Micro 1081: Burdened By Secrecy GAME OVER

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Micro 1081: Burdened By Secrecy GAME OVER

Post Post #0 (isolation #0) » Thu May 25, 2023 6:37 am

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Micro #1081
Playerlist:
Prods Indicated with *
Bold = Confirmed



Spoiler: The Replacements (Because I Can't Afford to Build Them Statues)

Spoiler: The Alts
Allison Hargreeves
Klaus Hargreeves
Five Hargreeves
Lila Pitts
Vanya Hargreeves

Spoiler: The Main Accounts
BBmolla
Flea the Magician
MUSHSHAGANA
patchwork
Political Clout

Spoiler: The Paragons
LadyLambdadelta
Korina

Spoiler: We Dare Not Speak Their Names (The Modkilled)
None. Ever. Or else.


Hot Links:

Paragon Thread
Mafia Thread

Never Gonna Give You Up
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Post Post #1 (isolation #1) » Thu May 25, 2023 6:41 am

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Da Rulez
  1. Have fun. This is not an option. Games are only good when players are having fun. If you are not having fun, replace out. There is no shame in this. I have no problem with it. You are not a bad person. Both you and the game will be happier for it.
  2. Don't be a dick. Seriously. Don't.
  3. Obey all site rules. Yes, even that one.
  4. If you have a question, ask me, either in thread in bold or by PM. I will respond, either in thread or by PM, depending on whether your question is something I can answer publicly, I can only answer privately, or I cannot answer.
  5. Voting can be done with vote tags VOTE: Jingle or with bold tags
    Vote: Jingle
    . Your vote must not be within any spoilers to count. Your vote must be recognizable as a vote for only one possible person. Attempting to game the voting system, no matter how cute the attempt will be met with swift and harsh punishment.
  6. Dead players may continue to post in any game areas that they have access to.
  7. The day has no deadline. The guessing phase, during which paragons may guess the scumteam, will last a maximum of 96 hours, at which point no guess will be automatically submitted and the scum team will win. To keep the game moving smoothly, please post regularly. The thread will not lock: you may continue to post at any time. If you do not post at least once every 36 hours you will be prodded. If you do not respond to a prod within 24 hours or receive multiple prods, you may be force replaced at my leisure. You may declare V/LA, but if you are going to be gone for more than three days I may force replace you for the good of the game.
  8. GuyInFreezer is the backup mod for this game. He has all of the authority and none of the responsibility of your average Jingle. If he tells you to do something, assume you should do it.


Edit Log: Added an omitted comma because the lack of proper grammar was bugging me.
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Post Post #2 (isolation #2) » Thu May 25, 2023 6:49 am

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Setup Specific Information

Sample Role PM's

There are 3 Vanilla Townies and 2 Mafia Goons

Welcome to Burden of Proficiency Mafia!

You are a VT, aligned with The Town!

Win Condition: You will win the game should you manage to eliminate a mafia player D1, or the Paragons guess the mafia team correctly.

Powers: You have your Vote, which you may use to find your enemies during the day.


Welcome to Burden of Proficiency Mafia!

You are a Mafia Goon, aligned with The Mafia!

Win Condition: You will win the game should you manage to eliminate a town player on D1 and hide from the Paragons.

Powers: You have your Vote, which you may use to find your enemies during the day. You may communicate with your partner, here.


Welcome to Burdened of Proficiency Mafia!

You are a Paragon, aligned with The Paragons!

Win Condition: You will win the game should you manage to guess correctly on the Alternate Identities of all players or the composition of the scumteam.

Powers: You may communicate with your partners in the PARAGON THREAD: here. During the Day Phase, the paragons may collectively guess the identities of all 5 regular players. If they do so correctly, the Paragons will immediately win and all other players will lose. At the end of the Guess phase, the paragons may collectively guess one pair of players. If both of those players are mafia, the Town AND Paragons win!
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Post Post #3 (isolation #3) » Thu May 25, 2023 6:50 am

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Vote Count 1.InitialKlaus Hargreeves (0):
Five Hargreeves (0):
Vanya Hargreeves (0):
Allison Hargreeves (0):
Lila Pitts (0):

Not Voting (5): Klaus Hargreeves, Five Hargreeves, Vanya Hargreeves, Allison Hargreeves, Lila Pitts
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Post Post #4 (isolation #4) » Thu May 25, 2023 6:51 am

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You may Ego post in this thread with your main account. There is no rule against alt slipping, but it is very much inadvisable to do so, as it will make the job of the Paragons to find the true identities of the players that much easier. Good luck, and have fun!
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Post Post #7 (isolation #5) » Thu May 25, 2023 8:52 am

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"Lynch" is a word prohibited from use in mafia games by the site rules. Please refrain from using it in the future. Common replacements are elimination, lim or yeet.
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Post Post #13 (isolation #6) » Thu May 25, 2023 2:16 pm

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The opening post has been edited to include hot links to associated game threads. Feel free to follow those links. If you aren't mafia or a Paragon, at least you'll be able to feel the uplifting message of a Scandinavian man giving you his unconditional support.
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Post Post #45 (isolation #7) » Fri May 26, 2023 5:45 am

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Korina was late to the party, but that's okay. They've joined us as an additional Paragon!
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Post Post #60 (isolation #8) » Fri May 26, 2023 1:41 pm

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Decisions will be locked in when unanimous. If a choice is not locked in by whatever deadline is given, whether the hammer vote or the the end of the 96 hours, plurality within the Paragon thread will apply.
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Post Post #69 (isolation #9) » Sat May 27, 2023 4:49 am

