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Post Post #4275 (ISO) » Thu Sep 21, 2023 1:31 am

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In post 4274, furtiveglance wrote:
In post 4270, KatyKimFanClub wrote:
In post 4264, furtiveglance wrote:
In post 4251, KatyKimFanClub wrote: It seems much more likely to me that GL is town compared to furtive. His claim and actions make more sense.
For furtive, I don't think a town player is not going to investigate people. The consensus around BlueSnakelet's guide was clearly that strong investigative roles should be using their abilities.
This analysis is wrong.

There were 5 VTs in Datisi's Cafe.

It was fair to assume a similar number in this game.

This makes it more likely to get a non-VT than a VT result, which is useless unless a scum player I checked claims VT (unlikely).
Why does the number of VTs matter? Sure, there are less, but it’s a correspondingly more meaningful result
It's a green check, which I'm unlikely to get. I'm far more likely to get an ambiguous result which will almost never be useful.

The number of VTs matter because if there were around 50% of town being VTs, I'd be more likely to get a useful result.
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Post Post #4276 (ISO) » Thu Sep 21, 2023 1:32 am

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In post 4271, KatyKimFanClub wrote: Not to mention, your role can confirm town power roles who haven’t studied yet!
No it can't - that would provide an ambiguous result.
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Post Post #4277 (ISO) » Thu Sep 21, 2023 1:33 am

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In post 4272, KatyKimFanClub wrote: Also, if you really think your role is not that useful, AND you see Sail claim VT Day 1, why are you studying?

This isn’t even mentioning how mispriced I think your role is. Why is it the only investigative role worth less than 100 points? Datisi was very careful to gate these roles in his review thread for last game.
I decided to get 1 check for when someone claims VT who isn't about to die.
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Post Post #4278 (ISO) » Thu Sep 21, 2023 1:35 am

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Enchant, and anyone else who thinks I used my role badly, I genuinely think my actions have been reasonable.

I am not a Cop. I am not a Tracker.

What would have been the point in checking someone who hasn't claimed earlier in the game? It literally only makes sense to do in the unlikely scenario that I get a yes result.
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Post Post #4279 (ISO) » Thu Sep 21, 2023 1:46 am

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In post 4278, furtiveglance wrote: Enchant, and anyone else who thinks I used my role badly, I genuinely think my actions have been reasonable.
Let's assume you GENUINELY believe it's GOOD idea to NOT do anything.

You was pushed previous day. Only because of guilty on Dann wagon stopped.
And you STILL didn't act just atleast to use these TPR while you still can and provide something on claim.


How you planned to survive this day phase? "lol i did nothing"? It was your plan? You was 100% assured we not voting you?
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Post Post #4280 (ISO) » Thu Sep 21, 2023 1:58 am

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In post 4279, Enchant wrote:
In post 4278, furtiveglance wrote: Enchant, and anyone else who thinks I used my role badly, I genuinely think my actions have been reasonable.
Let's assume you GENUINELY believe it's GOOD idea to NOT do anything.

You was pushed previous day. Only because of guilty on Dann wagon stopped.
And you STILL didn't act just atleast to use these TPR while you still can and provide something on claim.


How you planned to survive this day phase? "lol i did nothing"? It was your plan? You was 100% assured we not voting you?
I was close to claiming yesterday.
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Post Post #4281 (ISO) » Thu Sep 21, 2023 1:58 am

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Yes, and you didn't act anyway.

Why?
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Post Post #4282 (ISO) » Thu Sep 21, 2023 2:13 am

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In post 4281, Enchant wrote: Yes, and you didn't act anyway.

Why?
I was waiting for a VT claim, or enough PR claims to give me a good idea of who to check.
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Post Post #4283 (ISO) » Thu Sep 21, 2023 2:27 am

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Fuck this game.
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Post Post #4284 (ISO) » Thu Sep 21, 2023 2:29 am

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I think it should be obvious Ranger is scum siding 3p. She's overly invested as being labeled town when 3p are often invest immune and she's overly invested in which slot leaves.
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Post Post #4285 (ISO) » Thu Sep 21, 2023 2:34 am

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I want to work with Ali and NorwegianboyEE.
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Post Post #4286 (ISO) » Thu Sep 21, 2023 3:05 am

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In post 4284, Titus wrote: I think it should be obvious Ranger is scum siding 3p.
Weird accusation.

