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Post Post #1175 (ISO) » Mon Jun 05, 2023 4:29 pm

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You sit at the window with a glass of beer,
And on the river watch the ships go by,
Then in the evening go home with a grateful sigh
And thank the Lord things are peaceful here.


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Greeting (2): Meuh, imaginality
Meuh (2): Greeting, Doctor Drew
phir (1): biancospino
No Elimination (1): Phir

not voting (3): Whemestar, GrandpaMo, Enchant

with 9 alive it is 5 to eliminate.
Surrender, imagine and of course wear something nice.
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Post Post #1176 (ISO) » Mon Jun 05, 2023 4:30 pm

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ngl phir im interested in ur no vote, I see a potential benefit. talk to me
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Post Post #1177 (ISO) » Mon Jun 05, 2023 5:08 pm

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In post 1174, GrandpaMo wrote:also if yall think im mime, then scum needs to shoot me. im a bp so scum can shoot me and no body will be killed during the night!
Wut.

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Post Post #1178 (ISO) » Mon Jun 05, 2023 8:02 pm

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In post 1173, Greeting wrote:
In post 1163, Phir wrote: Greeting are you able to tell me who you think is town here?
At this moment I am townreading only yourself. Maybe townleaning
Doctor Drew
as well.

I think
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GrandpaMo
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I don’t know how many scums are there though. It’s possible that there are two, given that we have at least two mimes in the game as well, in which case the second scum is between the aforementioned two.
Last night while thinking I wondered anout: Meuh and Imaginality scum, biancospino
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Post Post #1179 (ISO) » Mon Jun 05, 2023 8:10 pm

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In post 1176, GrandpaMo wrote: ngl phir im interested in ur no vote, I see a potential benefit. talk to me
The benefit is keeping safe. But I know it fails, even in this game, so I don't feel like pushing it. Maybe someday I'll get a no lim.

Right now at least I feel bianco isn't town. So.

I'm not going to vote Bianco I'm not a lemming.

Meuh I will vote however. Outside of how they have backtracked on me bei g town and other things, the clear drive today is towards a greeting or meuh lim.

Greeting: Could be town, scum, or capable mime
Meuh: Could be good scum or at this point lost town but not a mime
Biancospino: Scum or mime. Hard to decide which, both vibes are there.

If I want to vote today it's gonna be meuh, I'll hammer over greeting.

I've been getting dEfinite scum vibes from them today. I feel their positioning on bianco and imag is weird.

And for now it's my safest play oother than a no lim or a self vote.

Meuh..... almost voted just now but meh there's time.
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Post Post #1180 (ISO) » Mon Jun 05, 2023 8:17 pm

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Cat Scatch/Bianco as mimes and Imag/meuh as scum makes sense on an instinctual level to me since last night.
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Post Post #1181 (ISO) » Mon Jun 05, 2023 9:06 pm

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In post 827, Greeting wrote:
In post 788, Meuh wrote:
In post 784, imaginality wrote: VOTE: Cat Scratch Fever E-2

If there was scum on WhemeStar it's probably this vote switch to Enchant because I don't think scum!Drew would switch to Mo (if Mo was a likely mislim that would've kicked off after the fake PR stuff).

And... eh I guess scum!bianco might see town!Phir as a possible mislim but CSF's vote on Enchant seems the most likely to be scum trying to get a different mislim going after the first one stalled.

The rolefishing seems bad (narrows down who might be doc, also the 'weird or normal roles' question could help scum with faking claims. Specifically I don't think we should say if there are thematic flavour elements in our PMs or not). But it does seem, particularly demona asking about doc, too blatant for scum to feel comfortable doing it.

This is a pretty weird game to try to read, it feels like listening to people talking underwater. I wouldn't be opposed to limming WhemeStar still (I think the flip would be more informative than waiting to get a read from their posts) but I was suspicious of CSF earlier and the switch to Enchant has pinged me again.
Okay yeah Imaginality can be town, love this post
Hmm.

What do you love about that post?
Ok I read back to try and see where greeting was when they were in hammer range, im sort of agreeing with enchant the poss. They a mime slimmer.

Instead I noticed this, and at the time I was also curious about imag's post which basically sheeped the demona/greeting/meuh/phir dynamic. I kept silent, and while meuh's ready acceptance of imag's post might have raised an eyebrow I think I still had meuh as solid town.

I forgot all aboit all that, but I did like greeting not seeming to like imag's post by questioning meuh.

So.

