DragonEater70's Micro Normal review, November 2023

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hi sorry this thread got buried

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can u just make the tracker lazy and its probably fine?

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tracker in micros are incredibly strong and swingy in a way that makes it almost impossible for scum to recover off a day 1 scum death

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wait no lazy isn't a simple modifier

wtf lmao

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i did not even catch lazy being excluded from simple, this complicates things

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wait no lazy isn't a simple modifier

wtf lmao

what about a jailkeeper instead of a tracker?

same problem xd

[DkKoba]

ok how about this:

Novice Tracker
Odd Night Neapolitan

reintroduce the roleblocker

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oh we axed the neap

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Mafia Roleblocker
Mafia Goon

Town 1-Shot BP
Town Novice Tracker
Town Odd-Night Neapolitan
VT x4


probably a bad setup tbh

alternatively:

Mafia Goon x2

Town 1-Shot BP
Town Even Night Tracker
VT x5

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wait no lazy isn't a simple modifier

wtf lmao

I do not think tracker as a role needs nerfing. BP + full tracker vs goons has about 40% town winrate

as an open

, statistically.

I would strongly advise you do not pass a more scumsided version of that, frankly, especially for a game we are advertising as suitable for new players, although I am not a reviewer here.

And it's also swingy in the wrong way, I'm more concerned about swing

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It's almost certain that mafia will lose off a day 1 elimination, essentially, which would just lead to an incredibly frustrating experience.

(Tracker just isn't a great 9p role imo for this reason)

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Like if mafia get eliminated d1 and get tracked n1 and also don't kill the tracker, in the nicest way possible that is kind of their problem?

Moreso suddenly you have PoE slots getting cleared

Snowball effect etc.

Guess just my own personal philosophy not to allow snowball mechanics that kick an alignment while they're down

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I expect a town stomp if they get mafia d1 in an ungated tracker 9p with just 1 poe clear off the track but eh

yes mafia is expected to CC a pr in a 9p tho, that is true. Im of the belief that 9p = ccing pr is necessary

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It goes against my soul of mafia design philosophy but theres no tools to alleviate it in simple so just hope mafia knows to claim a PR here and not in a silly way

/pass 2 goons 1 tracker 1 bp

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EV is not a good metric for balance

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It's a start but completely ignores reality of how roles interact and how players use those roles