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[davesaz]

Hi, feels like we can expect very few vanilla, maybe just one.

[davesaz]

I wonder if Abnegation's question implies a role that can detect ability use. I'm rusty on what roles might have that capability.

[davesaz]

Just a FYI, I'm going to attempt to question you the same way I would anyone else. I'm not always successful at that, but it usually goes very badly if I'm paying the team less attention than average.

[davesaz]

Pr wanting to look voteable.

[davesaz]

Anyone who knows me (Drew, Flavor as 2 examples) will know I can't fakeclaim to save my life. I'd probably go with VT. Town RB is pretty unusual unless there is a mafia role flipped that makes sense to block, so I would not do that. Unless you're aware of a change in role frequencies in the last 2 years where it's more fashionable now...

[davesaz]

E-1 is a different thing for sure. Turns out the claim nonsense died down on its own so I'll just ignore it for now.

[davesaz]

Someone, I think Nono?, posted a 12 hour vla which I almost slammed. I don't think the excuse game is hurting but be careful about letting it go too far.

[davesaz]

FL is dangerous to me but won't press you to off him if he's beneficial to the team's chances.
Actually leaving him might help wifom that scum!dave would fear him, but I can't be the one to bring that up. Don't know if anyone else in the game knows.

[davesaz]

Drew might know, and a couple of others seem to be alts of people I've played with.

[davesaz]

Just under 2 days. I'll be mobile or just back home from being out at deadline.

[davesaz]

Nice, we got a lim without needing to do much in the way of driving, and it generated a bunch of suspicion for tomorrow on other people.

Any strong cop vibes? Need to decide who to RB and who to kill.

[davesaz]

Oh good, I was beginning to sweat a bit over having to solo some preliminary orders.
Flavor is always good to consider, if he is a PR he's likely to use it well.
He would fakeclaim to draw action, so if town is weak it could be a wasted block. Though that can be WIFOMd to death.

Whomever mentioned multitasking could be a town RB or be able to detect actions. I want to say Abnegation?
If it's symmetrical there could be a town informed and maybe also someone else has block or detect, so maybe don't flip that slot early unless it falls in our laps.

I'll have to do some isos after work, will let you know if anything else comes to mind.

[davesaz]

Just in case mod wants to hear from each of us separately,

confirm 44

as current orders. Will let you know if anything changes.

[davesaz]

agree, I'd like to be able to say it started and ended before I got a chance to take a break from work

[davesaz]

Flavor says he's vanilla then says he has a guilty, then says he softed it. Probably trying to confuse scum into not realizing nono's post was a guilty.
This elongated twilight is killing us.

[davesaz]

The main thing to be concerned about is if there is a doc making the most obvious Gera kill not go through.
In that case we're exposed to Gera getting a track though since you're the obv track choice it would just be redundant info.
Flavor being a doc and choosing not to counter Kitty could be the reason he suspects you and is calling it a guilty, and it could be the reason he was so confident sounding.

An alternative plan might be I block Gera and you kill Flavor and still rolecop Drew. That leaves the 50:50 with Nono tomorrow as long as Nono doesn't cop me.
It seems like fewer ways to lose immediately that way. I don't see a doc choosing Flavor over Gera given the hard claim.

[davesaz]

yeah maybe that is too townsided

[davesaz]

then again, maybe there is a doc

[davesaz]

Abnegation claimed VT and targeted by geraintm. Is there a role that knows who targets it?

[davesaz]

I don't know how both of those can be true btw.

[davesaz]

Look at FL and Ame falling over each other to fakeclaim. They really do think they're fadeing scum.

[davesaz]

Something to consider, maybe Klaz would fakeclaim miller as doc, as it's a dandy way to try to prevent being nk'd.
gera's target is probably vanilla as it was a no-track unless he tracked them to himself and lied about it as protection.
Actually that makes Ame more probably doc than not.

[davesaz]

Klaz is from way back and I don't know if the meta back then was to avoid claiming miller unless a cop is present, to not tip off scum about the possibility.

[davesaz]

You get to watch the hood, unless they go radio silent. Be sure to take the time to paraphrase anything already said that might be important, along with what they do say if anything even if it's attempted misinformation.

[davesaz]

I think we settled on this, please change if needed.

davesaz roleblocks gera
Hu rolecops Klazam
Hu kills Ame

Received.

[davesaz]

block gera
kill camel

If multitasking is no longer available then

kill gera

[davesaz]

block gera
kill Abnegation

Gonna use this as a note taking device since it's here.
A no-elim gives an interesting choice. Kill gera or flavor next?

Can this be spun that maybe gera as scum bussed Kitty to try to get lock towned and is a multitasking loud visitor scum?
Or spin as Flavor still being alive means he's scum?

Backup plan, continue to reinforce narrative that scum Klaz claimed miller before it was known that Nono would not recover.

Received

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[davesaz]

kill gera

[davesaz]

I'm ok to release thread.