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Post Post #450 (ISO) » Sat Sep 23, 2023 5:17 pm

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Sorry I'm a little busy this weekend

I'm not caught up but I'm ok with a T3/Iavh lim. I'll try to play catch-up on Monday
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Post Post #451 (ISO) » Sat Sep 23, 2023 5:25 pm

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im not on board for iavh bandwagon

in fact, iavh you should sheep me on dunnstral
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Post Post #452 (ISO) » Sat Sep 23, 2023 7:03 pm

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In post 370, Dannflor wrote: is it weird that like no one in the game jumped in to call generic vs. Black TvT
*raises eyebrow*

What do you think I was doing?

Though I suppose he could just have been the brand of troll who doesn't actually care about the game, not quite as confident about that read as I was at the time.
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Post Post #453 (ISO) » Sat Sep 23, 2023 7:40 pm

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In post 424, Abnegation wrote: i am mostly caught up btw, just didn't bother with another post like the ones i was doing.
So... Just curious... Is there someone you wanna vote, or are you cool leaving it where the previous slot holder did?
In post 434, meowmeow wrote: it isn't a meta read, i think your posts this game are towny

i think in particular comes from scum a very small amount of the time. i think the point about what dunn and dann are doing is like... good and insightful and vibed a lot with how i was feeling as i read the thread. i generally like the sarcasm, both in that post in - it feels consistent and genuine to me, and i think the intuitive approach as scum is to be more polite to dannflor since you really couldn't give an expletive about anything he's saying about black and that's just helpful in case you need him later.
Well crap, I'm supposed to plan out who to be nice to?! Can't I just get him yeeted so I don't have to be nice?!? :eek:
In post 439, meowmeow wrote: i think in the scumgame abnegation linked for iavh he also feels... a bit flat, especially towards the end

however reading his recent games i found this game where iavh is town and super flat and stale (sorry) and multiple people comment on it.

so i think maybe his playstyle has just shifted more generally? i still don't love his posts but whatever
I just glanced through his ISO there but it seemed more in line with my previous experience with him than this game has been. I would say he's very... Demanding. Which isn't happening here.
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In post 432, Dannflor wrote: Where is your head at with regards to this game dunnstral
iamveryhappy has really empty posts where they don't put forth a lot or comment on things. Their does not make sense. I am not seeing a reason to not vote for them, so i will do so.

VOTE: iamveryhappy
You are so wooden that I think you're probably town.
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Post Post #454 (ISO) » Sat Sep 23, 2023 7:54 pm

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In post 453, Aureal wrote:
In post 424, Abnegation wrote: i am mostly caught up btw, just didn't bother with another post like the ones i was doing.
So... Just curious... Is there someone you wanna vote, or are you cool leaving it where the previous slot holder did?
slipped my mind. definitely not wanting to stay on that vote.

UNVOTE:
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Post Post #455 (ISO) » Sat Sep 23, 2023 8:03 pm

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In post 453, Aureal wrote:
In post 443, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 432, Dannflor wrote: Where is your head at with regards to this game dunnstral
iamveryhappy has really empty posts where they don't put forth a lot or comment on things. Their does not make sense. I am not seeing a reason to not vote for them, so i will do so.

VOTE: iamveryhappy
You are so wooden that I think you're probably town.
i get "too scummy to be scum" logic in some cases, but i'm not seeing how it applies here. isn't wooden-ness when someone is having difficulty posting in a way that looks natural? not something someone would intentionally avoid doing as scum. why do you think it's town-indicative here?
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Post Post #456 (ISO) » Sat Sep 23, 2023 8:03 pm

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this is the first time i remember someone has been trying to convince me that i shouldn't townread them

i don't think being sarcastic or rude towards dannflor is particularly helpful regardless of your goals as mafia - it probably makes you less likely to successfully eliminate him
try as you might, you continue to be yourself.
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Post Post #457 (ISO) » Sat Sep 23, 2023 8:05 pm

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dunnstral's tone is typical for him and nai

in friends and enemies i do think his posts were broadly like, better than this
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Post Post #458 (ISO) » Sat Sep 23, 2023 8:06 pm

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In post 438, meowmeow wrote: VOTE: dannflor

i can do this but only because abnegation wants me to....
well now i'm not sure i want to vote there because i don't quite feel ready to put him at e-1! :lol:
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Post Post #459 (ISO) » Sat Sep 23, 2023 8:07 pm

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mwahahaha all part of the master plan meow
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Post Post #460 (ISO) » Sat Sep 23, 2023 8:10 pm

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In post 457, meowmeow wrote: dunnstral's tone is typical for him and nai

in friends and enemies i do think his posts were broadly like, better than this
what alignment were they in that game?
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Post Post #461 (ISO) » Sat Sep 23, 2023 8:11 pm

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In post 407, camelCasedSnivy wrote: i dont understand why dann would not scumread me but scumread dunnstral

seems weird
ccs could you like elaborate on your dunnstral progression here. like were you townreading him at this point?

pedit: dunn was town in friends and enemies. dann and i were also both town in that game
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Post Post #462 (ISO) » Sat Sep 23, 2023 11:49 pm

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In post 457, meowmeow wrote: dunnstral's tone is typical for him and nai

in friends and enemies i do think his posts were broadly like, better than this
Does that tell you anything?
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Post Post #463 (ISO) » Sun Sep 24, 2023 2:33 am

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Prodding T3 (1d 8h). He has (expired on 2023-09-25 07:30:00) to respond in-thread before I seek a replacement.
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Post Post #464 (ISO) » Sun Sep 24, 2023 3:01 am