Ranger doesh't play like 3p, she literally called bullets on self with "i grab TPR" claim D1.
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Post Post #4287 (ISO) » Thu Sep 21, 2023 3:15 am

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In post 4274, furtiveglance wrote: The number of VTs matter because if there were around 50% of town being VTs, I'd be more likely to get a useful result.
If you don't get a VT result on someone that is still useful later on in the game.
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Post Post #4288 (ISO) » Thu Sep 21, 2023 3:16 am

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Also maybe I'm misreading the wording of your claim but if you investigated a town PR who alway studied (and thus never got TPR), you would get a VT result right?
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Post Post #4289 (ISO) » Thu Sep 21, 2023 3:16 am

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I think I'm going to hammer you in a bit. Unless anyone has something else to say.
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Post Post #4290 (ISO) » Thu Sep 21, 2023 3:22 am

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Nope. I am thinking furtiveglance is scum but GL or Enchant has an extra kill. If I don't see one soon, I think PRs are fake. No matter the route I take, Ranger is fake.
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Post Post #4291 (ISO) » Thu Sep 21, 2023 3:27 am

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In post 4290, Titus wrote: Nope. I am thinking furtiveglance is scum but GL or Enchant has an extra kill.
????
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Post Post #4292 (ISO) » Thu Sep 21, 2023 4:09 am

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In post 4291, Enchant wrote:
In post 4290, Titus wrote: Nope. I am thinking furtiveglance is scum but GL or Enchant has an extra kill.
????
If the PRs are all real, then we got a lot of spent SPR. So where's the extra kill?
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Post Post #4293 (ISO) » Thu Sep 21, 2023 4:55 am

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In post 4292, Titus wrote:
In post 4291, Enchant wrote:
In post 4290, Titus wrote: Nope. I am thinking furtiveglance is scum but GL or Enchant has an extra kill.
????
If the PRs are all real, then we got a lot of spent SPR. So where's the extra kill?
Why you say GL or me have extra kill?


Also i would't fire extra kill instantly. I would use it as tool to get majority faster or kill PRs which need to die fast.
I can't really guarantee that mafia thinks same way but they most likely do.
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Post Post #4294 (ISO) » Thu Sep 21, 2023 5:07 am

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Maybe I saved the extra kill on RCE last night :)

I'm out right now but will be free later. Kinda feel like Norwee is just ghosting and Titus is openwolfing
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Post Post #4295 (ISO) » Thu Sep 21, 2023 5:08 am

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Also I don't have anything super important to say that I havent already said so feel free to hammer if you're ready KKFC

Osuka is the one person I think we would benefit from hearing more from
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Post Post #4296 (ISO) » Thu Sep 21, 2023 5:13 am

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In post 4293, Enchant wrote:
In post 4292, Titus wrote:
In post 4291, Enchant wrote:
In post 4290, Titus wrote: Nope. I am thinking furtiveglance is scum but GL or Enchant has an extra kill.
????
If the PRs are all real, then we got a lot of spent SPR. So where's the extra kill?
Why you say GL or me have extra kill?


Also i would't fire extra kill instantly. I would use it as tool to get majority faster or kill PRs which need to die fast.
I can't really guarantee that mafia thinks same way but they most likely do.
Ranger's protection of you and GL. Ranger has to be fake. I agree scum use the extra kill if it exists.

It doesn't exist = a PR is fake.

The only PR that can be fake is Ranger.

If it's real, then scum panick and protect the person with the kill. The only person fitting that profile is Ranger. Everyone else is on the record as being fine with either wagon.

Given scum likely using the extra kill, we likely have a lying PR.
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Post Post #4297 (ISO) » Thu Sep 21, 2023 5:16 am

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At this point i seriously considering leaving both alive and voting Titus out instead.
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Post Post #4298 (ISO) » Thu Sep 21, 2023 5:18 am

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In post 4297, Enchant wrote: At this point i seriously considering leaving both alive and voting Titus out instead.
Where is the flaw in my logic?
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Post Post #4299 (ISO) » Thu Sep 21, 2023 5:21 am

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Just because you benefit doesn't make me wrong.
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