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Post Post #3 (isolation #0) » Sun Sep 24, 2023 12:17 pm

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It’s only a 9p. 2 is pretty standard.

7-2, misfade 1, kill 1, 5-2, misfade and kill, 3-2.

In a perfect world, we end on Day 3.

I’ll try to cause a couple claims to come out this day phase, probably don’t have much town power, but wanna get someone who could get a guilty out of the way.
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Post Post #5 (isolation #1) » Sun Sep 24, 2023 12:52 pm

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Oh, nice.

Haha, I saw this before I saw that. We got this.

Probably just going to try and find reasons to town read you. Going through a couple days shouldn’t be too hard. Just gotta avoid a guilty.
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Post Post #7 (isolation #2) » Tue Sep 26, 2023 1:03 pm

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Damn, every single thing I'm saying is true in this argument with Ghandi, lol
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Post Post #8 (isolation #3) » Tue Sep 26, 2023 1:14 pm

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town unable to read logic is sometimes a blind spot for me.

i'm just always going to have reasons for everything I do as scum, and most of the time as town.
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Post Post #11 (isolation #4) » Tue Sep 26, 2023 4:11 pm

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Yeah, i think we just go for a couple claims, and move from there.
W
ell if it’s best for the game to move forward

E
veryone can agree,

A
t least Holdsteady came across townie. I was already lean town based on the RN thing, but I think scum would take advantage of the situation

K
nowing that Bugs and Nuclear likely aren’t partners, and that Nuclear stayed on bugs, I definitely wanna cross them off as a potential pairing

F
uck, though, still annoying that that’s what got that started, the entire thing was me saying they likely weren’t partnered, that’s just so much if they were

N
ow I’ll take a little break, and let people come in, i guess
I hope this crumb isn’t too obvious, lol
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Post Post #13 (isolation #5) » Tue Sep 26, 2023 6:58 pm

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Yeah, planning to claim Novice Weak FN, either a fail on someone, on a kill, or on you, depending on the situation when we get there.

On day 3.
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Post Post #15 (isolation #6) » Wed Sep 27, 2023 1:54 pm

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Yeah, I would probably make it 1 shot.

I’ll try to twist a town read on you overtime; but it’s gotta come natural, I think
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Post Post #17 (isolation #7) » Thu Sep 28, 2023 11:54 am

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Holdsteady is another right for wrong reasons.

I do that thing they’re talking to me about in just about every town game of mine.
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Post Post #18 (isolation #8) » Thu Sep 28, 2023 12:29 pm

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Ugh, why Enchant?

All they do is be negative and goes personal towards me.

We should probs get a real claim by them or just fade them.
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Post Post #20 (isolation #9) » Thu Sep 28, 2023 6:48 pm

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do what you feel is natural, dont need to go Enchant today. i was a bit overheated when it was both of them, but it'll calm down.

i think we just make pushes and we should be good.
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Post Post #22 (isolation #10) » Fri Sep 29, 2023 8:49 pm

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Needs 2 more, I think.

I think we can setup Kitty or Skellen tomorrow after an Enchant flip.

Holdsteady could be a decent kill, but they’re also misfade able.

Enchant going is probs for the best. I wanted to take away my blacklist comment, since I was in a heated spot, and it feels like it’s happening all the time with Enchant, but I’ll do that post game.

But Enchant got unlucky they replaced into a slot that was already setup decently to go down.
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Post Post #26 (isolation #11) » Sat Sep 30, 2023 9:33 am

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probs not
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Post Post #28 (isolation #12) » Mon Oct 02, 2023 2:27 pm

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Yeah, feels bad, but it’s part of the game.

I think when they die, they’ll be like “oh scum was arguing with me”
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Post Post #30 (isolation #13) » Thu Oct 05, 2023 5:56 am

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Flavor Leaf kills Kop.


What do you think?

Enchant or Holdsteady is my other thought for a kill.
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Post Post #32 (isolation #14) » Thu Oct 05, 2023 10:47 am

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Hm. Doctor flip. That’s good. Does that change anything for us?

