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Post Post #1450 (ISO) » Thu Sep 14, 2023 8:13 pm

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Also I wished they talked about Meuh and Guiltylion
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Post Post #1451 (ISO) » Thu Sep 14, 2023 8:17 pm

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So I guess I'd say it's scummy
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Post Post #1452 (ISO) » Fri Sep 15, 2023 2:36 am

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In post 1448, Dunnstral wrote:
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In post 1404, Lukewarm wrote: Something in my brain wants to claim that scum!Meuh would be more likely to remember the situation she was in when she made the mind meld claim- because the current state of the thread would likely influenced her course of action

While town!meuh would more easily mix up the time line - because (1)her explaining why she said she mind melded with RH and (2) her wagon forming, would be 2 non-intrinsically linked events that happened in her mind.

(I also don't think that scum!meuh would choose to out and out lie about the order of events)

I don't actually know how much stock I am putting into that take, but it was my first reaction to seeing it her realize that she had the timeline wrong.
When she voted for RH9, she posted:
In post 1332, Meuh wrote: VOTE: RH9 I'd rather not die


Doesn't this mean that her vote on RH9 was due to not wanting to be voted out instead of because they started scumreading RH9?
Her vote was not inclucded in my thought.
I was talking about her misremembering the timeline between her wagon forming, and her making . (Which is not a one and done post, but required her to go through RH's iso)

Like the reality of it was, she made 1319 while while she had 1 vote, and RH had just hit e-1. Then her wagon formed. Then she voted RH for survival.

But when she recounted it in 1387, she seemed to think that she was already at e-1 when she wrote 1319.
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Post Post #1453 (ISO) » Fri Sep 15, 2023 2:47 am

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In post 1440, Lukewarm wrote: @Dunn, Cakez, and GL -- thoughts on Ali's catch up?
Not great. The push on Pooky feels really weird in particular like I don't think anybody else thinks he's scum.
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Post Post #1454 (ISO) » Fri Sep 15, 2023 3:08 am

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In post 1453, SirCakez wrote: The push on Pooky feels really weird in particular like I don't think anybody else thinks he's scum.
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Post Post #1455 (ISO) » Fri Sep 15, 2023 3:09 am

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why does that matter lol
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Post Post #1456 (ISO) » Fri Sep 15, 2023 3:09 am

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i read the game and I think pooky is mafia why does anyone thinking he is a wolf matters
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Post Post #1457 (ISO) » Fri Sep 15, 2023 3:09 am

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he isn't*
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Post Post #1458 (ISO) » Fri Sep 15, 2023 3:10 am

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I read the game and I deduced that pooky is mafia and leading the village towards a mafia victory what more do u want from me lol
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Post Post #1459 (ISO) » Fri Sep 15, 2023 3:18 am

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What alignment do u think forms opinions that are unique and that literally nobody shares Cakez?
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Post Post #1460 (ISO) » Fri Sep 15, 2023 6:24 am

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In post 1447, Dunnstral wrote: SirCakez is potentially looking at the game like this:

One mafia in Dunn/Luke/Pooky/Meuh

One mafia in RH9/Guiltylion

And they suspect both RH9 and Guiltylion, but townread Dunn, Luke, and Pooky


My issue, is that if that is his view of the game -- why was he not saying that Meuh was the correct choice when he wrote , and why did he say he was down for the RH elim in .

Nothing about RH and GL being the vt claims, and Meuh being a Miller claim changed between writing those and him switching to pushing for the Meuh elim.

Like, the whole thing that I find suspicious, is that when RH looked inevitable, he was on the wagon, and when he stopped looking like the inevitable elim, his position shifted to Meuh being The Correct Choice. Not the actual stance.
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Post Post #1461 (ISO) » Fri Sep 15, 2023 10:13 am

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Vote Count 2.3


In 1800, the entire Federal government moved from Philadelphia to Washington DC, including the Supreme Court. Unfortunately, no accommodations for SCOTUS had been built or planned. So, Congress lent the Court space in the new Capitol Building.


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Lukewarm (1289), Meuh (1332), PookyTheMagicalBear (1433)
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Dunnstral (1303), SirCakez (1330)
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GuiltyLion (1350)


With 7 players alive, it takes 4 votes to eliminate.

No elimination has been achieved. The Day 1 deadline is in (expired on 2023-09-19 12:30:00).


