Micro 1090: Fruit Mafia - Game Over!

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Oh it's Dead By Deadlight, 2 days ago

my reading comprehensions sucks

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So anyway

I just spent an unknown amount of time attempting to do VCA before I realized I have 0 fucking clue how to do VCA and gave up on it.

Also I finally realized why Marci was nightkilled. It was because she pushed Aristeia. This clearly required genius level thinking.

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good morning

uh hopefully you guys don't just vote me or something

Can you like scumcase Datisi or something?

Because I'm somewhat tempted to to just sheep Skitter's solve of Ari/you (especially because I was also thinking that at some point in Day 3).

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And all this talk of Datisi and Skitter being good scumplayers + Aristeia apparently being a good scumplayer + all of y'all being good friends with each other made me realize you are probably ALSO a good scum player so you probably could fake those townie posts on Day 3. Or is this banana logic?

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Also Datisi can you please explain this post?

i went to bed yesterday thinking how skitter + infinity roles are enough for a micro, and how just infinity's role isn't,

and praying to all gods out there that someone else also claims something

anyway uh.

hi skitter. sorry for tunnelling you. (even though your play around marci/atsi really was scummy af from an objective pov.) can i make you not vote me? pls?

Like I could

kinda

see how you could say this as town but it also sounds like you were hoping Skitter wasn't conftown which is just "huh?"

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Okay I should probably go to sleep and continue trying to analyze this tomorrow, because rn I feel like half of what I'm writing doesn't even pass through my brain before it reaches my fingers.

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The above post is an excellent example of itself

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The reason I'm bringing this up now is basically:

When you posted that, you were still locktown in my mind so I didn't really care. Then you posted more things (specifically the skitter's double-voter post) which made me go "hmmm is this scum subtly trying to buddy / align themselves with Skitter so they don't get voted?"

I didn't really continue that train of thought yesterday because (a) I was basically away for most of yesterday and (b) when I came back (which btw I didn't actually have time to play but I just did it anyway) it seemed skitter was deciding between Ari and Ausuka so there wasn't any point thinking about you at that point, but now I remembered this so I wanted to ask about it.

Also, I guess that makes a lot of sense, I didn't really see it from that perspective but yeah I guess it would be worse for town!skitt to vote town!you rather than if scum!skitt voted town!you.

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Anyway I wanna read some stuff from Day 3 to see if there's anything I can divulge from Ari's play about her partner.

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Sorry for flaking

I have some serious rl life issues right now and it's making me uhh...

Okay let's just say life really sucks right now so it's pretty hard for me to have the mental power to play, but I just really don't feel like repping out. I wanna win this game.

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I got nominated for the best scumplay award but then it got stolen from me by marcistar of all people

Wait is that real?

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Okay so i actually got around to reading Day 3, in search of Ari's fabled associative's.

To be completely honest, Day 3 sucks. I really hoped the discussion there would be more fruitful to analyze but it's like the most dull, boring Elo I've ever seen.

Anyway:

Also i don't think elements (dragon) and dats are partnered

So i think i'm left with like you/dats ans you/ausuka

Oh, amazing. So the conclusion is that Ari is partnered with one of the Datisi and Ausuka. That really helps me narrow it down

(sorry skitter if I'm being mean, it's just I really hoped to see some compelling arguments for your ari/ausuka solve when going back and I'm just annoyed that I have to figure it out myself)

I think i'm like

Dragon
Dats
Ausuka
Ari

And want to vote one of the latter two

If it's dats he's having a Not Great scumgame for him which tbf happens

why don't you vote out Ausuka and investigate me then

I am not sure why I decided to quote this post by Ari specifically, it's probably the worst example of this, but anyhow Ari on Day 3 feels to me like she's in anti-spew mode and this post for instance might look at first glance as a desperate scum meneavuer (I know how to spell lol) trying to misyeet town, but I think it'd make more sense for scum!Ari to do it as a way to distance since she already knew that she would be the lim.

Dats if skitter decides to vote me will you please hammer me

I kinda think this spews Datisi town and tbh the more I've been thinking about it the more I'm happy with this solve.
Like I may be stupid or smth and I'm too tired right now for my brain to fully make sense (I literally called Ausuka "Ari" like twice while typing this post), but I do think that the same thing that happened with me (where 2 scum and one town wanted me yeeted) was basically what happened to Datisi at some point and in order to now spew Datisi town she had to change her read to scumread her partner (

Ari

Ausuka).

