Mind Screw Mafia 3 (OVER)

[forbiddanlight]

Vote Tarhalindur

FoS Tarhalindur

Beyond my meta, this is a very smart thing to do

Also, this time I've got Alice's note.

The mod is a player in this game.

[forbiddanlight]

Didnt' you die doing that last time?

No, actually, I died because I posted within the first 17 posts. If 17 posts had passed before I did that, I also would have died. Essentially, I just wanted to misdirect people so if they decided to lynch Tar I wouldn't get lynched (Wasn't sure if votes for Tar counted as votes for me)

MS 1, Tarhalindur was a role in the game
MS 2, Tarhalindur was both a role in the game and he was a player (Chairman Mao). I think he was town aligned though, or at least self aligned
MS 3. I would not be surprised if Tarhalindur were scum.

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did it specifically say "the mod is a player in the game"?
if you can, please write exactly how it was given to you.
i'm just curious on this subject because I received the role w/ alice's note last game and i know there's a lot of trickery involved in it.

I said what I read. But the phrasing could mean anything, just like it did in the other games.

[forbiddanlight]

Tarhalindur (3) - forbiddanlight, populartajo

3 for Tar with 2 votes?

in MS 2, the role name Tarhalindur was also a role (NatirashaSK)

That's what I meant. Tar's role was Bastard modgod

1) Forbiddanlight (2)

1) forbiddanlight (1)

My FoS count changed

Fos populartajo

Testing.

[forbiddanlight]

Always wanted to do this while playing

"We do not destroy the heretic because he resists us: so long as he resists us we never destroy him. We convert him, we capture his inner mind, we reshape him. We burn all evil and all illusion out of him; we bring him over to our side, not in appearance, but genuinely, heart and soul. We make him one of ourselves before we kill him."

No idea. Anyone get this reference? (His references tend to relate to role sources in the game, and it's also fun to guess)

(aka the "Mysterious Votes?" Vote Count)

Mod Super Hint

"And you don't seem to understand...
and you seemed like an honest man..."

Duvet, Serial Experiments Lain opening

(aka the "Not This Time..." Vote Count)

Mod Hint?

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forbiddan can you write in who you're quoting?
sorry if it's just me, but it is MUCH easier to read and follow the game that way

I'll try, but don't expect me to remember all the time.

FL just lost a FOS and somehow transmited it to Tarh.

I don't think that's what happened, but we'll see.

[forbiddanlight]

forbiddanlight seems really interested in the set up...while that's ok for now, if it continues it might be suspicious. I have skimmed the first two mind screws, but didn't get too in depth.

Umu...this is kinda expected in Mind Screw...and I suggest you read them more in depth to get a better idea of things.

I'm already confused.

vote: tarhalindur, fos: tarhalindur

Wonder what that does.

Depends on Tarhalindur's abilities

the quote tool at the upper right corner of the post is very helpful you know

I quick quote

I have to go for now. Don't abuse the thread too much, lol.

[forbiddanlight]

"Six by nine. Forty-two."
"That's it. That's all there is."

Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy (duh)

(aka the "Every FoS Has an Equal And Opposite..." Vote Count)

Mod Hint

"Hallowed are the Ori."

?

"Hmm, Mod Wagon"

Mod observation

"'Business!' cried the Ghost, wringing its hands again. "Mankind was my business. The common welfare was my business; charity, mercy, forbearance, and benevolence, were, all, my business. The dealings of my trade were but a drop of water in the comprehensive ocean of my business!""

? (I know, I fail)

(aka the "Whiskey, Tango, Foxtrot, Over" Vote Count)

WTF, Over

"Gee, Brain, what are we going to do tonight?"
"The same thing we do every night, Pinky - try to take over the world!"

Animaniacs, the Pinky and the Brain (duh)

(aka the "Rapid Vote Counts Make For Faster Games" Vote Count)

Mod observation

"Still round the corner there may wait
A new road or a secret gate
And though I oft have passed them by
The day will come at last when I
Shall take the hidden paths that run
West of the Moon and East of the Sun."

Um...dang...I think I should know this, but...I don't.
?

(aka the "Somebody Gets It" Vote Count)

Mod hint?

Misquoted, for the record.

Yeah, I know . Love that song.


That's page two. Going to post about page 3 next.

[forbiddanlight]

Don't lynch him, you'll lynch me if you do.

