Micro 1083: Garlic Bread Heist! (Game Over)

[Alisae]

why are you being so nice to me

do u like butting heads?

[Alisae]

I can be meaner try voting me

[Alisae]

VOTE: alisae

User Alisae is too nice to me they must be aligned with the mafia!!!!!!!

[Thestatusquo]

ur so weird :/

[Alisae]

VOTE: thestatusquo

grrrrrrrrr, how COULD user thestatusquo misread me here! I am OBVIOUS TOWN!!!!!!!!!! They should be able to identify that!!!!!!!!! grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

[Alisae]

VOTE: vp balter

[Alisae]

ur so weird :/

excuse me I am acting out a toxic 1v1 it is very not weird in fact it is super normal!!!!!!!

[Alisae]

why are you being so nice to me

if you want an actual answer, and if you can't tell due to my joking nature, I have no reason to do the contrary.
No reason to butt heads.

[xofelf]

I don't know how to read xof. I have no idea what a xof scum game looks like. It's unclear to me that xof even knows what a xof scum game looks like.

Well, kinda. Like I don't know how to describe it, but I do know where you can go to see it. It's what was going on in the Survivormeet Invitational that BROseidon and I want to say OGML ran. It was also, scum with a lurksack team. But there were mod mistakes, so game never finished, so we don't know what a xofscum endgame looks like. And I suppose you've also seen it F2F once.

[Alisae]

endgame hard

[VP Baltar]

In The Competitive Team Based Format The Tiger was Very Into Looking As If he Was Working while Actually Slacking Off

While A View into A game As a Good One he Makes a Similar Remark That I initially Felt was A Preemptive Excuse For Different Play For Being a Mafia Roll

Also I'm going to be low effort until tomorrow probably. Lots of football to watch today and a post count to stay under, but I'll be my usual spammy self then.

Try not to give me 30 pages to read in the meanwhile.

This bit isn't going to get old I'm sure

Isn't this the same shit you did in Hollow Knight?

In retrospect i regret shooting my load early with this. Sometimes I just say things that pop into my head without thinking about whether it would be smart to not say them yet.

I do think there's something to VPBs expressed annoyment about the gimmick posting but I should have waited to see if more would have come from this first.

Being annoyed at people who intentionally make the game harder to read isn't AI. If someone was in here spamming pages of nonsense or posting walls without quotes for reference, I'd say the same thing. I prefer people to make to make the game as readable as possible.

I don't think garlic bread is being super annoying about it and im not going to tell them what to do, just definitely not the most user friendly approach to the game, imo.

[VP Baltar]

VOTE: garlic bread

Easier to steal it if it's dead. No fighting back.

Skygazer maybe town or feels guilty about me carrying and they're trying this game.

Inconsistency Is Detected
Vote seems Random Vote Stagey
Combo'd with Serious Read

Would you have Other reads on Top of Skygazer?

I reread your case just now GB, and I think this is the main point you're trying to make since most of the rest seems to flow from this.

I don't see what "inconsistency " is here. I did not have a good scum read at this point (still don't actually) and I observed behavior that appeared different to me from the scum game I just completed with skygazer. There's nothing inconsistent about these views, other than your "one is serious and one is not" point...which is about the depth of an inconsistency found between two images in Highlights magazine.

What is my scum motivation for posting a nonserious vote alongside a serious observation? What is my angle that you're zeroing in on here?

The rest of your "case" seems like padding to reinforce this point. You make some kind of assumption I should have a reads list because I said one thing about sky, and I don't know what the basis is for that assumption. I think regardless of alignment, anyone with a full reads list this early in a game is making up a lot of stuff.

[Garlic Bread]

Phone posting so I'm dropping the capitalization gimmick here for now.

