Normal 2302: Magical Girls | GAME OVER

[Hu Tao]

And hey if Bri's agreeing with my logic there, it doesn't look great for em

And hey if Bri's agreeing with my logic there, it doesn't look great for em

Yeah that's uh... Why the hell did he DO that?? Damn.

The only thing bri admitted to was typically being a stoic player, which was a little bit of a contrast to how pushing him seemed to bother him early this game

Bristep could be scum there's nothing really to go off of

DGB and bri/HPE aren't scum together

Curiousdog is town

Hu Tao and DGB probably not both scum 1

Sort of notable that a lot of players scumread DGB i dont detect any discernable difference from her usual play, I feel like Hu Tao is stretching to vote her for 'OMGUS' but it was basically DGB's rvs vote. I can kind of see why someone might vote for posting a readslist for whatever reason (i recall someone did that earlier) but Hu Tao's vote is paper thin

VOTE: Emperor

I was going to say I liked this post until the vote, then I hated it. Regardless if emperor is scum or not, your post clearly shows you scumread me. Why move your vote when casting shade on me? Instead of just pushing me now and trying to get others to vote me? It feels like you're setting up a misvote out on me later with this. And you're trying to subtle do it instead of just being the one leading it.

[Hu Tao]

VOTE: morning

I might want to take back my drip scumread. Not sure yet. I'll sleep on it.

[Morning Tweet]

You were townreading me up until I stopped voting you in favour of Emperor? That makes no sense. My opinion of you hasn't changed.

[Morning Tweet]

That's actually completely made up, I don't believe you at all

VOTE: Hu Tao

[Morning Tweet]

For reference i think you and emperor were roughly on an even playing field but Emperor has been gone and has a wagon on him so i thought it productive

You saying that you townread the post and then suddenly because i voted emperor that somehow invalidates what i said about you is ridiculous and very hard for me to take

[Morning Tweet]

Can't believe the only response you had for me was "Emperor vote sus" I don't believe that for a second

[Morning Tweet]

Lets talk about your 33% post rate about how u find DGB suspicious over any other slot

Or we can talk about how you're kind of suspecting gera but not really elaborating, or how you said you "Liked what you were seeing" from my post up until I vote emperor so you can make this weak sauce setting u pmislim argument for no reason other than that there's a vote and a suspicion in the same post for differnent players

WHat do you even want me to say about Empreor he hasnt posted since around halfway

[geraintm]

HighPrincessErinys [ 3 ] sheepsaysmeep, geraintm, Save the Dragons

seems like a bad wagon

Back after 2 days at legoland

I agree, this is a terrible wagon

did u get any legos

this is an alignment indicative question btw. Be cautious how u answer

I still have my childhood castle lego set, the girls didn't want to get any.

[DrippingGoofball]

I'm gonna put a pin on ckd being town for now and I'm ready to slay.

VOTE: Hu Tao

[Elements]

VOTE: Hu Tao

[curiouskarmadog]

Don't ask others their opinions like that

Hey Ger, if you have been able to tell yet, this is a ridiculous statement

but ill bite.

Why do you believe that?

It felt like they were asking someone else rheir opinions on a 3rd or 4th player - ready to use that to justify their own reads.

It sets them up for votes they never believed in but can get away with

How much mafia have you played?

Lets say person A wants to know/get the stance on record of who Person B and C, think are scum...how would they do that?

Played some, but always badly.

I suppose youncan ask, but too many times it is done so you mean later agree with that reasoning and use it to justify your own vote. Why I awarded a naughty point

but if someone doesnt ask someone else's stance...How does ANYONE know? this reasoning is just really bad.

[curiouskarmadog]

OD, do you feel I am being aggressive? Seriously?

This wasn't addressed to me but I feel your play is a 180⁰ from last game. So it borderline makes me want to vote you.

180 you say? How so....like exactly how? This is easy to say, but how exactly? this is funny, because in Day 1 (in that game), you joined scum in voting me because I started attacking someone early who I felt was scum.

so EXACTLY how is it different? Im trying to figure out if you actually believe this or not.

[curiouskarmadog]

HighPrincessErinys [ 3 ] sheepsaysmeep, geraintm, Save the Dragons

seems like a bad wagon

Back after 2 days at legoland

I agree, this is a terrible wagon

did u get any legos

this is an alignment indicative question btw. Be cautious how u answer

I still have my childhood castle lego set, the girls didn't want to get any.

hey maybe there is a fun different thread where you guys can talk legos, this is just fluffing up this thread, which isnt helpful.

Hey Gera, who is scum and why? Ill go ahead and take that "naughty point" because I asked.

