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Post Post #1225 (ISO) » Thu Nov 30, 2023 11:37 am

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Like, at the end of the day I am just not willing to leave someone alive forever who only claims that ability after getting a hit called on them.
If Roden had very strong reasons to be town otherwise then it might be different, but on paper it's the opposite (before we analyze the semi-wifom of whether or not scum is likely to actually want to look that bad on paper)
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Post Post #1226 (ISO) » Thu Nov 30, 2023 11:37 am

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Naerys->Roden->Looker->Drew

Is probably the path i would go on.
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Post Post #1227 (ISO) » Thu Nov 30, 2023 11:38 am

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And maybe there’s something to it that I saw Roden as scum, and then they talk to me, and i stop seeing them as scum.

That might be scum indicative of Roden.

But if so, they’ve been playing a game to get me to town read them, and it worked.
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Post Post #1228 (ISO) » Thu Nov 30, 2023 11:39 am

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They would do that either alignment, though. Roden has strong logic as scum.

Their early game is wild, though if scum, idk if they play it that way.
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Post Post #1229 (ISO) » Thu Nov 30, 2023 11:41 am

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You are an evil man. I am just a vanilla that has put trust into you, FL
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Post Post #1230 (ISO) » Thu Nov 30, 2023 11:47 am

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What do you think about Vander, flavor?
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Post Post #1231 (ISO) » Thu Nov 30, 2023 11:49 am

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In post 1230, Naerys wrote: What do you think about Vander, flavor?

That they’re probably correct with Roden.

VOTE: Roden
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Post Post #1232 (ISO) » Thu Nov 30, 2023 11:59 am

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In post 1231, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 1230, Naerys wrote: What do you think about Vander, flavor?

That they’re probably correct with Roden.

VOTE: Roden
If it is Roden, I expect a extra gold star from you Flavored lol.
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Post Post #1233 (ISO) » Thu Nov 30, 2023 12:28 pm

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I'm going to look over D1 and D2 tonight
I'll give you a moment to let that sink in
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Post Post #1234 (ISO) » Thu Nov 30, 2023 12:36 pm

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It's never FL, it's never Drew. I want one more "never" at least as I read
I'll give you a moment to let that sink in
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Post Post #1235 (ISO) » Thu Nov 30, 2023 12:47 pm

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In post 1232, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 1231, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 1230, Naerys wrote: What do you think about Vander, flavor?

That they’re probably correct with Roden.

VOTE: Roden
If it is Roden, I expect a extra gold star from you Flavored lol.
Hey, I've been pushing Roden in and out just as much as I've been pushing you too, I see it haha
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Post Post #1236 (ISO) » Thu Nov 30, 2023 1:31 pm

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Why is Naerys the vote of choice here?
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Post Post #1237 (ISO) » Thu Nov 30, 2023 1:33 pm

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In post 1236, Gamma Emerald wrote: Why is Naerys the vote of choice here?
If Looker, Roden, and Drew are all town, who else would it be?

I also remember their post coming after me earlier was very defending of Yessiree.
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Post Post #1238 (ISO) » Thu Nov 30, 2023 1:34 pm

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I am on board with Roden, though. I don't see a world where they don't get misfaded eventually, and I think I need to see the flip to clear up some things anyways.

The fact I keep scum reading Roden, only to start town reading them after they talk with me, is a sign of RodenScum imo.
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Post Post #1239 (ISO) » Thu Nov 30, 2023 2:18 pm

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In post 1234, ActionDan wrote: It's never FL, it's never Drew. I want one more "never" at least as I read
Why do you think it's never Drew?
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Post Post #1240 (ISO) » Thu Nov 30, 2023 2:21 pm

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In post 1237, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 1236, Gamma Emerald wrote: Why is Naerys the vote of choice here?
If Looker, Roden, and Drew are all town, who else would it be?

I also remember their post coming after me earlier was very defending of Yessiree.
Both flipped scum tried to flash wagon Naerys, and if she's scum then they literally tried to sacrifice their Treestump kill.
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Post Post #1241 (ISO) » Thu Nov 30, 2023 2:28 pm

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i town read roden everytime they talk.

I think it's Drew again
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Post Post #1242 (ISO) » Thu Nov 30, 2023 2:30 pm

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Dan thinks it's never Drew because of mech power, which I understand. Yeah, 3 town PR's is all there is, and that's only if Looker and Drew are both town. If one of them are scum, then that's even less.

Roden is actively taking out possible misfades and doesnt make sense to cut out Naerys.

