secret hitler III ~2pm EST [7/7]

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The first step is to panic and run around throwing things

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Is this the Krusty Krab

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There is on occasion winrate to be gained while in HZ from playing a red card to take a shot

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Essentially the situation where you drop a blue is when you're in HZ and you're fully resigned to two players liberal and you want to reduce to 5p so that those two players can continually play governments with each other

There is also some controversy that it is in fact sometimes okay to as lib give someone an RB instead of BB when you have RBB. Do not do this

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Uh 6/11

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Cook I have a lot of liberal reads in the vocal players and your one contribution to the game is to preemptively justify people claiming 3f rolls

How do you think I should feel about that

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Btw one of the biggest things to keep in mind in this game is that the dialogue is like a mafia game in LyLo, from your point of view every player has a 50% chance to be fascist and if you have only one liberal read then if it's presumed correct then 60% odds for other players to be scum

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I'm not gonna lie I thought I was in the player 2 slot

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That's quite a strong preference Firebringer

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I mean it's early but I'm like 98% sure STD isn't a liberal, him in this game vs him last game is night and day

I also have a hero tonwnread on a low content player but I don't really want to replay last game

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So I'm curious Fire why your top two townreads are STD and Ceph when STD doesn't sound great and is mathematically the most fascist player on the table from anyone's pov

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Squint

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This is a game of probabilities

You can override the mathematical logic if you have a strong read but fully denying it as a meaningful data point is not a good way to play

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I think solving me is the absolute least useful thing anyone at the table can do right now

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I think bianco is almost certainly one fascist or at least sounds really bad

I'm highly inclined to believe that you are lib CSF

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Well I lost the post I wanted to make @Firebringer

I'm not gonna call you wrong right now but generally having the highest charisma players in the game as lib is not a good sign

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hm, why did std nein that

This is extremely performative and I take back all my other scumreads, I really don't think cook is liberal this game

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I actually don't think bianco posting is that bad

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Bianco is kind of ok

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I'm actually not sure why I fasced them originally

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Am I going for Meuh round two

Surely not right

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I am very undecided on ceph

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I'll say this right now

I have not given invest in any line in SH since like 2020

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I consider giving invest to be tantamount to gamethrowing in nearly any situation and the situation where I would give invest involves it being like 3 or 4b on table

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Go invest Firebringer

If you invest Firebringer liberal I will believe you and se him

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We are looking for a liberal invest that table can agree on

There is no purpose investing cook bc if chandra invests cook fascist it means nothing and if chandra invests cook lib I am not seing them

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I'll say this right now

I have not given invest in any line in SH since like 2020

I consider giving invest to be tantamount to gamethrowing in nearly any situation and the situation where I would give invest involves it being like 3 or 4b on table

can you use different words to ewxplain this? i dont understand what youre talking about.

I am saying that I am never ever ever playing a red card if you gave me RB as lib

You did not conflict me so it is no longer relevant

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Why aren't ceph and cook two fasc?

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I don't think firebringer and ceph are two fascists so if Ceph invests Firebringer liberal game is in a good position assuming I'm right and if Ceph invests Firebringer fascist it tells me a lot about the game given that if Ceph is lib and Fire is fascist fire actively pushed the nomination onto me which means his seat combos as fascist are limited

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I also think if Cephrir invests me liberal it's really easy for scum to push double drop on 37 so it's not really useful but ceph RC fire is a line to no one at table

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No I shower every other Tuesday whether I need it or not

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You are correct I have zero desire to be investigated by you

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I don't want to be inv lib and I don't want you to be able to conflict me

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Ok sure

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I am letting fire have a gov, sorry bianco

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I am letting fire have a gov, sorry bianco

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Ah yes the classic multiposting

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Yeah but we nein to you and you get it this round

Which is most best

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I mean there's 0 reason to ja this over Firebringer pres

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Because Firebringer president gets to see the deck which is way more important here

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I actually think you're balance of probabilities liberal bianco but

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It's really important to know exactly what the composition of the rest of the deck is so we can gauge the likelihood of there having been drops in previous govs

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I suggest you pick bianco here but I wish you luck with whatever selection you make

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Theoretically you should have high odds of BB anyway

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Picking STD is always a mistake because if he's lib the deck is b heavy so you can force anyway and we need to see the deck to assess his odds of having dropped

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Technically even picking a lib pres is kinda bad because CSF can have dropped too and I like Bianco

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Like, you want to pick people who have not had chances to drop here

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Ok sure

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3B deck

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I nominate myself for person who gets to see the remainder of the deck pick me pick me

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You aren't coming up

It's in cook RC STD

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The potential president options

My read that cook is highly likely Poe mafia hasn't changed and I think I'm a better president objectively than STD in this position so

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Ceph I'm mildly concerned that you seem to think it's better to SE someone who isn't your invested liberal over someone who is

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like there's logic to the idea that you just wouldn't say that as scum but on the other hand I don't know why you would say that as lib in a 3b deck

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And CSF is lib enough for you to want that over something else why

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Ok well I have an addiction to hero playing so I'll just keep doing it and if I'm wrong I think we will still win somehow

Nom: Bianco

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CSF what do you think?