[curiouskarmadog]

I asked OD, but dont see (or missed) an answer.

Hey Elements, I have a hot second to meta. Is there a town game where you lied about a read to "get the conversation started"? If I look, will I find a scum game?

[OopsieDaisy]

The Emperor wagon is fine, I'm not gonna be offended if it happens cause Emperor isn't giving us much in the way of activity at all and I read the slot null, but that flip is gonna tell us a lot less than an Erinys or Elements one imo.

Bristar hasn't given us much in the way of activity either; in fact, even less. I'm not convinced that a bri/hpe flip necessarily tells us any more than an Emperor flip. IMO there's more texture to the reads that people have given to Emperor. hpe's slot has been basically just SR'd by everybody the whole game. There's not a lot to go off of there. (Though I do agree with DGB that hpe has felt scummy).

There's a lot to work from with an Elements flip as Elements has commented on basically everybody and basically everybody has commented on Elements, but at the same time I feel like I've seen more arguments from you as to why Elements is town rather than scum lately, particularly in 372. Also your reasoning for your current push on Elements has been mainly focused on game progression rather than a strong belief that Elements is scum (326). I'm not convinced that you're convinced of the Elements wagon.

I do feel that because the wagon on Erinys' slot has been going on longer, people have had to make more decisions around it. Though yeah getting more info from the flip would involve really looking into who was silently against it as I think only DGB vocalised that she didn't like the Bri wagon.

It's tricky, cause my brain is telling me to vote Elements with my slight scumread + game progression reasons. I do think this is a really strong vote to push the game forward and to make this Day 1 mean something.

However my heart is stuck on the Bri/Erinys slot. It's just I can't put aside how scummy I felt Bri was playing, and Erinys hasn't done anything to bump my read back up from where it was pre-replacement.

The Hu Tao read on Tweet was weird, three people jumping straight onto voting them is weirder (including someone who I think is a baller vote and kinda sussy). I think this could be a wagon that scum are seeing as a bit of a get out of jail free card to escape Day 1. But obvs I'm biased in this assessment with the reads I've been pushing all game on Bri/Erinys & Elements.

[OopsieDaisy]

OD, do you feel I am being aggressive? Seriously?

This wasn't addressed to me but I feel your play is a 180⁰ from last game. So it borderline makes me want to vote you.

180 you say? How so....like exactly how? This is easy to say, but how exactly? this is funny, because in Day 1 (in that game), you joined scum in voting me because I started attacking someone early who I felt was scum.

so EXACTLY how is it different? Im trying to figure out if you actually believe this or not.

Yea this is pinging me a lot more in regards to the Hu Tao slot, I don't see how CKD's play is a 180 from their last game together (i read a lil bit of it pregame as well :3).

[DrippingGoofball]

I could vote Erinys as well.

[Save The Dragons]

i think elements's energy did change from being more bombastic to a little more focused around the time they start pushing hu tao

What do you think is the reason for this?

i think people tend to get more serious after the random voting stage

[Save The Dragons]

VOTE: Hu tao

[HighPrincessErinys]

am sus of

DrippingGoofball

Wanna vote drip?

Would like to know why you two suspect DGB too.

Finally saw this post, and have to concur that DGB isn't really like, DOING anything? They're posting reads, yeah, but have given zero to extremely barebones reasoning on every one of them, and those reads are ALL they've provided, as they aren't exactly questioning people or directly sorting slots to get those reads.

One short meta dive later: Displeased to learn that this is roughly how DGB always plays it seems.

[HighPrincessErinys]

Also the Tao Train looks appealing but this one is also kind of concerned with the amount of people immediately jumping on it as well.

[OopsieDaisy]

I'm also concerned about a possible STD/Elements pairing. STD's vote onto Bristar just as I switch onto the Elements wagon seemed like he was trying to take pressure off of the Elements slot, and now the naked votes from both of them flying onto Hu Tao is also ringing alarm bells.

[Elements]

Also the Tao Train looks appealing but this one is also kind of concerned with the amount of people immediately jumping on it as well.

There have been a disappointing number of wagons so far

[towwl]

I’m the only person to actually give HT a town read, and everybody who’s voted HT so far has a history of scum reading that slot. I don’t really see this wagon as being that suspect.

That said I still think there are better targets than HT. It seems like there’s too much resistance to an Emperor wagon (which I still don’t quite understand because it seems people generally see him as scummy) so I guess it’s time for me to switch.

Bri/HPE is an even better target now that we have activity from HPE and it’s very scummy and has done nothing to alleviate my concerns about scum!bristar.

VOTE: HPE

[sheepsaysmeep]

dodging prod will do something soon