I feel Enchant or Holdsteady as investigative is most likely to check one of us, so might warrant one of them, but Kop death opens up Holdsteady more.
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Post Post #33 (isolation #15) » Thu Oct 05, 2023 10:48 am

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Holdsteady kill could look like someone trying to frame.
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Post Post #36 (isolation #16) » Fri Oct 06, 2023 10:25 am

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I think I might be leaning wanting to kill Holdsteady, which could make it look like scum wants to fade on the Holdsteady wagon.

It also opens up slots like RN pretty easily and even Kop a little (probs won’t go for Kop) based on TMI.

Holdsteady is someone against us too, so it kills a threat.

Only main issue is the worry they end up piling on one of us, but I think we’re in an okay enough slot to twist it in our direction.

I’m open for most plays we have at our disposal right now.
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Post Post #38 (isolation #17) » Fri Oct 06, 2023 11:32 am

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Sounds good.

Night 1 Action
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Leaning this more than Kop at the moment. Just to fully switch the game around.

Probably can make this lean towards a RN push.
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Post Post #42 (isolation #18) » Sat Oct 07, 2023 9:22 am

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Alright, Enchant no guilty.
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Post Post #43 (isolation #19) » Sat Oct 07, 2023 2:16 pm

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Remember, if we get through today, with a successful night kill, we only need One vote to instant win.

So it doesn’t matter if we get scum read by someone, just takes one player to town read you/me.

The fact RN didn’t push me when I pushed them is a good sign for us here.

And i think if Kitty town reads me today, then it’s a good idea to kill there and then i claim my weak fn.
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Post Post #45 (isolation #20) » Sat Oct 07, 2023 4:33 pm

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Yeah, probably.

You could shut down the mass claim today, which would give it a lot of weight.
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Post Post #46 (isolation #21) » Sat Oct 07, 2023 4:34 pm

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We should probably lean to take out RN/Enchant today, and then the other tomorrow.

Kop looks really bad with RN/Enchant being T/T and would set a 1v1 with Kop and the leftover tomorrow probably.
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Post Post #47 (isolation #22) » Sat Oct 07, 2023 4:40 pm

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The quicker the better to not let Kitty in this day as much as possible :lol:
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Post Post #50 (isolation #23) » Sat Oct 07, 2023 5:33 pm

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In post 49, Nautical Dawn wrote:
In post 47, Flavor Leaf wrote: The quicker the better to not let Kitty in this day as much as possible :lol:
Wait, so is the plan to kill Kitty and then say you FN'd Kitty N1?
Yeah. If that doesn’t sound good, keep them alive, act like I weak Friendly’d them, and then get confused as to why it didn’t go through, and then imply a roleblocker.

I think if Enchant gets E-1, we just quick fade this game. E-2 with my vote.
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Post Post #52 (isolation #24) » Sat Oct 07, 2023 5:44 pm

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Either works. Hammer could be more suspicious, but putting E-1 might scare off Kitty.
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Post Post #53 (isolation #25) » Sat Oct 07, 2023 5:44 pm

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So pros and cons to both
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Post Post #56 (isolation #26) » Sat Oct 07, 2023 5:54 pm

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That’s fair.

Guilties aren’t too bad tomorrow, though, you can fight since it’s ELO.

And my role naturally allows me to help you.

Enchant is technically not wrong in their case, but they didn’t let me do it long enough.

Their case can’t be taken seriously because it’s only been one page since day started.

But i noticed when i was posting that i was just mindspilling, which was kind of my point.

So i think they’re right in that I was doing it, and that I am scum, but i was actively doing it on purpose to try to mimic my townie ness.

But they are correct.

I think we have a solid defense barrier, though.


Also, everyone except Skellen checked in, so unless Skellen has a guilty, we’re fine.
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Post Post #58 (isolation #27) » Sat Oct 07, 2023 7:12 pm

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One of Enchant’s biggest issues with pushing is that he isn’t trying to convince the town that I’m scum, he’s pushing me like he’s trying to get me to admit I’m scum.