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In post 462, iamveryhappy wrote:
In post 457, meowmeow wrote: dunnstral's tone is typical for him and nai

in friends and enemies i do think his posts were broadly like, better than this
Does that tell you anything?
it's not new information; i'm commenting on what others said

my read on dunnstral is still that he is meh because he hasn't really done a lot since i replaced in

he could easily be scum but it's not something i'm especially confident about
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Post Post #465 (ISO) » Sun Sep 24, 2023 6:09 am

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In post 422, Abnegation wrote: i like many of the points made in her case on dann in 351. the unvote is interesting though — meow definitely still had a case there, it was only that one piece that had been refuted. i think scum might be more inclined to keep voting there, or at least i would be as scum.
Maybe? What would be the town motivation for unvoting?
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Post Post #466 (ISO) » Sun Sep 24, 2023 6:12 am

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In post 428, Dannflor wrote: No one is voting you
This seems like a fairly disingenuous way of phrasing things. IAVH wasn't complaining about being voted, he was complaining about being scumread and people calling for him to be voted.
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Post Post #467 (ISO) » Sun Sep 24, 2023 6:15 am

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In post 455, Abnegation wrote:
In post 453, Aureal wrote:
In post 443, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 432, Dannflor wrote: Where is your head at with regards to this game dunnstral
iamveryhappy has really empty posts where they don't put forth a lot or comment on things. Their does not make sense. I am not seeing a reason to not vote for them, so i will do so.

VOTE: iamveryhappy
You are so wooden that I think you're probably town.
i get "too scummy to be scum" logic in some cases, but i'm not seeing how it applies here. isn't wooden-ness when someone is having difficulty posting in a way that looks natural? not something someone would intentionally avoid doing as scum. why do you think it's town-indicative here?
I may be overstating it with 'probably' but he was coming off like that in Scarfolk too, where he was town. I don't remember ever getting pinged like that reading his play in Team Mafia, where was was scum (and I was scumreading him most of that game). I'm also kinda agreeing with Black's analysis that his vote on her was rather more tortured in how it came across than seems likely for scum.

In post 456, meowmeow wrote: this is the first time i remember someone has been trying to convince me that i shouldn't townread them

i don't think being sarcastic or rude towards dannflor is particularly helpful regardless of your goals as mafia - it probably makes you less likely to successfully eliminate him


Huh. I didn't think that was quite what I was trying to convey but maybe I am more uncomfortable with townreads than a lot of people because I don't get them that often and they've often been strategically motivated. Like you might do if you're scum here and wanting to get me to feel better about your slot.

I found your reasoning kind of odd and this is still odd. It feels like you're making very broad brush statements which maybe could be applicable in certain situations but I certainly wouldn't agree are categorically true. I'm certainly not nearly as experienced at this as you are but I feel pretty confident that scum can and do use sarcasm and rudeness and it can be quite effective. A townie might well glaze over a wallpost then read someone snarkily dismissing it and go "oh apparently that wallpost sucked anyway, guess I don't need to bother paying attention to it".
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Post Post #468 (ISO) » Sun Sep 24, 2023 6:48 am

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is pretty towny. I don't have much of a read on Abnegation since replacing in but I don't think I want to lim him today.
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Post Post #469 (ISO) » Sun Sep 24, 2023 6:49 am

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In post 451, camelCasedSnivy wrote: im not on board for iavh bandwagon

in fact, iavh you should sheep me on dunnstral
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Post Post #470 (ISO) » Sun Sep 24, 2023 7:55 am

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tbh i think it should be kind of obvious i'm not saying 'mafia are never sarcastic ever'?

i didn't feel like the way you interacted with the thread around dann or black was fake or scummy. i am trying to express that logically. it's based on your interaction with dannflor, not like 'oh sarcasm so town lol'. if i was scum i promise my reasoning would not be 'person is town because they are sarcastic'. i think in this situation, you have a read - you townread black based on her posts so far, you think she's good at scum, you think trying to catch her over simple things is arrogant and you don't like it. if you're town, you care about this - if you're scum, you might care about it but probably don't care about it. i think you come off as genuinely annoyed, and i didn't really see much practical use for using sarcasm in that situation. arguably you could try and anticipate people might townread it, but being level-headed and reasonable typically accomplishes that much better and avoids people getting into fights with you
i also don't think that would be a good scum strategy - people do skim over walls to some extent but generally read the first bit and make an opinion of their own beforehand. skimming isn't the same as skipping entirely. if you used sarcasm in a way that felt fake or out-of-place, that would be asking to get eliminated. if you recognise that dann's posting is flawed, you can again make that point in a way that people tend to think is townier. given that you seem to think it's a good strategy, maybe my read does need to be reconsidered a bit
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Post Post #471 (ISO) » Sun Sep 24, 2023 7:57 am

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In post 451, camelCasedSnivy wrote: im not on board for iavh bandwagon

in fact, iavh you should sheep me on dunnstral
oh actually ccs i also want to ask you why you townread iavh
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Post Post #472 (ISO) » Sun Sep 24, 2023 7:58 am

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In post 461, meowmeow wrote:
In post 407, camelCasedSnivy wrote: i dont understand why dann would not scumread me but scumread dunnstral

seems weird
ccs could you like elaborate on your dunnstral progression here. like were you townreading him at this point?

pedit: dunn was town in friends and enemies. dann and i were also both town in that game
i had a pretty much null read on him, the only time i brought him up was when dann scumread him and iavh

at this point i figured theres gotta be 1 scum in dann/dunn/iamveryhappy and i dont think its ianveryhappy
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Post Post #473 (ISO) » Sun Sep 24, 2023 7:58 am

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oh hello
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Post Post #474 (ISO) » Sun Sep 24, 2023 8:00 am

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because they dont give a shit about looking towny rn

the game they repped in as scum they were trying so hard to towntell by being all woe is me but not here
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