittens]

So stale.

Ngl enchant — make a decision.

I’d ask you what would you need to make your decision easier but I know you are usually very *random*.

[Malakittens]

Yep that’s why you were killed