I play by a “idgaf if you scum read me, what you gonna do bout it?” Mentality, and I’m genuine with that. I wanna see what they’re gonna do.

But they don’t build up and make the connection with other players. That’s key.
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Post Post #59 (isolation #28) » Sat Oct 07, 2023 8:21 pm

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Maybe you can jump on Enchant with a “if they flip town, can reassess Flavor” kinda thing.

Tomorrow, if we do not bus, all 3 townies have to vote the same to kill, so even if i get a vote or one, i just need one townie on my side or one townie on your side, and one mistake ends it.

I will say, we are somewhat tied together, so if one of us go down, it could flip for us, but i think i look like scum possibly with Skellen or Kop too.

(Or if i go down today, Kitty’s the obvious slot to get a free misfade)
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Post Post #64 (isolation #29) » Sun Oct 08, 2023 9:07 am

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In post 62, Nautical Dawn wrote: Well, no unvote, and Kitty claims to be sheeping you, so things are looking pretty good.
Yeah, i woke up to seeing that. Plan is working.

Nerve wracking, but working.

I wonder if Enchant follows through.
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Post Post #67 (isolation #30) » Sun Oct 08, 2023 10:54 am

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Enchant said i only win this one because they’ll continue sheeping me…

That’s…thats the game. Convince people you are town.

It doesn’t matter if one person scum reads you, you need to be able to convince a group of townies that is the case.

There is a case out there on me, but I will admit, it probably does feel incredibly difficult to truly push me here.

But they chose the wrong time to strike, and imo, they needed to solve for who my partner would be more than solve for me to take us down.

The Holdsteady kill in addition to both of us pairing up and being relatively town read by the rest of the game, they had to come for a team, not just me solo.

Question my Kitty read more, question why ND and I are pairing up the way we are.

I’m not saying it’s easy, but other than stating that’s what the read is, you gotta be able to duke it out.

They came after me, but folded when i can take a hit, and come back.

It was also rough because they didn’t have the trust built up after the Bugspray wagon.

It was a hard situation for Enchant, though, definitely they were trying to fight an uphill battle.


Kop and RN not being here right now is actually super good for us and we can push it like an “inconspicuous in their absence” kind of deal.

In a larger game, Enchant path might have worked better, but micro game with this amount of players left, you have to get real close and intimate with everyone and be aware of all the social threads going around.
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Post Post #70 (isolation #31) » Sun Oct 08, 2023 11:32 am

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In post 68, Nautical Dawn wrote: Seven minutes past their timer, and no hammer...
I'm starting to get a little concerned.
It’s fine. They don’t look good in this scenario.

I also know RN hates self votes/self vote threatens, so while I’m a little nervous RN teams up with Enchant, we have a defense that they’re teaming up to survive.

Kop and RN not being here is really good for us.

Skellen, I see just voting Enchant if Enchant doesn’t hammer.

To get one of us, 4 of the 5 townies have to be on us, and Kitty/Skellen just aren’t going to right now.
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Post Post #71 (isolation #32) » Sun Oct 08, 2023 11:34 am

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In post 69, Nautical Dawn wrote: I'm surprised no one's questioned us pairing up like this.
It looks too obvious and more like if one of us are scum, the other got pocketed.

Plus, Kitty looks more like my obv partner right now, but that’s really the one that’s too obv and pocketing.

I think it’s a testament to your play too, though. You can explain everything well, so it comes off townie.
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Post Post #74 (isolation #33) » Sun Oct 08, 2023 11:38 am

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There’s warrant in us voting first tomorrow because normally scum wait, but we’ll have to see how it goes.

I’m not opposed if we can switch off Enchant today and just get them tomorrow.
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Post Post #75 (isolation #34) » Sun Oct 08, 2023 11:39 am

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Enchant living until tomorrow is an easy win because I get to push that it looked like they were rolefishing me, and that’s why they pushed me hoping it would come out.
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Post Post #77 (isolation #35) » Sun Oct 08, 2023 10:20 pm

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i think we're fine tomorrow.

if there's a guilty out there on one of us, we can just challenge it.need one of them to misvote.
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Post Post #79 (isolation #36) » Mon Oct 09, 2023 1:10 pm

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Every living player in this game was on exactly 1 scum wagon.