@Roden - do you think it's possible they were trying to distance from Naerys?
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Post Post #1243 (ISO) » Thu Nov 30, 2023 2:37 pm

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I think Drew is efforting too much to be scum. Like he knows he can't escape the PoE, his elim is inevitable if he's scum, so typing up walls to argue with you Leaf is pointless.
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Post Post #1244 (ISO) » Thu Nov 30, 2023 2:39 pm

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In post 1241, Flavor Leaf wrote: i town read roden everytime they talk.

I think it's Drew again
Oh ffs, just Lim me at this point, I can't repeatedly argue my points on deaf ears anymore.
In post 1243, Roden wrote: I think Drew is efforting too much to be scum. Like he knows he can't escape the PoE, his elim is inevitable if he's scum, so typing up walls to argue with you Leaf is pointless.
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Post Post #1245 (ISO) » Thu Nov 30, 2023 2:40 pm

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I am this close to voting Flavor just on principle here
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Post Post #1246 (ISO) » Thu Nov 30, 2023 2:46 pm

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Y'all need to stop.

There is absolutely no reason why I shouldn't expect either of you two be able to pull this as scum, full stop.

There are legitimate cases why it could, and I have ran through people with more town reasonings than both of you have to get to the eventual scum before, ie CamelCasedSnivy in the game where Python was SK, Drew.

I have been going left and right looking through the both of you, Naerys, and Looker, and I have lead pushes on 2 scum this game.


I also don't understand why we're acting like it's impossible to win for scum within you 2, so why effort? because there is a chance.

There's 4 main candidates who could be faded, Naerys, Looker, Roden, Drew. Yes, scum probably have to get all 3 to win, but if there's another way to get a kill, that's all that's necessary, so there is a win path. And that's if you don't consider possibilities of the game turning on me, AD, or Vander, which I also don't think is impossible.

But y'all need to stop with this. I'm voting, and going back and forth, and the fact I'm willing to go back and forth on these reads, and listening to what people are saying on these slots, because I assure you, I'm reading every single thing multiple times, looking at the tone and tactic possibilities of it.

You two are literally the FRONT RUNNERS for being scum, and it's not even just me that's thinking that. Vanderscamp is literally voting Roden right now.

Drew has an easier winpath than Roden imo, so I also don't love that statement by Roden.
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Post Post #1247 (ISO) » Thu Nov 30, 2023 2:47 pm

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In post 1242, Flavor Leaf wrote: Dan thinks it's never Drew because of mech power, which I understand. Yeah, 3 town PR's is all there is, and that's only if Looker and Drew are both town. If one of them are scum, then that's even less.

Roden is actively taking out possible misfades and doesnt make sense to cut out Naerys.

@Roden - do you think it's possible they were trying to distance from Naerys?
It's possible, but Yess was definitely trying to survive, and Elements was a deep wolf and had me pocketed. Their play and the game state makes me think it wasn't distancing.
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Post Post #1248 (ISO) » Thu Nov 30, 2023 2:49 pm

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In post 1244, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 1241, Flavor Leaf wrote: i town read roden everytime they talk.

I think it's Drew again
Oh ffs, just Lim me at this point, I can't repeatedly argue my points on deaf ears anymore.
In post 1243, Roden wrote: I think Drew is efforting too much to be scum. Like he knows he can't escape the PoE, his elim is inevitable if he's scum, so typing up walls to argue with you Leaf is pointless.
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In post 1245, Doctor Drew wrote: I am this close to voting Flavor just on principle here
Like this is just scummy here.

I'm actively pushing and voting Roden.

This is pure AtE and conditional responsing when I don't agree with Drew's defenses.

The case is there, and I've acknowledged the mech reasoning why you could be town. You also know that I don't always agree with mech.

I'm having a near perfect town game imo, and now you're acting like I've been dragging this game down when I'm sitting here giving all options a lookover and possibilities.

Don't even know where you're leaning read wise, so if you wanna be real, you need to do more work on looking for scum rather than defending yourself here. That is something Roden has over you here.
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Post Post #1249 (ISO) » Thu Nov 30, 2023 2:51 pm

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In post 1247, Roden wrote:
In post 1242, Flavor Leaf wrote: Dan thinks it's never Drew because of mech power, which I understand. Yeah, 3 town PR's is all there is, and that's only if Looker and Drew are both town. If one of them are scum, then that's even less.

Roden is actively taking out possible misfades and doesnt make sense to cut out Naerys.

@Roden - do you think it's possible they were trying to distance from Naerys?
It's possible, but Yess was definitely trying to survive, and Elements was a deep wolf and had me pocketed. Their play and the game state makes me think it wasn't distancing.
I think that's fair. I don't know if it's a never scum interaction, but it's a good reasoning.

These are things that I'm looking for from the 2 of you specifically, and I'm actively trying to elicit responses from you to with my pushes along with a possible scum in Naerys/Looker.

The fact you both want to look at this at a surface level is not a good look.
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