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Post Post #1462 (ISO) » Fri Sep 15, 2023 1:29 pm

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Cmon guys get to voting!!
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Post Post #1463 (ISO) » Fri Sep 15, 2023 1:29 pm

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In post 1354, SirCakez wrote: I wish we would hammer I don't think there's much more solving to be done here without a flip
Cakez like you thought here, isn't the idea of getting a flip here sooooooo nice? You can put someone on E-1!!
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Post Post #1464 (ISO) » Fri Sep 15, 2023 2:59 pm

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In post 1463, Meuh wrote:
In post 1354, SirCakez wrote: I wish we would hammer I don't think there's much more solving to be done here without a flip
Cakez like you thought here, isn't the idea of getting a flip here sooooooo nice? You can put someone on E-1!!
what r u talking about who can cakez put on e-1
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Post Post #1465 (ISO) » Fri Sep 15, 2023 6:46 pm

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close to hammering alisaee
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Post Post #1466 (ISO) » Fri Sep 15, 2023 7:03 pm

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UNVOTE:

i dont feel good about this anymore

luke r u sure you want this
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Post Post #1467 (ISO) » Fri Sep 15, 2023 7:04 pm

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okay then can we kill Meuh pls
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Post Post #1468 (ISO) » Fri Sep 15, 2023 7:04 pm

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like guiltylion ghosting us

cakeboi salivating

alisae making less sense than a drunk chicken

nothing is adding up

and I feel bad about scumreading my cat even if RH9 decided to commit like eleven different scumtells in 3 hours and then say peace out
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Post Post #1469 (ISO) » Fri Sep 15, 2023 7:05 pm

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we got three days chill homie

i wanna talk to my boy luke and try to get this right cuz his ass aint gonna be alive tomm probly
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Post Post #1470 (ISO) » Fri Sep 15, 2023 7:48 pm

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I'm not ghosting keep your pants on

I've read through and I'm trying to chew on Luke's argument for limming RH9 and whether it's Ali/Cakez or a non-Ali team, cause I don't think Ali/Meuh makes sense. and I agree with Dunn's point too that there's no way it's Ali/Dunn

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Post Post #1471 (ISO) » Fri Sep 15, 2023 8:23 pm

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In post 1368, Lukewarm wrote: Quietly hoping that the wagon will lose steam on its own is not all that uncommon for scum to do imo.
as a general rule I disagree with this because I think scum usually feel pressured to Have a Stance on their partner as they understand people are gonna be going back and looking at people's reads on the flipped scum. if Meuh is doing buddies with RH9 here she was keeping him in a very null-y tier:
In post 1257, Meuh wrote: I think Pooky flips scum more than RH9 at this point, but I probably should give a closer look to his ISO.
In post 1259, Meuh wrote: Dunn > GL > Pooky > RH9 > Cakez > Lukewarm
My lim preference at the moment
I guess it's possible she's just trying to coast and skate by without a firm read on her buddy but I am not sensing a real agenda positioning around an upcoming incriminating flip. she was advocating (somewhat strongly) that Dunn/I were the scum team and in the RH9/Meuh world that theory would be immediately dead when either of us green flipped.

I think the Meuh/Dunn interactions are much more likely to be S-S given how decisively Meuh was pushing Dunn earlier yet how much that's tapered off (despite her still claiming to scumread him).

and if Dunn is scum then chaining me to him makes sense too
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Post Post #1472 (ISO) » Fri Sep 15, 2023 8:30 pm

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In post 1369, Lukewarm wrote: I think that I am committing to the idea that RH is the better elim.

The transition from RH e-1, to Meuh e-1 was too smooth and easy. Not a hint of resistance from anyone but me - actually, every single one of the potential Meuh partners happily encouraging the Meuh elim > the RH elim.

That transition feels like the scum team either:
-Does not care which one goes over because both are town.
-Prefer the Meuh elim, beacuse Meuh is town.
-Is exactly Meuh+RH, and therefore could not influence the transition basically at all.

None of those worlds have scum meuh / town RH, which makes me think that RH/Ali is the more correct play.
adding onto Meuh/Dunn theory, then this would mean Dunn playing around his current good standing + a Meuh bus would be enough to ride through to a win. also there'd still be an option for RH9 to get limmed first, he may not have even fully expected that Cakez and I would both jump onto his wagon, he floated going back to RH9 before Cakez switched soon after
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Post Post #1473 (ISO) » Fri Sep 15, 2023 8:34 pm

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In post 1390, Dunnstral wrote: Well there's an hour between those two posts. If we were mafia together I'd like to think we'd be talking with each other after their 2 vt slip and come up with something better than 1097, which is in response to my post and looks bad for them.


referenced this a few posts ago but wanted to specifically add that regardless of Dunn's alignment, I think this is true. would be a completely unforced error and I think RH9 as scum with Dunn would 100% post in the PT first prior to responding in main thread, especially if he's unsure what to do
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Post Post #1474 (ISO) » Fri Sep 15, 2023 8:39 pm

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In post 1395, Lukewarm wrote: I am not understanding how cakez got from here, to arguing that Meuh is the definitively better elim.
on this (and the bigger post immediately prior)

I see where you are coming from and there's certainly a world where you're onto this and it's scum indicative, but Cakez is frequently a mercurial player and it's not hard for me to imagine him doing this as town either. I think you're also overstating the extent to which he was really arguing Meuh was definitively better

a lot of his ISO made more sense to me again when I reread it thinking PR=miller whenever he talks about setup speculation, he's been pretty consistent throughout that he thinks Meuh is a good bet for scum
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