Going off what imag says here I'm starting to feel scum uninformed about mimes, meuh/imag scum bianco/cat mimes, I'm feeling it stronger.
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Post Post #1182 (ISO) » Mon Jun 05, 2023 9:13 pm

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VOTE: imaginality for now.
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Post Post #1183 (ISO) » Mon Jun 05, 2023 9:37 pm

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In post 1182, Phir wrote: VOTE: imaginality for now.
why
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Post Post #1184 (ISO) » Mon Jun 05, 2023 9:41 pm

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In post 1183, Enchant wrote:
In post 1182, Phir wrote: VOTE: imaginality for now.
why
Cos I'm basically waiting to vote meuh. Doubt people will vote outside meuh/greeting.
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Post Post #1185 (ISO) » Mon Jun 05, 2023 9:54 pm

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Then vote Meuh
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Post Post #1186 (ISO) » Mon Jun 05, 2023 10:17 pm

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No.
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Post Post #1187 (ISO) » Mon Jun 05, 2023 10:26 pm

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... Okay whatever.
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Post Post #1188 (ISO) » Mon Jun 05, 2023 10:38 pm

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VOTE: Meuh
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Post Post #1189 (ISO) » Mon Jun 05, 2023 11:08 pm

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In post 1095, Phir wrote:
In post 1090, Enchant wrote:
In post 1088, Phir wrote: And you assume scum/sk are not informed about the mimes(question for everybody).
I am assuming nothing

More dumb questions please?
Plz unvote this doesnt feel natural from bianco could be meuh/bianco. I hope you're town lol.
I agree with bianco that Phir's post here seems suspicious.
In post 1099, Phir wrote: And I have to check imaginality also with the greeting vote.

The fact that enchant hasnt unvoted can be AI.

If I hammer I might not have to deal with all this shite anymore tho so. Maybe if Mo is mime scum banking on the mo hammer, bianco defs scummy not mimey maybe.
Phir is probably scum with Greeting. This second post feels to me like Phir saw the unvote the post before so could appear willing to hammer without actually having to.
In post 1170, GrandpaMo wrote:
In post 1169, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 1168, GrandpaMo wrote: I think both u and greeting have a possibility of both being town. im just not in the right headscarf to explain it
Well put on the correct headscarf, because you can't just say that without explaining why.
since no one spoke up about giving greeting that power, it is possible that scum has an ability that gives town a false power where the power, in this case a watcher ability, always produces a negative result, in this case a guilty result on the target, Meuh.
Tbh this is a possibility that should be considered in a bastard game. But I think there'd be more people voting Meuh if scum were actually using the power that way as they'd make the most of it (especially considering it nets them two mislims). So I don't think this is our reality.

I also agree that Greeting not wanting the power giver to out themselves is a sus mindset. I think there's more benefit in that getting clarified than getting to use it again.
In post 1176, GrandpaMo wrote: ngl phir im interested in ur no vote, I see a potential benefit. talk to me
If we had a good sense of how many scum and mimes we have we could make scum take another shot or two before eliminating someone, to increase the chance of the mimes losing. Though I think more likely we end up worse off since scum probably aim for town if they know that's the plan. And probably have a better read than us on who the mimes are.

--
I don't think Drew and Whemestar push for the elimination to be between Meuh and Greeting today if either of them were Greeting's buddy. Or if they're scum and know Greeting's a mime. So I guess I have to consider them most likely town.

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Town:
Meuh
Enchant
Bianco
Drew
Wheme

Scum:
Phir
Greeting

Mime:
GrandpaMo
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Post Post #1190 (ISO) » Mon Jun 05, 2023 11:30 pm

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lol like a gopher from a hole
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Post Post #1191 (ISO) » Tue Jun 06, 2023 1:25 am

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There hasn’t been a single post by
imaginality
that I liked, and he makes sense as a scum partner for
Meuh
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Post Post #1192 (ISO) » Tue Jun 06, 2023 2:58 am

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Do you think I defend a guiltied scumbuddy this hard when if we flip you and you're town Meuh dies tomorrow anyway?
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Post Post #1193 (ISO) » Tue Jun 06, 2023 2:59 am

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In post 1190, Phir wrote: lol like a gopher from a hole
Gopher yourself :wink:
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Post Post #1194 (ISO) » Tue Jun 06, 2023 3:10 am

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gladly, after we slay some demons
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Post Post #1195 (ISO) » Tue Jun 06, 2023 5:38 am

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In post 1188, WhemeStar wrote: VOTE: Meuh
I think this is hammer
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Post Post #1196 (ISO) » Tue Jun 06, 2023 5:42 am

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I guess Wheme could maybe be a buddy of Greeting since Greeting looks a bit less likely to be limmed in a 1v1 than before. Drew doesn't look likely. But if Greeting is mime rather than scum Drew and Wheme are the prob scum in that scenario I think.
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Post Post #1197 (ISO) » Tue Jun 06, 2023 5:43 am

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I don't think so? Bar triple voter shenanigans
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Post Post #1198 (ISO) » Tue Jun 06, 2023 5:55 am

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GrandPa meant he gonna quickhammer Meuh with Phir
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Post Post #1199 (ISO) » Tue Jun 06, 2023 5:55 am

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VOTE: Greeting
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