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Post Post #550 (ISO) » Wed Jun 07, 2023 8:07 am

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In post 543, Skygazer wrote:
In post 537, Garlic Bread wrote:
In post 536, Skygazer wrote: someone give me something to think about pls
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i need to think about you more. sometimes i fall into the trap of "oh this player is leading the thread and posting a lot" and chuck em in the town bin
Sure. I find mentally listing reasons why someone is town/why they could be mafia and seeing what's more plausible helps for me in these situations.
We also don't want the opposite trap of binning someone as scum because of paranoia of "loud slot is trying to lead obviously powerwolfing" vibes :p
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Post Post #551 (ISO) » Wed Jun 07, 2023 8:08 am

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Ausuka is so bad at pagetops.
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Post Post #552 (ISO) » Wed Jun 07, 2023 8:10 am

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In post 547, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 544, Skygazer wrote:
In post 538, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 536, Skygazer wrote: someone give me something to think about pls
How would you say sheep's play this game compares to that game he linked, since you were in that?
doesn't feel that different but like i said im trying to get away from meta reads bc honestly a lot of the time it just winds up being me looking at differences in personality/vibe which is generally not the right thing to look for
Unexpected tbh.

I was reading that game this morning and it actually feels markedly different to me. In that game, sheep comes across as trying to have a logical reason for his moves. Whereas this game, he's just like "vibes lolidk"

That type of awareness of how you're going to look is something I do expect scum to be more concerned about, generally speaking.

Was hoping you'd see the same thing.

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to be fair i was too lazy to go back and look at that game so mostly went off of memory. i think that's a decent take if it's true
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Post Post #553 (ISO) » Wed Jun 07, 2023 8:11 am

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In post 547, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 544, Skygazer wrote:
In post 538, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 536, Skygazer wrote: someone give me something to think about pls
How would you say sheep's play this game compares to that game he linked, since you were in that?
doesn't feel that different but like i said im trying to get away from meta reads bc honestly a lot of the time it just winds up being me looking at differences in personality/vibe which is generally not the right thing to look for
Unexpected tbh.

I was reading that game this morning and it actually feels markedly different to me. In that game, sheep comes across as trying to have a logical reason for his moves. Whereas this game, he's just like "vibes lolidk"

That type of awareness of how you're going to look is something I do expect scum to be more concerned about, generally speaking.

Was hoping you'd see the same thing.

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to be fair I attribute sooome of that difference in me to this being a micro, I sort of pre-decided I'd go mainly off of vibes and stuff

but I think that's a very legit observation and still semi-valid
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Post Post #554 (ISO) » Wed Jun 07, 2023 8:11 am

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In post 548, Thestatusquo wrote:
In post 541, sheepsaysmeep wrote: vp baltar is so villagery
Why? It seems to me like he's trying to not take any stances.
three rly good questions and the way theyre spaced out is so villagery lmfao he cant stop thinking abt this game
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Post Post #555 (ISO) » Wed Jun 07, 2023 8:14 am

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In post 539, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 500, Alisae wrote: I think the D1 elimination will probably be Shea Sheep or Balter
can u explain why you want to lim shea? I am going back through your iso and you were calling him town at one point. I'm confused.
This is a great question? To me it looks like a misrep?

Alisae didn't say they wanted me or the other slots limmed there, they said they think that will be the eventual elimination.
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Post Post #556 (ISO) » Wed Jun 07, 2023 8:15 am

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Eh actually maybe I'm wrong about that
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Post Post #557 (ISO) » Wed Jun 07, 2023 8:15 am

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I just went back and read the context and they then immediately say they don't see themselves voting outside of those slots.
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Post Post #558 (ISO) » Wed Jun 07, 2023 8:16 am

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In post 555, Thestatusquo wrote:
In post 539, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 500, Alisae wrote: I think the D1 elimination will probably be Shea Sheep or Balter
can u explain why you want to lim shea? I am going back through your iso and you were calling him town at one point. I'm confused.
This is a great question? To me it looks like a misrep?

Alisae didn't say they wanted me or the other slots limmed there, they said they think that will be the eventual elimination.
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Post Post #559 (ISO) » Wed Jun 07, 2023 8:17 am

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This reminds me of town ali though and its a part of her town game I think she struggles to replicate as scum.

