Normal Idea Mafia (150/150 roles submitted, discussion thread up)

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Normal Idea Mafia

This is a player-submitted deck of roles which they'd like to play with.

The only caveat –– all roles submitted must follow Normal Guidelines for roles:

Spoiler: Normal

• The game should have at least one Mafia or Werewolf group (of at least two members). In mini games (at most 13 players), there must be exactly one such group, with no third parties. In large games (at least 14 players), a second anti-town group can be given a separate Mafia family name, or can be a Werewolf group, and there should be no more than two mafia/werewolf factions, and no more than one Serial Killer.
  
• The game must contain at least one Vanilla Townie (allowed names include: Townie, Vanilla Townie, Townsperson, Citizen). A sample Role PM for the Vanilla Townie must be included in the rules post.
  
  
  Mechanics which are explicitly Non-Normal include:
  
  
  
• Those affecting a role's alignment (no Cults)
  
• Anything which significantly affects the core mechanic of majority/plurality eliminations (no Kingmaker, for example)
  
• Anything resolving with a random element
  
• Post Restrictions (other than those included in the ruleset, such as "No quoting your Role PM").
  
• Lying to the players, including False Role Reveals and "Scum Masons"
  
• Night action redirection (no Bus Driver, Lightning Rod, Nexus, or Redirector)
  
• Returning "No Result" to Trackers who do not see their target go anywhere (in favor of "Your target did not visit anyone")
  
• Alignments other than Mafia/Werewolf, Pro-Town, and Serial Killer (no Survivor, Condemner, or Jester).
  
• Hydra accounts
  
• Differing kill flavor for different factions - everyone that dies at night should flip in the same way (e.g., "died during the night" or "was found dead")
  
  
  Mechanical changes which must be announced beforehand include:
  
  
• Open or Semi-Open setups
  
• Day phase deadlines shorter than 1 week or longer than 3 weeks
  
• Mafia may have daytalk without an Encryptor as long as it is announced in the game's rules beforehand.
  
• Unless stated otherwise in their rules, games should use Natural Action Resolution.
  
• Games must have a continous day/night cycle (e.g., no Nightless or Double Day)
  
• Mafia must specify which member is performing the factional kill each night. A mafia member may not both kill and use a power role in the same night by default.
  
  
  Roles
  
  
  
  Roles which are explicitly

  Normal

  for

  any alignment

  include:
  
  Alien, Babysitter, Bodyguard, Checker, Commuter, Sane Cop, Detective, Doctor, Encryptor, Finder, Follower, Fruit Vendor, Gunsmith, Hider, Jack-of-all-trades, Jailkeeper, Motion Detector, Mailman, Neapolitan, Neighbor, Neighborizer, Psychologist, PT Cop, Roleblocker, Role Cop, Rolestopper, Role Watcher, Tracker, Traffic Analyst, Universal Backup, Vanilla Cop, Visitor, Voyeur, Watcher
  
  
  Roles which are explicitly

  Normal

  for

  Town

  only include:
  
  Vanilla Townie, Friendly Neighbor, Innocent Child, Mason, Miller, Vigilante, Vengeful, any roles listed as "for any alignment"
  
  
  Roles which are explicitly

  Normal

  for

  Mafia

  only include:
  
  Mafia Goon, Strongman, Traitor, any roles listed as "for any alignment"
  
  
  Roles which are explicitly

  Normal

  for

  Serial Killer

  only include:
  
  Serial Killer, Strongman, any roles listed as "for any alignment"
  
  
  Modifiers which are explicitly

  Normal

  for

  any alignment

  include:
  
  Activated, Announcing, Ascetic, Backup (with or without primary role present), Bulletproof, Combined, Complex, Compulsive, Disloyal, Enabler (with or without primary role present), Indecisive, Informed, Lazy, Loud, Loyal, Macho, Multitasking, Neighbor, Ninja, Non-Consecutive Night, Personal, Roaming, Simple, Weak, X-Shot, any modifier restricting to a specific set of nights (e.g. Even/Odd Night, Night Specific, Novice)
  
  
  Roles which are explicitly

  Non-Normal

  include:
  
  Non-Sane Cop, Blank Vig, Non-Sane or Quack Doctor, Janitor, Survivor, Condemner, Cultist, Jester, Mafia Mason, Bus Driver, Lightning Rod, Nexus, Redirector, Framer, Vanillaiser, Beloved Princess, Arsonist, Governor, Godfather
  Modifiers which are explicitly Non-Normal include:
  Delayed, Percentage

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This deck will also only permit the following distribution of alignments:

50 Town

15 Mafia

15 Werewolves

5 Serial Killer

, which has been filled

15 Free Spaces

When creating a NIM setup, a moderator should plan out their distribution of alignments, and then randomly select roles from each alignment to fulfill said requirements. Post #0 should never be randed.