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CSF you realize half the other players are fascist if you're lib yeah?

Who exactly are you looking to for direction

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You think Chandra picked blue to go deep, RC?

I think Chandra is not conflicting and giving invest ever

Statistically he is the most fascist player as inv taker on 3b deck. Is he fascist? I don't know but I don't think Fire is so I have no reason to get in any sort of conflict with him

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She sorry

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2f1l

4b deck

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No two cards get left over unless you td TD to see deck

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10% chance those cards are bb btw

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pretty sure passing a lib when i had a choice makes me less statistically fascist than at least std

and im kind of worried by what feels like a buildup to pushing me in the future. im not really buying the belief that it's outlandish for me to suggest SEing csf or myself

I really don't know why you would be that concerned about me being a hypothetical fasc when I've agreed that your confirmed lib is a confirmed lib

I don't have a reason to tonwnread you and you have above average odds of being scum fmpov but I'm not interested in pushing you because it serves zero purpose

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Are you going to call STD scum on the 4b deck? Do you think I underclaimed when I can out lib like crazy forcing there? I am not playing for 10% probability someone dropped a blue and 2/3 of the potential droppers are in you and the person you said should be se'd over your Inv liberal. Do you think I shouldn't comment on that?

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Well sure there could be

Why does the same not apply from me to you, why do you not have Hitler equity fmpov?

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I'm truly not understanding from your point of view why you think this is worth litigating at the present time

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I mean you have a right to be but

This really isn't useful right now, we are strategically allies and if I'm fascist I'd vastly prefer to just conflict you and then you look like total garbage as inv taker on 4b deck

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I think just go with Firebringer

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Let's not vote for a brief moment

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Deck is already shuffled, time to TD was after third gov but I wasn't enthused with td in this board state

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I think as a table we have to soft resign to one person in CSF Chandra being liberal and I'm still thinking about who that is

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Topdeck

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Yeah honestly I don't think that csf knows to underclaim as fascist

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So the question is if CSF Hitler ever just doesn't take invest

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Ok sure

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Ok sure

Just go fire -> ceph and if he outs on cucu I know all 3 fascists

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She smdndj

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that doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me

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if we play fire -> chandra and Chandra drops we know she is exactly hitler and the game is basically solved from there

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obviously if she is lib we just win

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Did I miss cards

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Claim cards

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What if i get 3 F cards tho

That sounds like a skill issue

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Oh

Well that is pretty trashy tbh

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Well on rbb there's only 1b in 9 so

that's not quite what was planned but picking ceph is still sorta optimal because if she's fasc she's Hitler a sufficiently large amount of the time that we don't need to worry as much about winning cards on conflict

I also accept myself as an option yk yk

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So then you should be wondering what the difference is fmpov if you're paying careful attention

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that doesn't sound very random

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Let's see how you handle our new ships

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Conflict?

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Ok well

TD isn't a play in 3R and I strongly believe that I should be SE

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And not just for me being me I am just logically extremely lib to everyone

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Well Firebringer

I don't think CSF necessarily drops on 2nd gov and forcing BB means nothing for them being lib

I can't stop you if that's what you're gonna do though

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Why?

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Don't think about chancellor think about pres

Hitler heil is just unlucky and you can't do much to prevent

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Firebringer I don't think they know to drop on 2nd gov and they are playing blue in every other gov by force

I'm not saying they can't be liberal but I know I am liberal and I don't think you've ever seriously considered me as a candidate and that's a problem

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Like it's felt like you have had me low grade scum the whole game and I'm not really sure what to do about it

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Also I'm gonna point out

Not a single player is supporting me nom

Ceph CSF STD logically contains scum.fypov and not one of them has been pro me this entire game

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Well that's not the way I like to be told that but ok

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Firebringer is not selectable

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Funny how that works

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Ok well I gave my input I'm not going to keep fighting for the nom, I hope you r picking a lib

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I am fine with RC being selected as chancellor but that is kind of a moot point.
I have to be very confident that RC isn't hitler to select him as prez and im not 100% there