So we can push that Bugspray felt more scum motivated than Enchant wagon.

Kop/RN both looked like they were sitting back waiting for Enchant/FL to solve itself.

Night 2
Flavor Kills Kitty.
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Post Post #83 (isolation #37) » Wed Oct 11, 2023 12:51 pm

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RN happened to claim Lazy RB and target Skellen, the only VT who was claimed. That can probs be twisted to looking like a scum fake claim.

He also was trying to mass claim yesterday as a PR.

Trick is gonna be making it look like RN vs Kop.

We win automatically with a fade luckily.
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Post Post #84 (isolation #38) » Wed Oct 11, 2023 12:52 pm

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He had the weird BP post too earlier
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Post Post #85 (isolation #39) » Wed Oct 11, 2023 1:41 pm

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RN gut reading Skellen is actually a decent wincon for us.
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Post Post #87 (isolation #40) » Wed Oct 11, 2023 4:12 pm

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I think you could vote or wait to hammer, either works.

If you vote, it won’t look like scum waiting to quick hammer.

But it also could stall the game waiting on Kop/Skellen.

I think we got this on lock, just keep doing what we’ve been doing.
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Post Post #89 (isolation #41) » Wed Oct 11, 2023 4:37 pm

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Yeah, that works perfectly
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Post Post #90 (isolation #42) » Wed Oct 11, 2023 4:38 pm

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Good stuff. This was super clean.
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Post Post #93 (isolation #43) » Wed Oct 11, 2023 4:56 pm

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In post 91, Nautical Dawn wrote: I bet Enchant is rolling in his grave.
Enchant self destructed knowing the situation they were in and that everybody would believe my claim.

The biggest issue is, I setup this PR claim from Day 1 pretty well, so it looks and feels very sound.

They needed to find us as a team, but they self destructed.

Doesn’t matter if townies know you are scum. I can wink at them. They gotta convince the rest of the town.

Enchant was correct a lot of times going up against me. Props for that
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Post Post #94 (isolation #44) » Wed Oct 11, 2023 4:57 pm

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So was Holdsteady on me at times.

But scum kill off threats. :lol:
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Post Post #96 (isolation #45) » Wed Oct 11, 2023 7:42 pm

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okay, ill keep checking in for a little too.
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Post Post #97 (isolation #46) » Wed Oct 11, 2023 7:56 pm

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ah man. that Kop post feels rough. i feel bad, lol.

open wolfed, teamed up in game thread with each other, only pushed townies this game

but the claim setup made a brick wall defense.

both of them think Skellen is scum.
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Post Post #99 (isolation #47) » Wed Oct 11, 2023 9:18 pm

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damn, 25 minutes too late.
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Post Post #102 (isolation #48) » Thu Oct 12, 2023 5:39 am

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Alright I’m here.
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Post Post #103 (isolation #49) » Thu Oct 12, 2023 5:40 am

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I’ll be checking in here and there
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Post Post #105 (isolation #50) » Thu Oct 12, 2023 5:48 am

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Yep.
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Post Post #107 (isolation #51) » Thu Oct 12, 2023 5:50 am

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All good. Message in here first probs still.
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Post Post #109 (isolation #52) » Thu Oct 12, 2023 5:51 am

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Yep
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Post Post #110 (isolation #53) » Thu Oct 12, 2023 5:51 am

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Go ahead and vote
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Post Post #112 (isolation #54) » Thu Oct 12, 2023 5:52 am

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Clean
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Post Post #114 (isolation #55) » Thu Oct 12, 2023 5:54 am

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Aisa was lurking lol
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Post Post #117 (isolation #56) » Thu Oct 12, 2023 6:17 am

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no redacts

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