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Post Post #1600 (ISO) » Sat Feb 17, 2024 10:22 am

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In post 1599, DeasVail wrote: ^just more on that. The hammer on T3 was because I didn't want him talking about how implosion was cleared because I hard-disagreed, but I also didn't want to talk about how I thought it was implosion if not T3 because I didn't want to die. But then I also thought I would be cleared after the fire flip, so that's on me.
oop, this is referring to my earlier post rather than Klick's
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Post Post #1601 (ISO) » Sat Feb 17, 2024 10:32 am

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In post 1599, DeasVail wrote: ^just more on that. The hammer on T3 was because I didn't want him talking about how implosion was cleared because I hard-disagreed, but I also didn't want to talk about how I thought it was implosion if not T3 because I didn't want to die. But then I also thought I would be cleared after the fire flip, so that's on me.
I thought you were objectively the best kill after fire flipped, EXCEPT if implosion was scum and knew I'd push him, which is exactly what happened.

But yeah you were pretty cleared so yeah.
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Post Post #1602 (ISO) » Sat Feb 17, 2024 10:46 am

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gg
well played, implo!
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Post Post #1603 (ISO) » Sat Feb 17, 2024 10:50 am

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in hindsight, i should've connected dragon's kill to implo.
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Post Post #1604 (ISO) » Sat Feb 17, 2024 12:54 pm

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GG.
In post 1598, Klick wrote: The main piece of evidence I felt was compelling for DV-town was Kyouko's investment in getting into the coalition at the times she was going for it. I feel like implosion became much more likely scum when Kyouko was the partner because it explained the sense of urgency
On the last day I was sort of loath to actually talk about this at all because like, everything is spinnable of course but golly gosh did I think that d1 was gonna look bad. kyouko did what she needed to remarkably well, and I'm happy with the fact that I decided at the time that my best course of action was to outwardly give up, because it did give me at least a little bit of an out later on of "but why would I have given up and accepted this all town coalition" even if I never appealed to it directly. I think the normal way that I look at this setup is that the coalition phase is usually-but-not-always doomed to fail and town should try to make it work but also not *necessarily* sweat the details, and this game highlights how small changes and individual plays and reactions can have outsized influence.

This game was in many ways a painful grind; we weren't "supposed" to get out of the coalition phase, but once we did there was enough going on in the game that we could hide from it for a bit, but ultimately we had to shoot gob (which I think I'm quite glad we did even if it zapped appearance out of the lim pool) and then dragon was just kind of, there and liable to crack the scumteam open at any moment, and various other dynamics like Klick and DV trusting each other in the way they did made it a pretty narrow path.

And yeah, the flavor...yeah.......
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Post Post #1605 (ISO) » Sat Feb 17, 2024 1:06 pm

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In post 1604, implosion wrote:And yeah, the flavor...yeah.......
What? You mean to tell me that you never imagined in 2011 that in 2024 you'd be playing in a Pizza Kids theme game where you're fighting for your life against a
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Post Post #1606 (ISO) » Sat Feb 17, 2024 1:06 pm

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Life can be so predictable sometimes, honestly.
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Post Post #1607 (ISO) » Sat Feb 17, 2024 1:08 pm

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I don't think I played particularly well on the whole. I do think I had a couple of moments of making a right decision, but I think I was never really able to get into a groove in this game from a combination of getting caught early by dragon, and being a little irked at rolling scum in this setup twice in a row, and RL reasons. I frankly think kyouko and fire both played significantly better than me, of course I'm the one alive at the end because I was the one outside coalition, but I really think fire in particular is a stellar scum player. I genuinely do not have any idea how to read them consistently. I think fire was up against a situation d2 that was sort of insurmountable, but they still managed to sow pretty significant doubts and essentially buy me the T3 lim the next day.
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Post Post #1608 (ISO) » Sat Feb 17, 2024 1:10 pm

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In post 1605, Prism wrote:
In post 1604, implosion wrote:And yeah, the flavor...yeah.......
What? You mean to tell me that you never imagined in 2011 that in 2024 you'd be playing in a Pizza Kids theme game where you're fighting for your life against a
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I mean the main thing is I could just never be sure if this is something you did to everyone, or just me x_X

perhaps even with the evidence i now see laid out before my eyes, i still will never be sure
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Post Post #1609 (ISO) » Sat Feb 17, 2024 1:18 pm

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I will always have special little plans for you, my lasagna-loving friend.

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Post Post #1610 (ISO) » Sat Feb 17, 2024 1:22 pm

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I commented to fferyllt about how interesting it was seeing fireisredsir usually having the right strategic vision, but lacking the fundamentals needed to actually execute on it. It's an example where I think fire would have really benefited from the real-time chat crucible formats, where those skills are built way before you move onto the more complex things.

I was most impressed this game, though, when fire
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which posts weren't correct before anyone else pointed them out. Overall, this wasn't fire's strongest game, but the choice to stay passive and let the elim go through without trying to set any deeper traps turned out okay.
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Post Post #1611 (ISO) » Sat Feb 17, 2024 3:03 pm

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sheesh my reaads are good
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Post Post #1612 (ISO) » Sat Feb 17, 2024 4:53 pm

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Looks like I'm flying the anime anarchist banner for the next week!
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Post Post #1613 (ISO) » Sat Feb 17, 2024 4:59 pm

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i've decided to quote in my sig.
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Post Post #1614 (ISO) » Sat Feb 17, 2024 7:38 pm

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In post 1610, Prism wrote: I was most impressed this game, though, when fire
instantly knew
which posts weren't correct before anyone else pointed them out. Overall, this wasn't fire's strongest game, but the choice to stay passive and let the elim go through without trying to set any deeper traps turned out okay.
What does this refer to? I'm confused.
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Post Post #1615 (ISO) » Sun Feb 18, 2024 12:44 am

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In post 50, fireisredsir wrote: 988 was a pretty bad post i think
This was a post I immediately pointed out to fferyllt as being wrong. Page 41 was also rough and a missed opportunity.

If I recall correctly fire actually did try to set one deeper trap with his later elim trying to frame Appearance but again did not have the ability to get the tone right to carry it out.
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Post Post #1616 (ISO) » Sat Feb 24, 2024 6:27 am

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In post 1586, DragonEater70 wrote: Hey I get to choose Prism's avatar
gob's time expires tonight. What's the next three days of my sentence?
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Post Post #1617 (ISO) » Sat Feb 24, 2024 6:56 am

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I'll think of something in the morning
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Post Post #1618 (ISO) » Sat Feb 24, 2024 9:13 pm

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In post 1616, Prism wrote:
In post 1586, DragonEater70 wrote: Hey I get to choose Prism's avatar
gob's time expires tonight. What's the next three days of my sentence?
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Post Post #1619 (ISO) » Sun Feb 25, 2024 4:26 am

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Having shed my former anime anarchist loyalties, I set out in search of a new purpose and sense of belonging. And so I joined the Dragon cult...
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