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[Hu Tao]

Tempted to just pick now because this one feels very good about VS and if it's wrong and VS is evil then we were kinda fucked anyway?

Pick me!

[Vanderscamp]

Do we have to vote someone out today BTW? Can we no vote and get more info? That way there will 5 tomorrow

If we do that evil wins, but we can kill an already dead player. That might be fine depending on claims

[Vanderscamp]

Tempted to just pick now because this one feels very good about VS and if it's wrong and VS is evil then we were kinda fucked anyway?

Obviously not going to say no to you doing that!
If you're feeling more risk-averse, unless Piggy is good and doing some kind of really weird bluff, Random is also definitely good so you can always choose there.

I'm not too worried about losing to your ability given the state of the game.

[Vanderscamp]

Yeah Vortox being in the game is not fantastic to say the least but the good news is that we know it's the case, so we don't have to worry about the other demon abilities

[Infinity 324]

Infinity isn't even claiming to be the good twin, which seems very strange.

I assumed #320 was them acknowledging it but who knows

I already claimed Oracle lol

[Infinity 324]

VOTE: vanderscamp

i'm assuming we can't have 2 of the same role

this oracle claim is very strange but I guess they just missed my claim

[Infinity 324]

Infinity refusing to counter-claim Twin is super-interesting. Infinity, if you are the other Twin, for God's sake claim. We need to kill one of you or Vander to win. I know it may seem like a Good town play to not counter-claim. It is not. Every Twin game where the Good Twin doesn't claim I have seen is a game where town loses.

I am not the twin. I already claimed Oracle. what is so confusing about this

[Infinity 324]

ohh good twin isn't a role. ok well I'm not the twin

[Infinity 324]

I'm still not sure exactly why vanderscamp claimed, but I would like to make it clear that there does not have to be a vortox here if vanderscamp is scum

[HighPrincessErinys]

ohh good twin isn't a role. ok well I'm not the twin

well then what the hells going on here!!

[Infinity 324]

vanderscamp is doing a gambit. I guess the reason to gambit is that from town's pov, there's less risk to killing me than killing vander, because if they are town and we kill them town loses, whereas if you kill me the game keeps going. it's also an advantage to get the idea in people's heads that there's a vortox, which means that town can't trust their results. this claim also gives more credibility to anix.

what I would ask even if you elim me here is that you don't let vander just coast to endgame. since them being town requires there being a vortox, you might as well investigate them or whatever and see if that info is consistent at least.

[Infinity 324]

wait if you lim me and the game doesn't end isn't vander confirmed lying? i assume the evil twin info isn't affected by vortox

[atsi]

wait if you lim me and the game doesn't end isn't vander confirmed lying? i assume the evil twin info isn't affected by vortox

Why would the game end? Vortox would still be alive assuming Vanderscamp is telling the truth.

[Infinity 324]

oh right the twin is a minion.

[Enchant]

Votecount

Official Vote Count 2.02

With 6 players alive, it takes 4 votes or more to Execute player.

Vanderscamp (2): Random Nurse, Infinity 324

Deadline:

(expired on 2023-09-30 17:21:54).

Mod notes:

A

[Hu Tao]

I'm leaning Vander right now. But either way, we wait for HPE to pick

[Infinity 324]

hpe should pick random imo

[Hu Tao]

Pick me! Pinky promise I'm not scum.

[atsi]

I trust Hu Tao so I think that's a good pick.

[HighPrincessErinys]

Yeah this one isn't sure about VS right now and it's best to get this out of the way now and see if we survive my choice, so...

KLUTZ PICK: Random Nurse

[Random Nurse]

So does the game mod confirm it in the thread?

So is it like an IC?

[Random Nurse]

I didn't realize the Hood locked down after the other player died, even though they can still post here.

[Vanderscamp]

I'm still not sure exactly why vanderscamp claimed, but I would like to make it clear that there does not have to be a vortox here if vanderscamp is scum

I'm assuming this is the reason Infinity is denying being a twin here

[Vanderscamp]

wait if you lim me and the game doesn't end isn't vander confirmed lying? i assume the evil twin info isn't affected by vortox

LOL

The game will not end because you're the evil twin.
If I get limmed the game is over.

[Vanderscamp]

Yeah this one isn't sure about VS right now and it's best to get this out of the way now and see if we survive my choice, so...

KLUTZ PICK: Random Nurse

Unless Piggy has thrown, there's no world in which this loses.
I don't think this is the case if I'm evil but I haven't thought too hard about those worlds