Also the town vibes from Datisi's Day 2 are too strong and while I still think his Day 3 was scummy, I can't deny that his explanation of the town motivation for these scummy actions makes sense to me.

i guess it's hypocritical of me to shit on dragons for not caring about ausuka possibly voting him when it was looking likely i was getting voted today for a while and i never actually like, cared about it that much

Thanks for acknowledging this because uhhh I don't even remember what happened but yeah I didn't really care about it

Also RE leaning you/ari and then saying it again, the thing was I initially (around 1120 as you mentioned) said it was you and ari simply after reading Ausuka ISO and finding some townie things in it, which did sway me from absolute scumreading her, but I didn't actually get to reading and evaluating you individually so it was more like PoE sort of thing, then the other post (1170) was after actually reading your Day 3 posts in depth which like did sound scummy to me, but I guess if i compare it to your entire ISO and to the fact that both me and Skitter agree that Ari/Ausuka makes sense as a solve (and I know I said Ausuka was townie but again, it was more townie than before which made me doubt myself, I in now way saw her as omega townie or something)

Yeah

I think ari/ausuka make sense

It explains the miller thing which is super unlikely
Why ari didnt push her over it
I never tr either of them

And honestly like you're saying it explains why marci is dead
I'm assuming they thoyght i'd vote you
Dragons as limbait is interesting tho b/c i've been townreading him all game idj

And this is also probably true cause like

Ari/Ausuka kinda explains everything. It definitely explains how we wound up with these 2 mislims (cause I felt they did a good job kinda sneaking under the radar Day 1 and 2 which wouldn't easily happen if it was Ari/Datisi I think?), it explains why they had strong mutual TR all game that turned into a mutual push in Elo (distancing), and though I am not 100% sure it fully explains why skitter was left alive in f5, I honestly can't think of a better explanation than "they wanted skitter to vote Datisi", so I guess that's the reason? Like it kinda sounds ridiculous, but as someone said (I think it was skitter? maybe Ausuka), it's not like a different scumteam would suddenly make you go "ohhh I totally see why they killed marci".

Shrug not really sure what to say here if skitter thinks I have done literally nothing towny the entire game

I think Ari's pivot to like actually scumreading me when skitter goes in that direction is scum probably. Whatever I can't even say I'm sure who the scumteam is here. I think it could realistically be any of the three teams. I guess I could vote Ari? Not really sure what else I can say

Idk Ausuka, can you like point out townie things you did do this game other than talking about your marci dream?

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Good night cause I'm like 1 hour 50 minutes overdue to be in bed.

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VOTE: Datisi

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Well I really feel bad cause I spent the last 2 hours making that scum case on you and now it's wasted.

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GG though

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Good night

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Would it be considered game throwing if I voted you after you voted Datisi?

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So can we please make it (head)cannon that I voted Ausuka which meant Datisi had no choice but to hammer Ausuka? Thx

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I really wanted to do this but was too stressed to do a mistake at 2 AM

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i'm kind of glad this is over too

everyone always says i'm not towny nowadays i have no idea why

i feel like people only townread me if i roll scum

I'll try to give you feedback tomorrow

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why

ngl i would've been really annoyed with you if you'd done that

Oh sry, I was just thinking it would be cool to get you to crossvote bu whatever.

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Thanks Cakez for modding!

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gg sorry i was bad

Gg all
Sorry for the bad dragon tr >.>

You two should really read the scum PT (or maybe you shouldn't if you think it would make you feel bad). Like me and Ari did so many bad choices just so we can keep you sort of pocketed.

gg sorry i was bad

LOL

You were amazing and we won due to your coaching me and I would've lost so bad if we did your plan of bussing you Day 1

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the real important question remains:
was the hammer intentional or actually an accident

It was in fact an accident

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i'm kind of glad this is over too

everyone always says i'm not towny nowadays i have no idea why

i feel like people only townread me if i roll scum

Spoiler: if you don't mind someone who played scum nitpicking your towniness

I think it was just your tone? Like I think I saw you in other town games and you had a more lighthearted/self confident tone than on this one.
Oh, and while it's true your tone wasn't 100% townie, I think there were several places (for example page 31) where you sounded extremely townie - I just ignored it on purpose to further my win con. Sorry

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Anyway I was planning to take a hiatus from Mafia after this game (which I'll probably do), so it's nice that my last game for a while is also my first scum victory. Yay me!

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Btw I really enjoyed playing with all of you, hopefully we can be town together at some point.

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I just read the dead thread and I have to say, I actually predicted Skitter checking Datisi and was cobtemplating doing a troll move and killing Datisi instead of skitter, but tbh I don't think there would've been any benefit to that.

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Anything in particular?