Hi LAIN!

Lynch at will. It probably isn't from MS 2

was made by another player speaking through Tar, and not Tar himself. i definitely want to see more of this before anyone goes through with a Tar lynch

Too bad. If you had played it right, mystery player, you could have pulled some of the "voice of the mod" games I played last game .

can't elaborate due to role? or just don't want to?

They can't claim abilities if it IS similar to my MS2 role, or even that they are speaking through the mod. That was really borderline, but I'm assuming tar allowed it (since I was given the option of having tar make my posts not break PR)

Yeah, the Tar bandwagon was a joke. Why do we need to waste our D1 lynch on it?

Still say Tar or his channeler is scum

Also, figure out who got dropped from signups when Tar declared it actually had 29 players.

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why? and on that note, when have you previously mentioned you thought he/she was scum?

MS 1, Tarhalindur was a role in the game
MS 2, Tarhalindur was both a role in the game and he was a player (Chairman Mao). I think he was town aligned though, or at least self aligned
MS 3. I would not be surprised if Tarhalindur were scum.

Yes.

FL has been trying to get the mod lynched for real, which I find to be pretty scummy, considering that it will probably waste the D1 lynch.

Unvote
Vote: Forbiddanlight

FoS:Caboose

Excuse me for trying something that has NOT BEEN DONE IN AN MS GAME BEFORE, DESPITE THE LAST TWO GAMES SHOWING THERE BEING INFORMATIONAL BENEFIT!

By no means did I want him quicklynched, but I did desire his lynch, because this time, I think we'll get the most benefit.

Information Instead of Analysis. But now I see pretty much everyone is doing it, which is understandable. She just seemed to lead it off.

Nyeh...if you really find it suspicious why didn't you vote me?

And you seem to be engaging in a lot of IIoA yourself. I don't really like that tell though.

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Not Lain. Sagara.

Well, it's a similar mechanic so far.

Some things lost, some things gained. Last time was his mistake. I say no more.

Ah, I gotcha. Yeah, he did say he didn't expect it, so he would put a measure against it if he used it again. And to be fair, I doubt you could have pulled it off with my precedent. As well as the fact that I screwed the town using it. I just thought it was cool.

Sorry, can't elaborate. Not much, at least. Have too little time, too little space, too much to do with too little. Most annoying, really. I'll try to make the rest of what I say count. Gomen.

Vote/FoSes I shall keep private. Too many problems otherwise. 30 players is annoying.

Well, that explains one of the secret votes. I liked combining the two, secret and public votes.

With 30 players, you probably have more than 10 posts. But I can understand needing to conserve them.

Not scum. Town, but not quite. Additional win con, must meet both. This is permitted.

That sounds a lot like non town...I don't like it.

After thinking... would other FMP! characters please claim?

I REALLY don't like this.

Also, who was an interested player that uses fangirl japanese? That gomen is a giveaway, I just don't know who'd use it.

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good answer. i wasn't sure what you meant at first by being interested in the setup but now i see, so thanks for elaborating. on that note small FoS: FL for the whole analyzing the mod VCs thing. in the first game, one of the mafia just made large posts consisting of mod analysises(?), and kinda just floated by until endgame. it's fine if you include your mod VC observations with some actual content, but posts with just the flavor speculation aren't good Sad

Sorry, I wanted to do it in MS 2 and obviously couldn't. And notice while I'm doing my mod watch posts, I'm trying to post content in the post after. I'll keep them more seperate if you'd like?

@person talking via Tar: answer my questions

I'm probably assuming too much and giving them an out, but...I think if he IS town, he should conserve his posts for when it matters since he's likely limited on posts per day. He also might not be able to answer them

Yes, because I have no reason to believe that he/she is otherwise.
But FL's jump onto Tar/whoever is behind Tar is really weird and the probable waste of a lynch and FL probably knows that.

I think the opposite. Any other game, I wouldn't push a mod wagon except for lulz. Tar lynches would not have been wasteful in the other two games (though to be fair I scared the crap out of everyone considering that in MS 2)

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I always trust the mod.

Well, that lost the game for town MS 2. Granted, I was still town aligned. But the mod is the last person you should trust in an MS game. THAT much is constant.

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also, you can't honestly expect us to trust you enough for some of us to character claim based on your word alone, can you? for all we know, your WC could be "kill all characters from this show, etc."