Cigarette man: regardless of the reasoning(that's not what my read boils down too anyways) - I have a townread on most players here and you're in the bottom 4, and by extension I see a plausible pairing between you and sheep.
Sure - it could be xof - survivor player tongues are tricky - but at this point they're trending as Towny

A lot of my conclusions are extrapolations based on connections I see, correct, but there are other supporting arguments - such as what you *aren't* doing, which is evaluating other slots as far as I can see, and the aforementioned townread on others.
Alisae entrance was towny here, even if a little cringey

I am actually more sure on sheep being a hit than you but I want to see how you play out with pressure.
At this point I'm looking at
[Baltar, sheep, xof] with a blindspot in *maybe* hellbooks/Shea

This is just how I predict players will trend from my PoV and I am able to change my mind if you prove my view is incorrect by townclearing yourself - but until then I cannot really see you as town here, or at least someone who isn't going to be resolved.

[Garlic Bread]

The inconsistency was with the seriousness of vote <-> read and that was what peaked my interest
"OH I'm going to vote the person talking weird and make up an excuse, but let me slap a townread on someone who might know how I play as mafia because it's fresh in their mind"

I do agree - your townread does make sense, but to me it feels like it is strongly in the range of TMI and i want to see what your scumreads are.

[VP Baltar]

I mean, I don't know what to tell you. I don't have strong scum reads this early, having been phone posting yesterday entirely while doing other things on my weekend. If that is scummy behavior to you, I think that's a pretty absurd take and level zero scumhunting, but go off.

I personally think you're bullshitting reads to see what sticks. The question for me is why you're doing that, and answering that question probably means I need to carefully parse the shtick stuff I skimmed. Add it to my to do list

[Garlic Bread]

Who am I wrong on then?

[Skygazer]

limited access today

[VP Baltar]

Who am I wrong on then?

Me obv.

That being said, the way you're playing seems to be "hard town read some people and then just claim anyone below that is probably scum."

Which...

I don't have any meta for you, but would you say you typically have very strong reads early in the game? How accurate are those in your experience?

[Garlic Bread]

Just want to add - mainly to VP but applies to all. Please don't lower your play to "avoid a nightkill", just play normally because chances are mafia will sew you stick out if you do that.
Others also see difference from standard play and will latch on and then that wastes tike.

So just assume you're VT and play accordingly. Don't rely on your claim as a get out of jail free card until it's really necessary.

[Garlic Bread]

Just want to add - mainly to VP but applies to all. Please don't lower your play to "avoid a nightkill", just play normally because chances are mafia will sew you stick out if you do that.
Others also see difference from standard play and will latch on and then that wastes tike.

So just assume you're VT and play accordingly. Don't rely on your claim as a get out of jail free card until it's really necessary.

Forgot to add "if you are a PR"

[Thestatusquo]

I don't have a reads list.

[VP Baltar]

Just want to add - mainly to VP but applies to all. Please don't lower your play to "avoid a nightkill", just play normally because chances are mafia will sew you stick out if you do that.
Others also see difference from standard play and will latch on and then that wastes tike.

So just assume you're VT and play accordingly. Don't rely on your claim as a get out of jail free card until it's really necessary.

Maybe I should put my vote back on you actually

[Garlic Bread]

Just want to add - mainly to VP but applies to all. Please don't lower your play to "avoid a nightkill", just play normally because chances are mafia will sew you stick out if you do that.
Others also see difference from standard play and will latch on and then that wastes tike.

So just assume you're VT and play accordingly. Don't rely on your claim as a get out of jail free card until it's really necessary.

Maybe I should put my vote back on you actually

Are you saying this to see how others react first before committing?

[Garlic Bread]

I don't think it's some secret wisdom that commonly PRs get run up in games very often for precisely the reason of playing to dodge the nightkill, regardless - from your point of view, yes I'm incorrect on you - what do you think of sheep, do you think they're opportunisticly playing around your slot?
And another question, my apologies, do you believe my process comes from scum, and why?

[Garlic Bread]

I don't have a reads list.

I don't expect you as a player to have one, but do you have a gth PoE, towncore, or whatnot to start yet?