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[Elements]

VOTE: hpe

[Save The Dragons]

daisy

why do you think Hu Tao is town

[OopsieDaisy]

daisy

why do you think Hu Tao is town

Because unlike a lot of other wagons that have had to be carefully built up over the game, the Hu Tao wagon (outside of Elements' pushes) felt like a flash wagon. A justifiable one but still the speed at which it picked up scared me. Alongside this the source of the wagon, Elements, is also someone I'm suspicious of. Compare that to me starting the Bri wagon and Karma (who I read very town) starting the Elements wagon, and you can see how I have a lot more trust in who kicked off those wagons. I'm becoming slightly more at ease with a Hu Tao flip the more I realise it actually would give us good info, but these are the doubts I have around it.

[towwl]

VOTE: hpe

I think HPE might be at E-1 with this?

[towwl]

VOTE: hpe

I think HPE might be at E-1 with this?

NVM it's at E-2, I forgot gera moved to DGB

[Elements]

I thought it was e-2
P-edit: beat me to it

[Save The Dragons]

daisy

why do you think Hu Tao is town

Because unlike a lot of other wagons that have had to be carefully built up over the game, the Hu Tao wagon (outside of Elements' pushes) felt like a flash wagon. A justifiable one but still the speed at which it picked up scared me.

why are flash wagons scummy

[towwl]

I’ll be a min

It has been 379 minutes

I found the engineer.

how many minutes has it been now

1158

[DrippingGoofball]

daisy

why do you think Hu Tao is town

Because unlike a lot of other wagons that have had to be carefully built up over the game, the Hu Tao wagon (outside of Elements' pushes) felt like a flash wagon. A justifiable one but still the speed at which it picked up scared me. Alongside this the source of the wagon, Elements, is also someone I'm suspicious of. Compare that to me starting the Bri wagon and Karma (who I read very town) starting the Elements wagon, and you can see how I have a lot more trust in who kicked off those wagons. I'm becoming slightly more at ease with a Hu Tao flip the more I realise it actually would give us good info, but these are the doubts I have around it.

This kind of wagon speedmetering is always BS.

Why? Because on Day 1, scum is more likely to

rush

to

bus

a troubled buddy for future towncred than to defend said troubled buddy, and deal with the consequences for the rest of the game.

To further sort the wagon participants as more or less scummy, and use that to evaluate the value of the wagon, is absurd. It's like a Russian doll of unknown variables, and utterly worthless.

[OopsieDaisy]

daisy

why do you think Hu Tao is town

Because unlike a lot of other wagons that have had to be carefully built up over the game, the Hu Tao wagon (outside of Elements' pushes) felt like a flash wagon. A justifiable one but still the speed at which it picked up scared me.

why are flash wagons scummy

Because they don't give the town chance to discuss. And with scum having access to a PT, it's important that town also get the chance to coordinate by talking openly about the wagons in play.

Obvs we've been given this space now so I can be less worried about it, but that's why I don't like em. Maybe it's more of a personal preference than an alignment thing and that's something I can figure out at some point, but I definitely had an instinctual adverse reaction to seeing 4 people pile onto someone outta nowhere.

[Elements]

Except it wasn't out of nowhere

[OopsieDaisy]

Except it wasn't out of nowhere

Yea true, even I acknowledged that weird bout of posts from Hu Tao that caused it.

[Morning Tweet]

i can FEEL the town coming from sheep i forget what it was exactly but i felt pretty strong abt it earlier

Hu Tao you were like "I was reading your post and it was all in order until you voted Emperor" -- like you're saying that the bit of my post devoted to suspecting you is fine, but because I voted Emperor that suddenly invalidates me and you aren't even gonna mention anything abt it except that the emperor vote made you sus for whatever reason

not townreading it though I guess I misinterpreted

Basically what seems disingenuous to me is that you think my suspicion on you is halfway reasonable but you're acting like it can't coexist with voting Emperor

[Morning Tweet]

Sheep seems pretty consistently towny to me

[Morning Tweet]

I'm pretty fooled by the amount of thoughts that seem genuine throughout sheep's ISO and i largely agree with their scum pool

His reads change and he's evaluating, I don't know how to describe this other than seems like bleeding town

[Hu Tao]

daisy

why do you think Hu Tao is town

Because unlike a lot of other wagons that have had to be carefully built up over the game, the Hu Tao wagon (outside of Elements' pushes) felt like a flash wagon. A justifiable one but still the speed at which it picked up scared me. Alongside this the source of the wagon, Elements, is also someone I'm suspicious of. Compare that to me starting the Bri wagon and Karma (who I read very town) starting the Elements wagon, and you can see how I have a lot more trust in who kicked off those wagons. I'm becoming slightly more at ease with a Hu Tao flip the more I realise it actually would give us good info, but these are the doubts I have around it.

This is pretty much a repeat of the last game I was in. Day 1 votes piled up on me for no reason, eventually I help lead town to victory. Rinse repeat.

[Hu Tao]

daisy

why do you think Hu Tao is town

Because unlike a lot of other wagons that have had to be carefully built up over the game, the Hu Tao wagon (outside of Elements' pushes) felt like a flash wagon. A justifiable one but still the speed at which it picked up scared me. Alongside this the source of the wagon, Elements, is also someone I'm suspicious of. Compare that to me starting the Bri wagon and Karma (who I read very town) starting the Elements wagon, and you can see how I have a lot more trust in who kicked off those wagons. I'm becoming slightly more at ease with a Hu Tao flip the more I realise it actually would give us good info, but these are the doubts I have around it.

This kind of wagon speedmetering is always BS.

Why? Because on Day 1, scum is more likely to

rush

to

bus

a troubled buddy for future towncred than to defend said troubled buddy, and deal with the consequences for the rest of the game.

To further sort the wagon participants as more or less scummy, and use that to evaluate the value of the wagon, is absurd. It's like a Russian doll of unknown variables, and utterly worthless.

This is the most content you've provided this game with reasoning. I am proud of you

[Hu Tao]

i can FEEL the town coming from sheep i forget what it was exactly but i felt pretty strong abt it earlier

Hu Tao you were like "I was reading your post and it was all in order until you voted Emperor" -- like you're saying that the bit of my post devoted to suspecting you is fine, but because I voted Emperor that suddenly invalidates me and you aren't even gonna mention anything abt it except that the emperor vote made you sus for whatever reason

not townreading it though I guess I misinterpreted

Basically what seems disingenuous to me is that you think my suspicion on you is halfway reasonable but you're acting like it can't coexist with voting Emperor

Yes. Because it's like me saying how much I want to eat a hot dog and then saying BTW I'm going to eat a sandwich right now, maybe hot dog later. Maybe not the best analogy but makes sense to me

[Hu Tao]

Except it wasn't out of nowhere

Yea true, even I acknowledged that weird bout of posts from Hu Tao that caused it.

What's weird about it?

[DrippingGoofball]

@MorningTweet

The simple explanation is that Hu Tao is scum.

[Firebringer]

if dgb says it. it must be true

[Firebringer]

VOTE: Hu Tao

[DrippingGoofball]

Bravo! *clap clap clap*

[OopsieDaisy]

Except it wasn't out of nowhere

Yea true, even I acknowledged that weird bout of posts from Hu Tao that caused it.

What's weird about it?

I don't understand how you feel Karma is playing 180 degrees different than their previous game, and I was struggling to follow why you scumread Tweet for her post voting Emperor.

[Thestatusquo]