Or perhaps a punisher like Nat's ability in MS 2. Maybe if he gets a role name he can kill them by naming that player and their role. In which case I'd lean neutral.

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Yes, this could be true. But I still find it really odd/kind of scummy that you are actually pushing a case on Tar/person-behind-Tar.

I'm WIFOMing myself given the previous games. If something better comes along, I'll probably go to it. But I think we need to lynch Tar sometime this game, and D1 makes us lose the least time/info, or something.

Abuse is so your specialty; why should I deny you the pleasure?~

Taking abuse maybe

ZazieR.

I'm going to hate myself for going to sleep now that this game has started. I think I've been cut 50 times just typing this :v

Ah, so it's ZazieR...but isn't she playing already? As in in the sign up list? It's someone not there that showed interest.

I'm going to do something else. Might be on later.

[forbiddanlight]

Claim; Survivor
Vote: FL
Vote: Caboose

Before I go further, new target

Unvote, Vote Empking

SURVIVORS CANNOT BE ABIDED!

[forbiddanlight]

THIRD child. As in, a group of 3?

Wouldn't go for that. Evangelion is a mind screw, and Tar always uses characters from it. Second, why assume 3 scum?

UnFoS, FoS DGB

We're going to lynch a claimed survivor D1? Really?

I know, about time. (stupid Nat, by stupid I mean he fooled us well)

EDIT: Tarhalindur has received Rules Infractions for posts 36, 40, 43, 45, and 115. The vote counts corresponding to these posts have been repaired. - Tar

That's five rules infractions tar. Modkill

This looks like a mason soft-claim to me. Given this interpretation, I do not think Empking should be the lynch right now.

Even if it were, MS 2 happens to have 2 mafia masons.

Also, Freud was told "shinji was a good guy" in MS 2, and it was a mafia fakeclaim. Not working.

But it wouldn't surprise me if Tar is also using them to punish other metas... like Survivor lynching based on ONLY being a survivor.

Considering how we ignored that meta in the first two games, I highly doubt he's punishing it.

A similar role was in MS2. I implore EVERYONE read Ms2's roles NOW.

TL:DR version: There was no Shinji in MS2, but one role was allowed to target a character and see if they were Shinji and if they were they could talk to them. Additionally Mafia had a fake claim that was Shinji AND one of the roles when it protected someone returned any investigations back as if the person was Shinji.

Thank you

i am infact, the towns psychologist

Even more like MS 2


OH DAMMIT! Did I just hammer him!? I'm sorry...I wanted to get that vote out while I caught up :S...DAMMIT!

I'm sorry about ending the day so early...

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I really really hope this isn't going to become a Jester Mafia.

Same. If tar really did that, I'd be INCREDIBLY disappointed.

[forbiddanlight]

The game is NOT over. - Tar

Yeah, we failed to no lynch .

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BTW, I give a high 5 to anyone who can say where my avi photo is from.

Kuroshitsuji?

I maintain that the mod needs to be lynched, and will be pushing for that on D2. I am not talking about whoever is posting as the mod. I am talking about the mod himself. The information we have the potential to gain may be quite helpful. Either that or, if he is Mao again, we can get to see the rules. Honestly, I can't see a downside.

I agree with this!

re: mod lynch - I've expressed my thoughts on the subject back on page 2 or 3.. I'm against it as I expect mod lynching to be a bad thing after being a good thing the past 2 games

Or maybe he wants you to...etc. etc. etc.

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re: mod lynch - I've expressed my thoughts on the subject back on page 2 or 3.. I'm against it as I expect mod lynching to be a bad thing after being a good thing the past 2 games

Or maybe he wants you to...etc. etc. etc.

Either way.. only one of us will end up being right.

Yes.. but I don't think there is any rush to find out right now honestly...

I'd rather find out before we approach possible lylo. Earlier is better.

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Well, that works ^-^. My activity should go up a bit since I don't have to do the account switch doohickey now.

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Will votes suffice, SG? Mostly the reasoning presented by everyone else.

Vote qwints

Oh, no one targetted forbiddanlight last night, if anyone was interested.

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Yeah, that's not scummy. And how is NK immunity for YOU good for the town?

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Why would I bother badgering Pesco to pick someone else if it wasn't in my interests to have as many confirmable people out there?

So that you wouldn't be investigated scum?