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Prodding Vanya.
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Post Post #82 (isolation #10) » Sat May 27, 2023 8:52 am

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Vote Count 1.1Lila Pitts (1):
Klaus Hargreeves (0):
Five Hargreeves (0):
Vanya Hargreeves (0):
Allison Hargreeves (0):

Not Voting (4): Five Hargreeves, Vanya Hargreeves, Allison Hargreeves, Lila Pitts
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Post Post #86 (isolation #11) » Sat May 27, 2023 5:14 pm

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In post 1, Jingle wrote: If you have a question, ask me, either in thread in bold or by PM. I will respond, either in thread or by PM, depending on whether your question is something I can answer publicly, I can only answer privately, or I cannot answer.
If any questions are intended to be addressed to me, please follow this procedure.
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Post Post #92 (isolation #12) » Sun May 28, 2023 7:41 am

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In post 89, Vanya Hargreeves wrote: wait, mod, if paragons guess mains, do the paragons win or does paragons + town win?
If the paragons correctly guess all main accounts, the paragons will win alone. In this case, both town and mafia factions will lose.
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Post Post #98 (isolation #13) » Mon May 29, 2023 5:48 am

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Prodding Klaus.
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Post Post #101 (isolation #14) » Mon May 29, 2023 7:24 am

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In post 99, Klaus Hargreeves wrote: I'm okay with lynching vanya or allison...
In post 7, Jingle wrote: "Lynch" is a word prohibited from use in mafia games by the site rules. Please refrain from using it in the future. Common replacements are elimination, lim or yeet.
One last reminder: Follow all site rules.
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Post Post #103 (isolation #15) » Mon May 29, 2023 4:14 pm

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Prodding Vanya.
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Post Post #113 (isolation #16) » Tue May 30, 2023 11:32 pm

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Vote Count 1.2Lila Pitts (0):
Klaus Hargreeves (0):
Five Hargreeves (0):
Vanya Hargreeves (0):
Allison Hargreeves (0):


Not Voting (5): Five Hargreeves, Vanya Hargreeves, Allison Hargreeves, Lila Pitts,
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Post Post #119 (isolation #17) » Thu Jun 01, 2023 12:04 pm

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Prodding Vanya.
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Post Post #124 (isolation #18) » Fri Jun 02, 2023 4:09 pm

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Vanya has requested replacement. Locking pending mod discussions.
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Post Post #125 (isolation #19) » Sat Jun 03, 2023 5:56 pm

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At least one person has requested that original rules be implemented.

As such, Vanya Hargreeves has been eliminated.

Vanya Hargreeves was:

Spoiler:
MAFIA!


Spoiler:
The town of
Klaus Hargreeves
Five Hargreeves
Lila Pitts

have won.

Additionally, the Paragons, LLD and Korina, have won.


I will try to do a post game writeup tomorrow, but let me just take a moment to explain the issues with the setup for those who were unclear.

I did not check the setup page to ensure fully accurate information when /inning to mod. There was, at the time, a typo saying there were 3 scum and two town. This was pointed out to me by someone who didn't actually join the game, and was changed after the setup was in signups. Additionally, there were two MAJOR changes to how this game works: the replacement is death change and the fact that players could join midgame. Both had reasons they existed, but in my opinion negatively impacted the game overall. This was further exacerbated by my not emphasizing them fully. Both rules were included in the /in to mod post, but should have been given emphasis in my Rules post.

The reason for the ability for Paragons joining midgame was to allow the setup to fire as soon as the minimum number of players had signed up without having additional time for paragons to potentially join with a full setup sitting in the micro queue. I don't think that this is worth the potential negative impact of the post start insertion of players in hindsight.

The reason for the replacement is death rule was because allowing replacements significantly impacted the Paragon wincondition of alt guessing, more so than in a normal game. It was expected that the game would run fairly quickly (both town and scum have an incentive of coming to a quick decision to prevent paragon from claiming the solo win, which in turn makes a townwin less likely due to less deliberation time). I do feel bad that this negatively impacted the chances of the scumteam winning based on factors outside their control.
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Post Post #129 (isolation #20) » Mon Jun 05, 2023 2:23 am

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If anyone is interested in playing this setup again I will likely be inning to run with a couple fixes in the next few days.

This time I’ll be using a solo paragon slot and I’ll have more standard replacement rules to make things flow a little more smoothly.
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Post Post #130 (isolation #21) » Mon Jun 05, 2023 3:29 pm

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MUSHSHUGANA requested a notes thread and also that said thread be released. The mafia and Paragon pts are linked in the OP.
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Post Post #131 (isolation #22) » Mon Jun 05, 2023 4:05 pm

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Allison - Flea - Mafia
Klaus - Political Clout - Town
Vanya - Patchwork - Mafia
Lila - BBMolla - Town
Five - MUSHSHAGANA - Town

Accesses have all been revoked, I think. I haven't updated the profile pics/sigs/etc to be default, but that can wait until I get back home.
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Post Post #136 (isolation #23) » Wed Jun 07, 2023 3:53 am

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In post 132, patchwork wrote:sorry ):
Not at all your fault. The replacement thing was a decision I made to punish people who flaked out without playing, not a decision to punish people who genuinely couldn't handle playing. I fucked up by assuming that the game would be fast enough to make a real need for replacement a likely thing.

NEVER apologize for taking care of yourself: the end of game being weird like this is on me, not on you.
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