Open 105: Crush Mafia (Game Over) before 714

[TehVariable]

Ah, confirming. Sorry, I couldn't find the thread (Kept checking New York for some reason)

[TehVariable]

Vote Natirasha

Why would any one even vote for themselves ever? It's pretty much counterproductive and leaves no information.

[TehVariable]

Love how he left ortolan out of the ecuation for doing the same thing Nat did.

Oh...so he did.

Unvote, Vote ortolan

First one to do it logic? Then again, Natirasha's self vote was weirder...ah well, I like the logic of first.

Anyway, tajo, any other reason to real vote me beyond that oversight of mine?

[TehVariable]

Nat always self-votes himself. Whether it's productive or not can be debated, but he always does this, so it's never scummy.

Hmm...well...if he always does it...

And ortolan just changed his random vote, so we get that slight benefit.

Unvote

for now and we'll see what comes up.

Thanks for clarifying that, Crazy.

[TehVariable]

Oversight? Why did you prefer Nat's one? Did you know Nat often selfrandomvotes?

You should know what the word oversight means. I like to give people

some

credit. I only

noticed

Nat's self vote. I was unaware of him doing this often. Crazy elucidated this.

And why did you vote ortolan, random?

semi random, semi suspicious for the self vote, and the fact he did it first.

Right now, not really sure who to vote, though Darox voting no lynch looks weird. I want to see what he has to say about it.

[TehVariable]

TehVariable; Why Nat over ortolan's self vote?

You should know what the word oversight means. I like to give people some credit. I only noticed Nat's self vote.

[TehVariable]

TehVariable, why would the first person to random-vote be scummier than the second person to do so?

May I ask why you twisted what I did? Or should I assume that was a typo and you mean random vote self?

To the assumed question, it isn't really, it's just kinda guessing out of two equally scummy actions. I became more alright with my vote when it was established that Natirasha always self votes.

[TehVariable]

TV- sorry, I did mean random self-vote. You cited as a reason for voting Ortolan the fact that he self-voted first, and now you're saying that it isn't really scummy. So, can you clarify why you think he's scummy?

I don't think he's overly scummy. But there isn't much better out there at the time. Self voting in random phase deprives town of some information.

[TehVariable]

Changing your justification post-hoc like this looks scummy.

I can only say random vote phase

Also, can someone quote for me the set up question that seems to be causing a bandwagon?

[TehVariable]

You were no longer random-voting, as you'd given reasons for your vote (hence it not being "random")

That's arguable. The reasons were weak. It was a non random random, so to speak.

I don't think the set up question was scummy, but I'm leaning ortolan being the lyncher. This however:

We shouldn't be trying to lynch the lyncher. We should be trying to lynch the mafia. Obviously we need to keep an eye out for lyncher tells so we don't let them win the game, but aside from that we should ignore him and focus on finding the mafia, which are a much bigger threat.

Is precisely right. So even if ort is the lyncher, we shouldn't lynch him based on that.

[TehVariable]

Seems like a good way for scum to discount my opinions on who should be lynched.

Hmm? Wasn't even going for that. If it's actually well reasoned, then there's no reason not to listen. Because it would be more likely you weren't the lyncher. I'm hoping the lynchee doesn't make themselves an easy target though.

All I saw was people talking about the question. You pointing to each of them and saying they are scum for pointing it out.
Not everyone is scum.

this.

[TehVariable]

May I ask why you think farside and I are town populartajo?

I'm curious about this as well. I'm sorry for the low activity but there really hasn't been much to comment on except the ongoing argument about the set up question and whether calling someone a lyncher is scummy :S.

[TehVariable]

I apologize...I really can't get into this game. I think it would be best if I indeed replaced. I'm sorry about committing where I couldn't really follow up. I'll try to be more careful in the future.

So...

Mod, sorry...but could I be replaced?