She just feels so much more focused on achieving specific goals as scum and here it seems like she's not doing that. I associate sort of moon logic trying to fit the game together into solves with town ali play and I think that when she tries to do the same sort of stuff as scum it doesn't feel as real to me.
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Post Post #560 (ISO) » Wed Jun 07, 2023 8:21 am

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I mean, read her iso because I don't think she's literally doing anything but taking pot shots. She made one decent point that was bugging me about sheep, but it was kind of obvious and upon closer inspection from me, doesn't seen to hold up
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Post Post #561 (ISO) » Wed Jun 07, 2023 8:26 am

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In business company I played with town ali and she does a lot of that there too.

Comes in. Bam this seems villagery, my team solve is {three names seemingly plucked from nowhere} we should quick lim them all.

4 pages later {other two players} are confirmed wolfy so actually the solve is {three completely different names from the first one}

Its rapid fire solving and I don't think its very effective for finding scum but I actually don't think she replicates this approach vry well as scum.
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Post Post #562 (ISO) » Wed Jun 07, 2023 8:31 am

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Alisae, you have a recent scum game I can look at?
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Post Post #563 (ISO) » Wed Jun 07, 2023 8:33 am

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She was scum in PYP in the just finished team mafia.
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Post Post #564 (ISO) » Wed Jun 07, 2023 8:47 am

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In post 561, Thestatusquo wrote: In business company I played with town ali and she does a lot of that there too.

Comes in. Bam this seems villagery, my team solve is {three names seemingly plucked from nowhere} we should quick lim them all.

4 pages later {other two players} are confirmed wolfy so actually the solve is {three completely different names from the first one}

Its rapid fire solving and I don't think its very effective for finding scum but I actually don't think she replicates this approach vry well as scum.
I thought u were talking about Sheep and I was for a solid 5 minutes looking back at games like "wtf is shea talking about" until I went back and realized you were talking about Ali bc I noticed the pronoun wasn't he :facepalm:
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Post Post #565 (ISO) » Wed Jun 07, 2023 8:51 am

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Sheep doesn't do that, sheep likes to make a lot of rapidfire micro observations about things that might be alignment indicative.

I think he's pretty good at replicating it as scum, but to be fair its a much easier style to replicate.
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Post Post #566 (ISO) » Wed Jun 07, 2023 8:55 am

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@baltar can you kinda explain your read progrssion on hellbooks
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Post Post #567 (ISO) » Wed Jun 07, 2023 9:28 am

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In post 566, Garlic Bread wrote: @baltar can you kinda explain your read progrssion on hellbooks
I just saw hellbrooks as town when I was scum in our last game. My thought is her banter is kind of similar to there, though I feel like she's not doing as much pressuring this game as she was there.

I think I'm lean town on her now to some degree, but it's not a high confidence read. Feel like she hasn't really gotten much of a foothold yet this game.
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Post Post #568 (ISO) » Wed Jun 07, 2023 9:54 am

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it's funny bc last game i was like "why are they killing her!! she's so townie!!" and now i'm like oh i see why
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Post Post #569 (ISO) » Wed Jun 07, 2023 9:55 am

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In post 546, sheepsaysmeep wrote: it wouldve been nicer if u said something villagery
enlighten me on how to villager post
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Post Post #570 (ISO) » Wed Jun 07, 2023 10:07 am

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In post 568, Skygazer wrote: it's funny bc last game i was like "why are they killing her!! she's so townie!!" and now i'm like oh i see why
What do you think her alignment is?
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Post Post #571 (ISO) » Wed Jun 07, 2023 10:24 am

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In post 540, VP Baltar wrote: Xof, can I get your take on alisae's town read of you as well? You feel like that's a reasonable conclusion?
Yeah actually, it is pretty reasonable. Ali's probably the person in this game who has managed to play with present playstyle xof most. And other than the game Ali modded when i was in a hydra with Pine, I've been town in every single one of those games. So Ali is somebody who would know how I play and be reasonably sure that i'm not doing anything outside of my meta, and would notice if I was. I don't think it's something Ali would do, but i do also roll town at an unreasonable rate, so just assuming i've done so again is a safe bet that could be adjusted after as needed.
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Post Post #572 (ISO) » Wed Jun 07, 2023 10:25 am

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Post Post #574 (ISO) » Wed Jun 07, 2023 10:26 am

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