You could roll percentile dice to pick out the posts if you wanted.

We're expanding, though, so not anymore.

CURRENT SLOTS REMAINING

As of

Post 98

0 Town

0 Mafia

0 Werewolves

0 Serial Killer

2 Free Spaces

[Cook]

Vanilla Townie

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If you wish to separate something from the role PM, place it under

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and then we'll know you don't want that as part of the role PM.

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Werewolf Traitor Role Cop

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Serial Killer Fruit Vendor

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This thread has been locked to promote fewer collaborative decks in Mafia Discussion. I'm doing my part.

Jul 2023 update: Site died down a bit. Have fun.

[Cook]

Town Encryptor-Enabler

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Town 3-Shot Loyal Neighborizer

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Town Doctor

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Town Fruit Vendor

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We will probably have to have a talk once the deck is finished about normalcy. Granted, this is not necessarily Balanced Idea Mafia, but a few things here are worth discussing.

I will ask, should this be bumped up to 150 roles? Or is 100 just fine?

[Cook]

Mafia Traitor Personal Rolestopper

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The thing I'm torn about is that GIM is by its nature a deck of zanier roles, and this deck's conceit is to put a submission restriction on what you can put into it. At the same time, Normalcy is both a "what is

technically

normal and what is actually 'normal' to play with".

Like, the Werewolf super big enabler is essentially a vanillaizer for the entire game. So that's both a case of "oh, neat, it has an emergent part of it". But then there's the wolf with all the multitasking of everything, which absolutely wouldn't pass Normal inspection. Yet, it's Normal.

So I'm not sure.

[Cook]

Serial Killer Jack-of-all-Trades

(with Role Cop, Rolestopper, and Traffic Analyst shots)

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I'll expand this into a 150-card deck once we hit 100. I'll see about 200 if the thread keeps going after we break 100.

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This post has been edited to bring it into line with the latest update to the Normal guidelines, in which the multitasking modifier was removed. This role may no longer multitask unless the inherent multitasking mechanic is enabled for the game.

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Town 1-Shot Bulletproof

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Gonna run some stats on what's been introduced so far, to see what would be good for the deck going forward.

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Town Mason

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I'll update the OP shortly, but for the next 50 roles...

distribution

20

Town

10

Mafia

10

Werewolves

5

Serial Killers

5

Free Spaces

[Cook]

Town 2-Shot Doctor

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I would co-mod or backup mod a game of this, but not as the primary moderator, owing to my restrictions.

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Mafia Neighbor

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We're going to have to errata several roles which are less-than-Normal, I think.

If someone could help find the non-Normal roles, I will propose errata for them.

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Town Backup Cop

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Earl is not normal. It will be changed to something else in errata. Backup Friendly Neighbor?

[Cook]

Town Mason

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14p, 3 of a random scum faction + 1 SK could work

17p, 3 maf 3 wolf + sk also maybe? or does town lose maj too fast there

[Cook]

Mafia Informed Cop

You know the identity of one non-investigative, non-protective role, or the absence thereof. This player is guaranteed to not be a member of the

Mafia

.

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Someone else (alianna?) offered to host. I'll comod on it.

[Cook]

Town Ascetic Miller 2-Shot Vigilante

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I am now

locking

this thread to tally things up. viewtopic.php?t=91226 Continue the discussion here <----

[Cook]

I have issued errata for a few roles.

[Cook]

Issuing further errata to comply with recent Normal guideline updates.

As of current:
- Multitasking has been split into "Inherent Multitasking" (a property of scum players to be able to use personal and factional abilities in the same night) and Simultaneous (a modifier which allows a player to use multiple personal abilities in the same night).

To do:
- Apply name changes to certain roles which were renamed in the Normal Guidelines Update.

Edit: name changes are done, still need to finish updating the multitasking ---> simultaneous stuff. - Alianna

Edit 2: should all be done. - Alianna