Hi, Pooky!In post 808, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote: sup rh9
Micro 1091 - Prism v. 1L Year [Game Over]
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Preliminary reads based off what I've read so far:
Meuh — Probably town for claim; I don't think she would fakeclaim something like that
Pooky — Probably also town for claim
Dunn — I like their analysis, so maybe town
Luke — Null; I thought his predecessor was nullish and I haven't really caught up to when he starts posting
Bell — Null; Seems pretty chill, not sure what to make of it as I tend to associate town!Bell with being somewhat aggressive
GL — I've liked his early posts, so maybe nulltown?
Ydra — I feel like from her interactions with Cakez, they feel unaligned
Cakez — I tend to SR him because he usually feels scummy to me; I'm going to try to avoid confbiasing myself this time-
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Also, UNVOTE: for now.
P-edit: Their argument didn't feel manufactured to me, which I feel like would be true if they were scum together.-
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Reading Luke's posts, I feel like his argument with catboi over the Dunn vote actually feel kinda towny. In that, it feels like he has genuine concern over catboi's motivations. And his 651 and 652 feel like he's trying to be nuanced, which doesn't really seem like something scum would do? Especially, since he could've take advantage of the increasing pressure.
But I'm leaning towards moving Luke up to my TRs.-
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Well, I guessIn post 829, SirCakez wrote: Does GL/Ydra make sense?? Is that a thing?ifBell is town, that could be possible. And unless I've just been bamboozled and you/Ydra actually is a possible team, then it's likely either you/GL or Ydra/GL.
However, I had liked GL's early game, so I'm still uncertain rn between him and Bell. (I've felt that Bell has been appearing progressively towny in their ISO.)-
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Unhelpfully, I think I just tend to lean into TRing GL's posting style, so I probably won't vote for him today.
I'll reaccess Cakez/Ydra, just in case.-
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As in Cakez/Ydra as a team, in case my preliminary read on them being unaligned was wrong.In post 840, RH9 wrote: Unhelpfully, I think I just tend to lean into TRing GL's posting style, so I probably won't vote for him today.
I'll reaccess Cakez/Ydra, just in case.-
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TBH, what Luke said about Cakez being opportunistic was similar to something I had contemplated last night.
I'm just unsure if it's because he was trying to look out for an easy mislim or he genuinely SRed catboi and was willing to compromise on a non-GL wagon.-
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The thing is though, Cakez didn't really seem to express an SR on catboi until a wagon was becoming viable.-
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Maybe, I'm overthinking this but I would probably go for Cakez over Ydra rn.-
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You know what, maybe I should put my vote where my mouth is.
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I thought you were on E-2?In post 852, SirCakez wrote: actually no Bell is on me ofc lol so E-1
Bell's voting Ydra, I'm pretty sure.-
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Though, Ydra was interested in voting you.-
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I guess this is true.In post 856, SirCakez wrote: yeah this is the dilemma catboi ended up in where he only had two votes I think but enough people were like "i'd vote him" that he felt a lot more pressure than that. or so he claimed at least.-
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I'll probably be busier tomorrow so don't expect that much from me.-
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I don't you think you have to claim, if the current situation continues.In post 880, Ydrasse wrote: more importantly is what would town ydra do because im about to BLOW EVERYONES MINDS
(sorry for not like. playing. i maybe shouldnt have joined because im burned out on this game buuuuut... it is what it is. also ive been playing wow. hi.)
(i will claim if i have to.)
Cakez feels way more likely to end up on E-1 than you IMO.
(GL seems to be leaning towards Cakez over you, and I'm assuming you're not going to self-vote.)-
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I think this makes sense.In post 893, Ydrasse wrote: i wasnt claiming venge and i think all of this like. stuff about it feels like wolves trying to react to something that literally isn't there
i'm vt
my flavor's catboi. this is why it was funnier before. i also did not want to claim because it's pretty easy now to narrow down what's left-
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That's the thing that's making me question if scum!you would rather choose to go for GL, who's unlikely to get limmed over putting Cakez on E-1 to save yourself.In post 929, Ydrasse wrote: sircakez and i being the two main wagons both on gl is very funny-
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True.In post 961, Dunnstral wrote:
I don't think it makes them any more likely to be town thoughIn post 910, RH9 wrote:
I think this makes sense.In post 893, Ydrasse wrote: i wasnt claiming venge and i think all of this like. stuff about it feels like wolves trying to react to something that literally isn't there
i'm vt
my flavor's catboi. this is why it was funnier before. i also did not want to claim because it's pretty easy now to narrow down what's left
It's just that I thought Ydra's earlier statements made sense with the flavour claim.-
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True.
I'm not saying it does. It's probably NAI.-
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VOTE: Cakez
I don't like how he immediately went for Meuh.-
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Basically what Meuh has said.In post 1013, SirCakez wrote: Why do people object to my Meuh vote
Especially when you seemed perfectly fine with Meuh until today.
Like what happened to your read on GL?
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I've brought it up.
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This is a good idea.In post 1027, Dunnstral wrote: I'm alright with mass claiming. Luke should probably claim what they saw first to verify their role.-
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catboi already claimed vt d1.In post 1034, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote: I'm ok with this claim order - any objections
4. Dunnstral
5. RH9 catboi
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At least, Dunn is confirmed to be a PR now.In post 1047, Lukewarm wrote:
Oh, maybe I should have fully read before I responded lolIn post 1030, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
i think luke should claim last in case he catches someone in a lieIn post 1027, Dunnstral wrote: I'm alright with mass claiming. Luke should probably claim what they saw first to verify their role.-
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BTW, what do you make of Cakez's claim that he's a PR?-
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@Luke-
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TBH after Dunn claims, we should get Cakez to claim what PR he exactly is.-
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They could be a Beholder too.In post 1058, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote: if scum have a tracker they want to know what luke saw
In that they want to learn what Luke learnt.-
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P-edit: TBH Beholder is a rare enough role that if Dunn actually is it, I'm going to question if it's a trueclaim.-
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Because I'm seriously doubting Prism puts a Town Beholder in a micro with only two VTs.-
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Of course not.In post 1074, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
r u telling on yourself homieIn post 1073, RH9 wrote: Because I'm seriously doubting Prism puts a Town Beholder in a micro with only two VTs.
