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Post Post #4 (isolation #0) » Tue Aug 29, 2023 6:54 pm

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In post 3, DkKoba wrote: Town sided vibes will think on it
Absolutely agree.
I know NRG likes to townside games so I brought this initial setup into review with that in mind. Wolves don’t have a lot going for them immediately and even have a traitor while village has a lot of ways to confirm other villagers and if the wrong wolf flips at the wrong time it could be disaster for wolves. It’s pretty swingy.
I think the first step would probably be applying gates onto the TA. Novice and Lazy are good modifiers that can go onto it.
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Post Post #5 (isolation #1) » Tue Aug 29, 2023 6:59 pm

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The TA is probably the only role that is reasonably not being hanged so axing it is also something I’m considering. Either way I think that role is the first role to adjust here.
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Post Post #6 (isolation #2) » Tue Aug 29, 2023 7:02 pm

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It’s probably also townsided based on the skill floor for wolves being quite high I think? These are not easy wolf roles to play.
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Post Post #10 (isolation #3) » Tue Aug 29, 2023 7:52 pm

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In post 8, RadiantCowbells wrote: I can propose something if you don't have a change in mind but I think this is too strong for town
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Post Post #11 (isolation #4) » Tue Aug 29, 2023 8:05 pm

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the ideas I had in my head was adjusting the TA but I am open to any suggestions
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Post Post #13 (isolation #5) » Wed Aug 30, 2023 9:33 am

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What happens if we remove the TA
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Post Post #16 (isolation #6) » Thu Aug 31, 2023 6:40 am

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okay great ya that makes me feel better about the setup!
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Post Post #17 (isolation #7) » Thu Aug 31, 2023 6:40 am

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I'm curious what your proposition was though
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Post Post #18 (isolation #8) » Thu Aug 31, 2023 6:40 am

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it might work better
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Post Post #20 (isolation #9) » Thu Aug 31, 2023 10:13 am

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In post 19, RadiantCowbells wrote: That but maybe give the joat one shot of something good
a 4th ability?
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Post Post #21 (isolation #10) » Thu Aug 31, 2023 10:24 am

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unless I wanted to put like a cop or a roleblock shot on it I think the most stand out thing to me would be a follower?

Idunno, I think this setup being scumsided is ok?
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Post Post #22 (isolation #11) » Thu Aug 31, 2023 10:35 am

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o wait game rules say mafia has a cop.
giving that joat a cop shot is funny then
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Post Post #23 (isolation #12) » Thu Aug 31, 2023 10:41 am

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tho that probably doesn't work out in practice I think :(
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Post Post #24 (isolation #13) » Thu Aug 31, 2023 10:44 am

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wait no maybe.
miller perspective is interesting because if they're not sure they can try to solve the joat in hood
joat perspective is they're town, would they know if their miller hood partner is town or not? they both know that there is a traitor in the setup idunno I can't predict this right now
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Post Post #26 (isolation #14) » Sun Sep 03, 2023 11:14 am

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In post 25, DkKoba wrote: bump will look soon again

do u have a revised setup or would u like direct suggestion
TA gone
Maybe the most as a cop shot as a 4th ability but probably not
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Post Post #30 (isolation #15) » Tue Sep 05, 2023 6:18 am

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ya ok i think I just want to remove the TA and not give town any additional power
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Post Post #32 (isolation #16) » Thu Sep 07, 2023 3:41 pm

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In post 31, DkKoba wrote: can you write the setup out fully
Notable Game Rules:
It is in the rules that the mafia have a cop.
Daytalk is disabled for mafia. I am unsure on if I want to advertise this or not.


mafia backup mailman
mafia disloyal neighborizer
mafia Informed (backup)* cop traitor

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town 2 masons
town mailman
town Informed Neighbor A JOAT w/ Tracker, PT Cop, Traitor-Finder
town Informed Neighbor A Miller
4 VTs.


Traitor Information: They know that there is an informed neighbor miller in the game and their neighborhood is aware of your existence. Also, there are 2 masons.**

Neighbor A (JOAT + Miller) Information: There is a traitor in the game.

*the cop technically doesn't have to be backup. Backup cop is funny when you announce the mafia has a cop but making it not backup means it can look for the miller. Idunno if I like regular cop or backup cop better. Right now I lean towards backup because like, yes, regular cop lets the traitor find miller, but miller is likely claiming and they don't really want to actually do that or act at all. They know who their mafia partners are so...

** idunno how having both neighbors informed of the traitor and telling the traitor that works while making both neighbors not know that they both know there is a traitor without them telling each other.
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Post Post #34 (isolation #17) » Thu Sep 07, 2023 4:01 pm

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i need role pms :(
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Post Post #36 (isolation #18) » Thu Sep 07, 2023 4:29 pm

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ugggggggggh fiiiiiiiine
i will copy paste some pms without formatting
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Post Post #37 (isolation #19) » Thu Sep 07, 2023 4:37 pm

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o wait I can't c/p.

Well I need to actually have time to sit down and write the pms and I kind of don't have that right now...
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Post Post #40 (isolation #20) » Sat Sep 09, 2023 10:30 am

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Oh no I brought shame upon the group and destroyed ur faith in humanity??????
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Post Post #42 (isolation #21) » Sat Sep 23, 2023 12:24 am

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Ya I still haven't gotten a chance to write pms
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Post Post #43 (isolation #22) » Sat Sep 23, 2023 12:26 am

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I would appreciate help tbh.
I can do formatting for everything just role text I need help with
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Post Post #45 (isolation #23) » Sat Sep 23, 2023 12:46 am

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that would be very helpful thank you!
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Post Post #47 (isolation #24) » Sat Sep 23, 2023 1:31 am

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this is a really huge help ty so much
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Post Post #48 (isolation #25) » Sat Sep 23, 2023 1:31 am

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congrats on your new position btw
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Post Post #50 (isolation #26) » Sat Sep 23, 2023 2:46 am

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In post 49, Ausuka wrote: it's ok! i mostly just copied + pasted relevant portions of other role pms i made earlier

and thanks :]

to be clear, even though this was written by me, i'd still like koba and rc to pass the role pms. i do make mistakes sometimes. well. maybe more than sometimes
traitor information isn't in the traitor pm
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Post Post #51 (isolation #27) » Sat Sep 23, 2023 2:47 am

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mafia do not have daytalk so they cannot talk to each other at any time
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Post Post #53 (isolation #28) » Sat Sep 23, 2023 3:00 am

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Ya I made that decision because supply of day talk games is high so running a game without daytalk I thought would be interesting.
I also think there are wolf teams that really don't make of daytalk.
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Post Post #62 (isolation #29) » Sun Sep 24, 2023 6:11 am

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Ausuka do you think the setup is appropriate to advertise as complex and if so can u do that?
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Post Post #65 (isolation #30) » Mon Sep 25, 2023 7:00 pm

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just saw in the traitor pm that they also are supposed to know about the existence of masons but that's not in the pm
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Post Post #66 (isolation #31) » Mon Sep 25, 2023 7:01 pm

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existence of 2 masons

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