I truly don't think you understand how this works

Do not think about Hitler: look for a liberal and se the liberal or you give fasc gun

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I am fine with RC being selected as chancellor but that is kind of a moot point.
I have to be very confident that RC isn't hitler to select him as prez and im not 100% there

I truly don't think you understand how this works

Do not think about Hitler: look for a liberal and se the liberal or you give fasc gun

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Statistically only 1/3 of fascists are a problem if they r chanc and you can't really do much to prevent heil

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Chandra I unironically don't think you can be lib saying oof there

What fasc role am I to you suggesting you for 5b gov before I know it's a 2b deck? That play works fine for me as lib because I can just shoot you if you're hitty, why do you think that is my choice of play as fascist instead of trying to get picked and conflict fire?

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I'm really inclined to just pick CSF and be mad at everyone else if it heils given everyone has had them omega town this entire game

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Ceph is tl

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Ok sure let's go

Nom: CSF

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Btw I'm like 99% sure this heils with the chat

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But let's just go

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Datisi your nose is in imminent danger

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3f no drop from csf

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Firebringer I'm waiting for u

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We have to talk about shot

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I'm respecting U enough not to shoot ceph even tho I think she is a very very likely Hitler in this game so I want to know who else you think should go

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I don't trust I

I'm asking for ur opinion

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I'm not shooting you ceph

I would if I didn't omega grief yesterday

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I'm just gonna quickly reread cook ISO

Cook do you have anything to say

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Hey bianco I was townreading U forever and you vanished from the game

Got something to say here?

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Ok STD I hear you and I think that's accurate from your pov

But for your consideration I think I will get blamed if I shoot ceph and am wrong

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These are pepega chats bianco

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Oh my god I can cringestall with gun for hours and no one is gonna flame me

This is so liberating

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Bianco who would you shoot if u had gun

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Ok well

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Aaaaaaaaa

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X2000000

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Man

I wish when I had the self confidence to do whatever I wanted

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shoot cook

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I have a headache now

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Am I passing again?

If not, what's the plan?

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Ok fire states ja so Cephrir jas

Anyone want to propose anything else? I'm ok with 3v3 test if necessary if it's CSF pres of the 3 people in range

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Well STD if I don't pass then we know I shot wrong

I just... can't find a fascist line without cook

It would have to be like ceph spino CSF and I don't like csf as fasc non Hitler and I don't like ceph as that either

Maybe some sort of line where Firebringer is scum but that feels so off in my mind

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why not have me as chancellor aren't i confirmed liberal or something

I mean the question is

Do people ja

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I don't know like if Firebringer is scum and I just giga griefed the game I don't understand why Ceph is starting shit with me all game like it's not a real way to play that position

I don't like Firebringer scum

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Nom: Firebringer

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Yeah I mean Cephrir is liberal or Hitler only which is why I don't really want to shoot

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Yo what in the fucking world is this game

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Hello???

So what did CSF get 3b or did U drop fire

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Hello???

So what did CSF get 3b or did U drop fire

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No blue card and I haven't shot anyone

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No I don't love slowrolling

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CSF did you really have 3b you mad lad

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BRO I AM NOT SLOWROLLING

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3F 3F

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Stop bullying me bringer of fire

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Fire if ur lib then CSF is a fascist who got 3b

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And the game is like

insane level of deck troll

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Are you really hitty testing me

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Who do you claim fasc with

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Go on then

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Yo albino is hitty testing me relax

I honestly think that's a lib out though

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Okok I buy

shoot Cephrir

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Just heil me gogo

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Datisi is dotting is and crossing ts because theoretically Hitlers have lost the game for their team in HZ before

Just nom me

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radiantcowbells is term limited.

Incorrect

I can be chanc in 5p

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radiantcowbells is term limited.

Incorrect

I can be chanc in 5p

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Datisi once it's 5p TL only applies to roles

I can be chanc just not pres

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CSF did you drop on your gov

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Also just drop on my gov and create 3b deck btw

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Did you get RRB or RBB

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Did you get RRB or RBB

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gg

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Yeah just drop the B and take inv

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Worked out fine tho

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Libs got unlucky deck

Although tbh RBB second deck is tragic for us too

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wb RC it's good to see you again

i irrationally think this post is a wave to hitler

it wasn't irrational. it was very rational
I died a little inside when I read this

I thought this was the case

That's why I waited to res you

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nice playing with all of you ms people again, I hope everyone had fun

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hot.

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I mean we played for 66% winrate which isn't bad as fasc I guess?

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but still this could easily have been lib win with better deck