I was just checking if you remembered my VT claim.-
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That checks out, I guess?In post 1084, Dunnstral wrote: I'm a 1-shot doctor
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Cakez, do you still think Meuh is scum?-
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Cakez (I think?) was asking for plausible scum roles that would target Doc.In post 1094, Dunnstral wrote: I'm in co-op Baldur's gate, hence my terseness
I thought it strange that RH9 went straight to Beholder before I could claim my role
Beholder was one of them.-
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I said 2 VTs as a reaction test to see if scum would take the bait and treat it as a slip, which seemed to have happened.In post 1096, Dunnstral wrote: I do think 1073 is a weird perspective to have if you are a VT. I get that you will say that it slipped your mind but how?
I feel like it might've gotten a bit out of hand, though.-
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But I didn't forget Bell.In post 1098, Lukewarm wrote: Hey RH, if you are scum here, the believable answer would have been "oh, I forgot about Bell"
just like, for future reference or what ever-
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The more truthful answer would've been it was a slip of the tongue that I lied was a reaction test to save face.-
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Because I couldn't explain it.-
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Sorry.In post 1104, Lukewarm wrote:
yeah.In post 1102, RH9 wrote: The more truthful answer would've been it was a slip of the tongue that I lied was a reaction test to save face.
It was very clear that you were lying about it being a reaction test.
And if you are town, that puts us into a bad position, because the simple answer to seeing someone very obviously lying about something is that they are scum.-
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At the beginning of this day, I thought it was Cakez but with his claim, I'm starting to get why he went after Meuh.In post 1114, GuiltyLion wrote: RH9 who do you think is scum?
Because, honestly now it does feel a bit weird that there's no Cop but two Miller claims.
Feels like something doesn't add up. As it means assuming all claims are truthful, there's 4 VTs, 2 Named Townies (in that the Millers effectively serve as this without a Cop), a 2-shot Tracker, a 1-shot Doc and a 1-shot Roleblocker.
I'm thinking I need to re-evaluate the Miller claims rn.
Because those no longer feel as towny as they did before Cakez claimed. (Assuming Cakez is telling the truth.)
That said, I should probably UNVOTE: Cakez while I think about things.-
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So really, I think scum are in Pooky/Meuh/Cakez.-
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Though, Pooky/Meuh would be just hilarious.-
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BTW, my flavour is Prism's classmate Tom.-
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Though, would Prism actually use Millers as Named Townies?-
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The thing being if yes, then the PR claims are suspect.-
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So, it'd figure one of Dunn/Cakez/GL isn't telling the truth, then?In post 1142, Meuh wrote: One of my initial thoughts was that scum could have neapolitan, and that a miller would mess with their results rather than cop results, but that seems kinda silly? With no cop claim, I'm inclined to think they're just named townies at this point? No clue if this lines up with what Prism would do as a mod though
Because Luke had no way of faking a result on Dunn, given he claimed first.-
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I mean at least one of them isn't if you/Pooky are actual Millers.-
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So, you're saying scum is in VTs/Millers?
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And a Miller-
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As in after the massclaim?In post 1155, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote: also his approach is not as townie as the other two
Because, you could be right on this.
The way Cakez has interacted with claims does feel townier than Dunn's.
(Though, I could biased in that I feel like if all PR claims are town, that means Mafia's basically hoping Luke wastes his last track on the PR claims. And that'd have to mean scum are doing pretty well at not getting any attention.)-
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Or they're actually hoping Luke is going for the PR claims.-
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This is a good point.In post 1164, GuiltyLion wrote: I agree Luke's claim has to be town at this point because there's not enough town power otherwise
I'm thinking either
1) Cakez just trueclaimed his role as a scum RB
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2) Dunn is some kind of scum investigative that targeted Luke
what's extra wonk is that neither Cakez nor Dunn see any issue with eachother's claims
I think at least to Dunn's credit he is just coming off kind of obtuse whereas Cakez pivoted from "scum in the PRs" to just immediately accepting Dunn's claim - feels like he may be strategically positioning and not wanting to make an enemy out of Dunn
Dunn has been consistently been saying 'PRs are Town' (for reasons which I still don't agree with) but Cakez has only really been 'scum in RH9/GL' but he went from 'scum in Meuh/Dunn/Luke' to 'scum prob just Meuh' (given he seems to be TRing Pooky).
Eh. Maybe this really is a scum!Cakez world, after all.
Though, if Cakez is scum, then I'm stuck on who's his partner other than maybe the Miller claims.-
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And it's probably not Meuh.-
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This is towards GL, right?In post 1172, Dunnstral wrote: I don't think I am being obtuse. I don't think you have a good argument for why SirCakez is the mafia over one of the millers, or why SirCakez would true claim their role as mafia instead of claiming VT.-
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I think rn I'm at one of Cakez/GL is scum along with one of the Millers.
P-edit: Maybe it could be GL/Dunn.-
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Eh.
Now I think about it, Cakez only makes sense as scum with Pooky.-
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And I don't think Pooky is scum.-
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At least, Pooky has came across as genuinely concerned town quite a bit.-
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