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It was stated that Kinetic could have been a death miller. What I don't like is that Kinetic never CLAIMED it.

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Oh, isn't it obvious? It's Kinetic.

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I'm hoping it isn't, because if Kinetic is a death miller, that likely means there are still four or five scum left... which puts us either in LyLo or one day away.

If it WERE Kinetic, you'd believe him?

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Well, I find it hilarious that my character gender got me killed (further hilarious if the fact I was conducting a (failed) gender experiment making TehVariable male)

Good luck all.

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Sigh. I thought FL wouldn't put a player at L1 so I proxyed my vote on Day 1 to her. Such a bad bad move.

You really thought I wouldn't put a player to L-1? And I'm sorry that caused your death. I tend to do things impulsivlely.

Ok, so why did poptaj, assumably town, execute my alt? (Not that I had much purpose in this game when my main died N1)

And yeah, this sucked for me. I knew there was a reason I tend not to join large games.

So! VC quote sources and Mod notes for the win!?

Coming, coming. (And Machiavellian-Mafia killed you due to the Execute Male he handed out getting reflected D5.) - Tar

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Sigh. I thought FL wouldn't put a player at L1 so I proxyed my vote on Day 1 to her. Such a bad bad move.

You really thought I wouldn't put a player to L-1? And I'm sorry that caused your death. I tend to do things impulsivlely.

Ok, so why did poptaj, assumably town, execute my alt? (Not that I had much purpose in this game when my main died N1)

And yeah, this sucked for me. I knew there was a reason I tend not to join large games.

So! VC quote sources and Mod notes for the win!?

Coming, coming. (And Machiavellian-Mafia killed you due to the Execute Male he handed out getting reflected D5.) - Tar

Ah.

Anyway, I find it hilarious that Xyl totally caught on to who I was as "TehVariable", and the other scum start off all like "Something is off color about him...he's protective!"

I didn't think my quote pattern was so distinctive.

[forbiddanlight]

it was incredibly obvious

And yet...so few picked up on it apparently . In a game that's all about noticing these things, I'm quite ashamed of you all. And ashamed of myself for not covering that since I didn't notice it myself.

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Sigh. I thought FL wouldn't put a player at L1 so I proxyed my vote on Day 1 to her. Such a bad bad move.

You really thought I wouldn't put a player to L-1? And I'm sorry that caused your death. I tend to do things impulsivlely.

As town you usually don't put people at L1 and I was getting a town vibe from you. Oh, and if I had used my kill it would have been on Xyl. xD

Me specifically, or only as a normal townie? I'm probably a very...eccentric townie when it comes to things...very careless too. And that would have been awesome.

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Sigh. I thought FL wouldn't put a player at L1 so I proxyed my vote on Day 1 to her. Such a bad bad move.

You really thought I wouldn't put a player to L-1? And I'm sorry that caused your death. I tend to do things impulsivlely.

As town you usually don't put people at L1 and I was getting a town vibe from you. Oh, and if I had used my kill it would have been on Xyl. xD

Me specifically, or only as a normal townie? I'm probably a very...eccentric townie when it comes to things...very careless too. And that would have been awesome.

You specifically. From my meta on you you're only eccentric as scum.(see Time Abuse)

Huh. There are a few that would dispute that meta. I fluctuate between serious and eccentric as scum (though generally I'll try to stick to the same attitude throughout the game), but tend more often to be eccentric as town. There are a couple exceptions, but they are rare.

Of course, self metaing has never been my strong suit. Usually it boils down to horrid town, alright scum depending on effort put in.

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Hey veerus.

I DIDN'T RUIN THIS ONE! BE HAPPY.

Anyway, you did very well I think.

Also, does anyone find it amusing that my performance as Lain in MS II has Tar creating provisions for "voice of the mod lynches"?

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Well, I was caring at first but didn't bother keeping up since Tar has far too many references for my narrow band of interests .

[forbiddanlight]

Soooooo...anyone ever plan to piss off the party in their next DnD game and "accidentally" say "Hastur Hastur Hastur" in character?

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Soooooo...anyone ever plan to piss off the party in their next DnD game and "accidentally" say "Hastur Hastur Hastur" in character?

They are always my dying words, lol.

Ooh, good plan. How many DMs have you pissed off? (and parties)

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At this point my character is the jester bomb of the party. I've taken out more story villians with an untimely death than I care to mention.

lmao, that's great.